my 4 x 24w short t5 is getin my lil veg cube area way to hot! plz help!

[HAZE FIEND]

my 4 x 24w short t5 is getin my lil veg cube area way to hot! like to 100f hot! is this normal n should i get a fan and open an extraction hole or is there somethin wrong with my t5? i thought these where for cloning? it fried the few i put under it... maybe take 2 bulbs out til i have a few established mothers under there too?? the area is basicaly a 80cm box size with the light practicaly on the cieling or maybe 10 cm from it and the clone box was on the bottom so theres at least a good 60cm between em but my ballasts are undernieth the area so might be contributin to heat... plz help i need too succsesfully root some clones asap!

 

[joe guy]

Unless your doin 300 cuts u don't need anything that strong for rooting
I have read about cloning with no light at all.
Wouldn't try it my self but I use a 15 watt aquarium light for a 10gal tank at 10k even .(the super purple lookin kelvin) and root 25 minum in under 15 sometimes 18 days.
I'm trying SOG this run so I've been keepin 18 one gallon bags under one 40 watt twisty floro and a 60 watt same style, and do absolutely fine (only prob is I don't have to water as much lol)

 

[joe guy]

Oh yeha and I use a 7 inch mondi dome with the light assambly sitting rite on top...

 

[HAZE FIEND]

Oh yeha and I use a 7 inch mondi dome with the light assambly sitting rite on top...

thanks for the fast reply bro i wanted to do maybe 50 so i have 2 of each 1 i have so i can hopefully be left with at least 1 of each to choose the best phenos for bonsai mums of each of the 5 strains i poped beans of so would i be cool to just do with 2 of the bulbs in of the t5 u think bro? n then when picked the 5 or so bonsai mums to keep chuck the rest n take cuts n then pre veg em in there in new pots n take some fresh cuts off mums n just stick the other bulbs in if not enough to keep the room happy? thanks again been growin for years butnever really diped my feet in this end of the puddle... seems theres more to doin this right than i thought... not as easy as normal growin..

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Ventilation is a key component of ANY indoor grow.

Yes, lights get hot... that's why we use fans and ducting and a/c units and on and on and on. LOL

Welcome to growing! Don't try starting skydiving this way.

Stay Safe!

 

[joe guy]

All ways read your babies they don't speak English lol
If I understand correctly u want to chose phenos before you flower?
I wasn't aware that was possible.. I've only done 4 seeds and 3 are fire one not so much but I wasn't able to tell until 6 weeks in on a 12 week strain... I've always poped a bean and took cuts then flowered the seed and before the cuts were ready I knew if I wa gona run that said seed again..
Maybe I'm miss reading ur post I'm pullin pie tubes rite now so that may be the case

 

[HAZE FIEND]

Ventilation is a key component of ANY indoor grow.

Yes, lights get hot... that's why we use fans and ducting and a/c units and on and on and on. LOL

Welcome to growing! Don't try starting skydiving this way.

Stay Safe!

im new too cloning n the lighting used for that not growing my friend lol... been at that for years n years n on and on and have extraction fans and filters n oscilating n other fans and multi 600w and 1000w full setups my friend but thanks anyway lol

i know what im doing with every other aspect of organic growin if u had read my thread opening properley i was concerned with my t5 4x24w light givin off to much heat as thought they was meant to run cool??? n not need extraction???? lol got any useful knowledge on that plz? i would love some in that area im thinking get a mini extration fan on the job n will sort it as the clones will still stay high humidity in there domes even with air bein extracted out the area right

 

[joe guy]

Forgot to answer the first question yes 48 watts will be ample amount of light for 50 cuts to root now to veg ill all 4 and a bigger space lol...
It's fun swimming in the other side of the pool isn't it? Just wait till u start breeding seed like I have ha ha thas fun shit growing something nobody has seen even you lol... I've been recently cursed with the pollen bug.. I have mr. Nice I crossed with cherry pie and can't wait I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve

 

[HAZE FIEND]

All ways read your babies they don't speak English lol
If I understand correctly u want to chose phenos before you flower?
I wasn't aware that was possible.. I've only done 4 seeds and 3 are fire one not so much but I wasn't able to tell until 6 weeks in on a 12 week strain... I've always poped a bean and took cuts then flowered the seed and before the cuts were ready I knew if I wa gona run that said seed again..
Maybe I'm miss reading ur post I'm pullin pie tubes rite now so that may be the case

nononononono lol sorry let me clear this up, they are at the end of veg girls selected males culled right now waitin to switch too 12/12 under the mh/hps 600s, i want to label n take a couple cuts of every plant n stick them in my veg area with t5 n root em before i start flower n itl be too late to succesfuly take easy clones off the big girls, and then flower the ones the cuts came from that are at end of veg right now, n then which ever phenos of each of them that i like the most once they flowered n the cuts have been rooted n grown into lil bonsais i will keep them n cull the rest n will take cuts straight away from them n get this party rollin on a perpetual routine

just gota get the clone rooting n light part right first man lol.. plz help n i can get my plan rollin

 

[HAZE FIEND]

Forgot to answer the first question yes 48 watts will be ample amount of light for 50 cuts to root now to veg ill all 4 and a bigger space lol...
It's fun swimming in the other side of the pool isn't it? Just wait till u start breeding seed like I have ha ha thas fun shit growing something nobody has seen even you lol... I've been recently cursed with the pollen bug.. I have mr. Nice I crossed with cherry pie and can't wait I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve

haha seems we share the same pure passion for anythin to do with this beautiful plant yes i love a challenge too but its more fun getin it right hehehe it will be just a small bonsai mother n clone n maybe pre veg area not proper veg area i wil veg properly for a few week under the usual big lights before flower

your cross sounds banging bro id love a strain like that u got a good eye for strains to mixup haha tasty n po po potent!

 

[HAZE FIEND]

Forgot to answer the first question yes 48 watts will be ample amount of light for 50 cuts to root now to veg ill all 4 and a bigger space lol...
It's fun swimming in the other side of the pool isn't it? Just wait till u start breeding seed like I have ha ha thas fun shit growing something nobody has seen even you lol... I've been recently cursed with the pollen bug.. I have mr. Nice I crossed with cherry pie and can't wait I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve

sweet bro i will take it to 2 bulbs for now then n take cuts for my veg area with the 2bulb in t5 n that should keep temp down to right temp yea?

n once they rooted n the big girls they came from under the 600ws have flowered n iv tried it all n seen the best yielder and most potent then i will select the right bonsais that i took from them best flowered plants while they where in veg n kill the rest n stick the other bulbs in and keep the bonsai mums (prob 6 or 8 lil tiny mums) plus the clones i will be takin from them each time (50) n all should be well yes? :thank you

 

[joe guy]

Lol I feel like a jack ass I had my wife read ur posts and she said the sme shit he'll yeh your golden with two of the four for 50 cuts and as they get bigger and start to get stretchy flip he others on as they can take and bennifit for the extra light, and with the heat issues yes ur prob Gona need some kinda fan to pull the heat away..
And for what it's worth I got these lil things from a radio show called green pads jr its c02 for cloning 15 bucks for 10 pads
So that's 20 days worth supposed to speed things up abit
And from what I understand plants take c02 better in the 80 f area
I maybe wrong tho

 

[joe guy]

sweet bro i will take it to 2 bulbs for now then n take cuts for my veg area with the 2bulb in t5 n that should keep temp down to right temp yea?

n once they rooted n the big girls they came from under the 600ws have flowered n iv tried it all n seen the best yielder and most potent then i will select the right bonsais that i took from them best flowered plants while they where in veg n kill the rest n stick the other bulbs in and keep the bonsai mums (prob 6 or 8 lil tiny mums) plus the clones i will be takin from them each time (50) n all should be well yes? :thank you

Exactly how I would and do , do it
There's a few guys on here that would say they can spot a keeper
In veg but I can't so yes I veg then take cuts label them flower
The seed and keep what puts up with my feeding, I'm not down to make different nutrients at the same time. from what i understand
u can have 5 seeds of same genes do better with 5 diffrent feeding regemns. I've been doing the perpetual deal and may I say fuck it's a bitch so I'm Gona try the SOG idea and see how it treats me with cuts only...(guess I'm lying I'm doing 3 of cross I made lol)

 

[joe guy]

Wow bro seems like u got a hater already welcome to ic we Gota lots trolls in here but I must say a lot more gurus than trolls that's why I switched my avatar to a dancin troll to blend in so they leave me alone lol... Don't letem bother u and or don't talk shit back the mods are good here and will take care of them in there own way lol keep posting my friend

 

[Hydro-Soil]

im new too cloning n the lighting used for that

It's obvious you haven't done much reading on the subject or you wouldn't be asking these questions.

It's common knowledge that T5's get hot. *shrug* T5HO gets even hotter. They're not like T8's and T12's, you can't let the plants grow up into them or they get burned.

Cloning? Cuts are looking to grow roots. Give em enough light and they focus on trying to grow leaves.

A 100w light bulb in the ceiling of a 15x15 room is plenty for putting roots on cuts. Faster too, as long as the root area is 75-80F.

Stay Safe!

 

[HAZE FIEND]

Wow bro seems like u got a hater already welcome to ic we Gota lots trolls in here but I must say a lot more gurus than trolls that's why I switched my avatar to a dancin troll to blend in so they leave me alone lol... Don't letem bother u and or don't talk shit back the mods are good here and will take care of them in there own way lol keep posting my friend

lol na its cool u joker haha sometimes people dont have as much patience with explaining things that they have done for long and are new to others like me, but il pretty much master cloning eventually just like i nearly have with the rest of organic growing haha i say nearly coz theres always improvements that can be and are made n found out in this game so u never actually fully master it

 

[HAZE FIEND]

sorry double post lol

 

[HAZE FIEND]

It's obvious you haven't done much reading on the subject or you wouldn't be asking these questions.

It's common knowledge that T5's get hot. *shrug* T5HO gets even hotter. They're not like T8's and T12's, you can't let the plants grow up into them or they get burned.

Cloning? Cuts are looking to grow roots. Give em enough light and they focus on trying to grow leaves.

A 100w light bulb in the ceiling of a 15x15 room is plenty for putting roots on cuts. Faster too, as long as the root area is 75-80F.

Stay Safe!

thanks for the info bro will prob check the t8s or t12s out after this round if the t5 gets m,y clones rooted n thru it with 2bulbs in the t5

 

[Jnugg]

You MUST have ventilation...not just to extract hot,humid,stale air but to bring in fresh,cool,cO2 rich air...otherwise temps will get high and the air becomes stagnant meaning all cO2 is depleted.

Yes plants take in cO2 better in high temps (85°F) but you don't want those temps unless supplementing cO2 with a tank & regulator or a cO2 generator...and even then,you'd use it in flower....in a sealed setup...which requires air conditioning.

Keep temps in clone chamber 75°F and no higher than 80°F for best results as well as rigging up an exhaust with passive intake 2x the area of your exhaust.

Humidity domes help keep the humidity in check for rooting cuts...after roots show,remove humidity dome and start veg.


You've got a lot of reading/learning to do so I'd get to it.

 

[HAZE FIEND]

You MUST have ventilation...not just to extract hot,humid,stale air but to bring in fresh,cool,cO2 rich air...otherwise temps will get high and the air becomes stagnant meaning all cO2 is depleted.

Yes plants take in cO2 better in high temps (85°F) but you don't want those temps unless supplementing cO2 with a tank & regulator or a cO2 generator...and even then,you'd use it in flower....in a sealed setup...which requires air conditioning.

Keep temps in clone chamber 75°F and no higher than 80°F for best results as well as rigging up an exhaust with passive intake 2x the area of your exhaust.

Humidity domes help keep the humidity in check for rooting cuts...after roots show,remove humidity dome and start veg.


You've got a lot of reading/learning to do so I'd get to it.

thanks bro kinda what i thought i just dint know if u should or needed to extract air for a cloning area with a t5

i already done and constantly do alot of reading and research and growing n have done for a good 10 years at least now and i extract air outa my normal big rooms that i used too just veg and then flower in from cuts off friends or straight from seed,

and never really looked into the cloning side of things tried once n it failed.. so stuck to what i knew, growing bangin organic and veganic green all that time hehe but to clear this up

even in a cloning area with a t5 you need to extact air yea? lol thanks in advance, for now i have made an nin hole n for the out hole a hole into 1 my big room that air gets extracted from and have taped n sealed lightproof breathable cloth (a scarf doubled up) n then sealed it over the hole, n then taped n sealed a small fan blowing through the covered hole n have took the 4x 24w t5 short bulbs to x2 instead n hotest temp iv had is 84.5 F so all good people thanks for the time and dont worry i got this man haha just another feather that iv nearly been able to put in my hat just waitin for some cuts to root now so i can claim that feather..