WT215s 5kW stadium with coco.. come help!

[whatthe215]

thanks supernuck!

raphenilweed, i was thinking about the idea of using flooding to water a stadium like this... but the extra humidity would be a big con later in flower unless you've got big dehueys.

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tried my hand at making oil again tonight.. seems to be going better than normal so far. i picked up a big glass tube and some vector7 vs. what i used to use... PVC and power 5.

after the scrape

after 30min of vac purging with the POS harbor freight 3cfm and a mason jar. i think it's around 3.5g when i first put it under vac it filled the whole jar, i hadta scramble to turn the thing off.

i had it running for another hour in ~115f water and some level of hg, now i've got a little test in there... tried whipping a gram or so of the unpurged a bunch.

 

[supernuck]

That looks pretty tasty, what was the source material? I haven't had bho/bubble etc since I shut down 5 years ago, super excited to start making my own concentrates again this summer

 

[DHF]

Your rectangular stadium with angled corners and plants on all sides is one my models for up and comin dialed setups Bro.....

The MAIN reason stadiums don`t do as well as racks per se is cuz they only have plants on 2 sides , but with your innovation and the chopped corners to get rid of dead areas I see dialage down the road...but....

The only drawback with staggered tiers is the bottom row catches more lumens than the upper levels , but as long as yas wrap everything that ain`t green including ceilings in reflectix or choice where light can bounce up , down , and all around.......It`s all good......IF....

Yas run 50 watts per sq ft and dial environment to the tits......WT.....You got this....Just takes more runs under yer belt to rinse and repeat for consistent returns once yas get to the point where yas can run buncha smaller rooms and monocrop EXACTLY like I see yas handlin ....and then.....

It`s definitely........babyshit......

Respect....and......

Peace....DHF..........

 

[HOVAH2.0]

you can add 2 more rows at the bottom of the 5k, one on eack side

 

[HashCat]

This is a clean setup man! Looks like you will have your hands full in a couple weeks....Well sticky anyways. Keep it up man!

 

[whatthe215]

supernuck- source material was some awesome GDP sugar. I'm all about oil for regular medicating... just easier than taking a buncha hits outta the bong.

DHF- very cool to hear you say the 'oval' as i like to call it, is a good starting design. I think this room will become a 4kw oval after this harvest since there's only 18kbtu of AC and summer is approaching.

HOVAH2.0- not really. i need space to walk in there, and i get behind the racks by sliding underneath the bottom tier.

a la DHF, vertical canopy won't exceed 5'.

HashCat- thank you. My fingers will be sticky, hopefully my hands are full of green.

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got some very exciting new genetics.. the Bubba is officially being phased out of the rooms.

New lineup is ODub, DubTech7, ADub, White Fire, Southwest OG, Valley OG, Tripple OG and Casey Dog.

First to go into this room (which will be a 4kw oval after this run) will be ODub.

From what I was told... it yields well, is potent and has great smell and frostiness. Done in 8 weeks. Flowers are similar to her sister, ADub, but she isn't stretchy.

 

[whatthe215]

day 40

day 44. trellis is up for the left side now. so trellising at around day 10 after flip seems to be the best as the right side looks pretty much perfect.

 

[whatthe215]

at day 45 i started cutting back calmag and floranova. gave em ~3ml/gal calmag+ and only 4-5ml/gal of floranova. 5/6 strength dry Koolbloom.

i've been handwatering since the drip system just sucks, but they stay moist for 2 days.. so i water every other day with 25gallons with about 2 gallons of runoff.

there are a few fake PKs that got in, 3 out of 44 total i think. so i stripped em bare of fans and ill pull em down in a few days so the rest have a little more breathing room. see if i can make oil out of em.

 

[whatthe215]

day 52 12/12

watered with tap +
1ml/gal calmag
3ml/gal floranova
1/3 strength dry koolbloom
5ml/gal SM90
1ml/gal dripclean

added 5ml/gal liquid carboload

i think Floranova might have too much N for late flower. i can definitely see the benefit in using 6/9 and being to drop micro but keep bloom up.

been taking about 5 fans per plant each day.

 

[whatthe215]

 

[DHF]

Every fan with a stem needsta go Bro....and over a week to 10 day period will help swellage as well as help git rid of excess Nitrogen since it`s stored in the nuthin ass fans.......

Get em gone my buddy......Lookin good btw......

Peace.....Freds............

 

[whatthe215]

got it DHF.

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OK just movin some photos up to the top of this page. day 52 12/12

gonna start giving them straight tap water with dripclean and pondzyme, maybe a lil carboload... i didn't realize coco would hold onto nutrients this well.

so day 55 today... i gotta scope em but im lookin for a day 60 chop. i should probably put a ton of water through em to really bring out those autumn colors. i haven't seen the bubba hungry in a long time....

 

[whatthe215]

yesterday i flushed with 120gal of tap with:
5ml/gal SM90
1ml/gal dripcean
pond zyme
pH 5.9-6.0

which is ~3gal per 2gal pot of coco.

the first of the runoff my ppm meter couldn't read so i cut it in half with 200ppm tap and it read 1600ppm so initial runoff was around 3000ppm.... crazy but the plants have never had any burn at all this run. i was super conservative with nutrients. i think it's a result of not watering to runoff ever, but the dripclean did its job.

last of the runoff was 7-800ppm.. i saved all the runoff in a bathtub and it was 1300ppm.

so my conclusion is that if watering without runoff with dripclean, a heavy heavy flush is required to get all that extra nutrients outta there. i think they coulda gone at least a week without nutrients just straight water living off whats left over in the medium.

also had a hiccup with the lighting schedule a few days ago. i was running with just 4 lights because i suck with electric and couldn't figure out why my 5th 240 wasn't working after rewiring multiple times. then i remembered i had a 6th 240 for the other rooms AC that wasn't being used so i added the 5th light but forgot to put it on a timer, so they got 18+ hours of light. i left it dark for 18 hours or so and then put it back on 12/12 at a more reasonable working hour (lights on noon rather than 7PM...) no ill effects yet.

also the room has had a slight light leak the whole time.. i never realized cause i didnt let my eyes adjust to the darkness when i'd peak my head in at night. it was from the downstairs lights going through the ducting to the attic which passes through this rooms closet. bummer since i know it will affect the final product but to what extent i dont know.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

crazy but the plants have never had any burn at all this run. i was super conservative with nutrients. i think it's a result of not watering to runoff ever, but the dripclean did its job.
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so my conclusion is that if watering without runoff with dripclean, a heavy heavy flush is required to get all that extra nutrients outta there.

interesting. it seems that dripclean is the #1 insurance plan with coco no matter what grow style you use.

 

[whatthe215]

Davethenewbie- it's good stuff, no wonder its mentioned a billion times on here "dripclean @ 1ml/gal!"

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gonna dump some more photos on everyone. from flushing a couple days ago..

side views

from behind, bottom level

 

[whatthe215]

now these are from today, day 56 12/12

scoped em yesterday, bout 60% clear 40% cloudy


edit: just wanted to throw this in there cause i love when companies have great service. just spent 20min on the phone with a guy from mastercool talking about a vacuum pump i was thinking about getting on craigslist. not even their sale, but he was more than happy to help me as well as offer some great tips for using it in a degassing situation.

 

[DHF]

Well I gotta say that`s a first Bro.........All my old head cropper growbro`s at the med sites never run over 750 ppm`s across the board total including all additives , AND dripclean @ 1ml per gal......but.....

They all run top fed DTW and or blumats , and "dwindle" ppm`s the last week or so with R/O and tapwater topoffs instead of flushin , cuz all fans were taken the week or so after end of stretch till there were no more thus getting rid of the nitrogen storing nuthin ass fans well before late flower , and the plants fade well till end of cycle ftw no problem......and.....

They never checked runoff cuz they roll with dripclean , and immediately after chop they throw rootballs , smartpots and all into pondzyme solutions to eat the roots and re-use the coco run after the next.....that said........

You`re the first EVER to document OUTRAGEOUS stored ppm`s inside said coco medium with NO ill effects from runnin dripclean @ 1 ml per gal that I`ve preached for a damn while ......anyways.....

Thanks for the info Bro , and them bitches is still real green and there`s still fans ta get before chop so get em , and next run get em sooner .......right after end of stretch....

Killer job Bro.....Keep up da good work....

Peace....DHF...........

 

[whatthe215]

harvested day 63, this is 75% of it all. 34 hangers.

drying room RH is 50% right now. no dehu or anything just a 400CFM exhaust. i hope i'm not stinking up the neighborhood.

tomorrow everything gets cleaned to perfection. then i start building the 4kw oval. plants should be in by the weekend.

 

[Mister_D]

harvested day 63, this is 75% of it all. 34 hangers.

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drying room RH is 50% right now. no dehu or anything just a 400CFM exhaust. i hope i'm not stinking up the neighborhood.

tomorrow everything gets cleaned to perfection. then i start building the 4kw oval. plants should be in by the weekend.

Nice

 

[whatthe215]

thanks Mister_D!

everyone! i'm thinking about putting 20-30 Bubbas around 4kw in this room. they're about 20-24" tall and 12" wide. they stretch a bit under 2x so im thinking that with a week of veg they should be able to do a 4' tall canopy. i would probably transplant into 3gal smart pots, maybe add some hydroton to the bottom or try some perlite mixed in...

thoughts? i could really use some insight. i have 40 of these 2ft tall bubbas and would like to have 10 to flip in the other 4kw room plus some monster blue dreams that have been vegging for fucking ever. i wonder if they'll end up just getting thrown out... good chance of it considering they're untested by myself and it's blue dream.... even worse than the bubba marketing wise. the high yield that blue dream is known for probably ain't as apparent when it comes to trees. yeah i think i'll throw em out... thoughts on that?