BHO Help!!!

[Bobbito Blaze]

No no no no no no! The result will be oil that tastes and smells like pure mercaptan! Absolutely do not use that fucked up shit!

Could the Butane be the issue I noticed no smell or taste but for X5 it was real cheap made in China $3.00 a can I was told by a buddy to not use iso butane but N I belive he said is what you want and I could only find iso

 

[Bobbito Blaze]

This is a shitty pic but you can see resin heads in there still, now how to get them out?

 

[Crooked8]

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This is a shitty pic but you can see resin heads in there still, now how to get them out?

Better tane bro. Vector is pricey but the best. Power 5 is cheaper and still decent. 40 a case is a fair price. Vector will be like 70

 

[Gray Wolf]

Yup, you still got heads! The rate of dissolution is a function of temperature and time, as well as the concentrations of the resin and the solvent. The concentration is what it is, unless you are agitating to keep fresh boundary layers, so you have only time and temperature to play with.

As you didn't mention running frozen material, or that you live in the great frozen north, the temperature is unlikely to be the primary issue, so lets look at exposure time.

You can slow down the flow for more time, by the way you pack the tube. It doesn't sound like you are getting even flow through the tube so I would look at particle sizing and packing density. Using 10 mesh prime bud with about a 10% moisture content, we get about 4.2 grams per cubic inch of column. Make sure that you ram the material evenly as you pack it, not just in the center of the column.

To identify what your actual potential is, you might consider running a sample of your material in a frozen thermos with butane for a couple of hours. That yield should give you a good measure of what you are leaving behind.

 

[Bobbito Blaze]

I ran frozen maybe I have to pack it in tighter to slow down the speed in witch the tane flows threw the tube. I packed pretty well and even. The flowers I ran I kept cause they still look smokeable can I rerun this threw the thermos method? should nI refreez or can I soak it as is?

 

[jump117]

The flowers I ran I kept cause they still look smokeable

So nothing is lost, except for time and gas

 

[vertigo0007]

So nothing is lost, except for time and gas

Would there be nothing left behind in the bud, making it safe to smoke?

 

[jump117]

Smoking in general is not safe, or I misunderstood?

 

[vertigo0007]

Smoking in general is not safe, or I misunderstood?

Ok you got me my question should have been more clear. With respect to the general health hazards of smoking cannabis, are there any residuals left behind, as a result of the extraction with "quality" canned butane, that would render the material any less safe or more detrimental to ones health?

 

[jump117]

That cake that remains after incomplete extraction, can not be better the initial material.
Cellulosic waste containing resin residues and possibly residual solvent should be re-extracted, but it should not be smoking.

Meaning extraction is to separate the right from wrong, it's a truism.

 

[maryjaneismyfre]

I think its funny, how can you believe butane will get inside the trich head to extract the oil? The same way it gets inside the head disproves the theory, if tane is able to dissolve ANY of the "shell" to get the innards then it would simply dissolve the entire thing.... why wouldn;t it?

Illogical completely.

Not quite..the liquid butane is a solvent, highly selective at that and more so when ice cold which is why we use it. It does get in everywhere if the material is saturated with it and it does move THROUGH the trichome dissolving the oils which are soluble, the innards and most of the gland heads and not dissolving the cellulose husk of the trichome. Its the basics of extracting with a solvent.

Butane does to a degree also dissolve some wax and fats and one can see these crashing out when winterizing the BHO in ethanol. Your yield off bud should be around 7% on the low end just doing a quick spray through for best quality and 15% and upwards to 20% of lower quality oil off good bud if soaking in cold butane in a purpose-engineered pressurised unit or using a recirculating unit.

Play safe with butane and good luck..

 

[maryjaneismyfre]

I ran frozen maybe I have to pack it in tighter to slow down the speed in witch the tane flows threw the tube. I packed pretty well and even. The flowers I ran I kept cause they still look smokeable can I rerun this threw the thermos method? should nI refreez or can I soak it as is?

Do this, try both then you get good data on what works and how well BUT....
JUST MAKE SURE YOU DON'T PUT THE THERMOS IN THE FREEZER OR ANYTHING SIMILARLY STUPID CUZ PEOPLE HAVE BLOWN THEMSELVES UP THAT WAY. Sorry for shouting haha but do it safely, use a plastic (ie no static spark) freezer box outside with ice packs or some other method and be safe, butane is explosive in MINUTE concentrations and likes to pool on the floor.

 

[Bobbito Blaze]

I thought you where suposed to put the thermos in a freezer first no?. I briefly read about the method I would have to look more into it before I would do any thing of course. But on a better note my cousin felt for me an my failed efforts well I got a few hits of my first oil ever more of tease, But he hooked me up with this stuff called earwax now I heard you guys on the sight speak of it. And I heard of it while in Cali but never actually seen it can anyone verify if this is genuine Ear Wax?

 

[CarefulGrower]

Wax (ear wax) is just a term for consistency. ISO or butane oil in that form is often referred to as budder/wax, what you have looks just like it.

 

[Bobbito Blaze]

Thanks nfor info this stuff is great you dont see much of this on the East Coast, Shit no one knows what the stuff is here when I show them.

 

[maryjaneismyfre]

Get everything cold first, including can of gas, but don't put any receptacle you've put butane into like a thermos in the freezer with the butane...Its an explosion waiting to happen. The 'wax' will be from how long you soak the tane, whether it was whipped too or just from the strain and it also will be strain dependent ie some will not do it with quick rinse and whipping. It seems to be the nature of some of the aromatic terpenes.

 

[Bobbito Blaze]

Wax? whipped? I thought you whipp after you make the oil? nnnand is that just to help it purge?

 

[Bobbito Blaze]

Ok so the neon stuff is complete crap. Someone showed me how to mirror test properly. First time I didint know to turn the can upside down. pretty dumb now that I think of it but hey. Now when I tested it properly, there was only a slight residue. But it smelled not like rotten egg sulfery smell but more like wet tar or black top. I noticed the same smell in my oil made with it at first but I thought it might be normal. How ever I got some VECTOR X5 Premium no smell what so ever. $7 A can big difference from $4 a can for that NEON, they also make the same stuff different can under the name TATTOO. Stay far away anyway, reran that old batch with the Vector and got much more then the first run with the other stuff. Dont know if that had some thing to do with it, but thats the only thing changed, and much better results.

 

[s4b]

Its not illogical...Going by the tane dissolves the whole trich head...Wouldnt this mean that if u ran kif then u should have most if not all of ur material dissolved???

Tane can touch a part of the head, dissolve a part of it letting the oil ooze out...is this too far of a stretch?? just asking

 

[s4b]

Maryjaneismyfre i totally agree....thank u for wording it better than i could