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A perfect cure every time
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rrog, I'd suggest that since his herb was only in jars for half a day, he'll be just fine. I recently chopped a couple large Durban Poison girls and racked them for about a week. Ambient RH was around 40% but the stems were not snapping. Still, I thought I let them go too long and trimmed them down and jarred them. After 24 hours, my Caliber III's read 48% and I was not happy with that reading. After a week in the jars, the buds have sweated out and the RH in the jars is at 68-70% so I will have some additional drying to do.
Point is, this is not a determination you can make in a couple of hours, it is a long term measurement once the herb is in a closed, stable environment. As I've practiced this method for the last couple years now, I've realized that different strains dry at different rates and that whatever affects your drying area (ambient RH or heating/cooling system) will impact drying time as well.
Greenops, I think your medicine is just fine, keep it in the curing range and all should be well.
Point is, this is not a determination you can make in a couple of hours, it is a long term measurement once the herb is in a closed, stable environment. As I've practiced this method for the last couple years now, I've realized that different strains dry at different rates and that whatever affects your drying area (ambient RH or heating/cooling system) will impact drying time as well.
Greenops, I think your medicine is just fine, keep it in the curing range and all should be well.
It takes about 24-48 hours for the true humidity in the sealed jar, to show on a gauge.
Even then; it can still creep up, later.
Even then; it can still creep up, later.
If after hitting 40% and went up above 60% on it's own (no orange peels) in a sealed jar, then curing would continue. If the bud would have stayed at 40% after being re-sealed then curing will not / cannot continue.
Also, having 70-77% Rh will risk mold. I wouldn't do this unless I was under 68-70%
Also, having 70-77% Rh will risk mold. I wouldn't do this unless I was under 68-70%
rrog, you are technically correct in your assessment, but I still think he'll be OK. I've literally done the same thing before (without the orange peels) and until you leave the hygrometer sealed with the herb for at least 48-72 hours, IMHO you won't really have a true understanding of the situation. I've had large Indica buds that have registered increased readings up to 5 days after jarring.
Obviously different strains/bud structures in different climates will hold moisture and dry at different rates, but IMO that's what makes curing an art and not a science. Experience with each strain you dry/cure rules the day.
Obviously different strains/bud structures in different climates will hold moisture and dry at different rates, but IMO that's what makes curing an art and not a science. Experience with each strain you dry/cure rules the day.
Dawn Patrol- We're on the same page. As you and I both said, IF his bud only (no orange peel) were to have been re-sealed and the Rh increased on it's own, then clearly he still had a high cellular water content. We'll never know because of the orange peels.
As I've learned about the myriad complex molecules used for growth; secondary metabolites, etc, I can now see that if these molecules are not in a stable environment, they break down, sometimes very rapidly. So it's clear to me that curing is not simply a function of water and oxygen. This is proofed out because when we re-establish the water and O2 levels - no more curing. We just have re-hydrated uncured bud. Clearly there are other molecular activities that can't be jump started and it's a reasonable conclusion that the missing ingredient are the secondary metabolites / enzymes that are fleeting and fragile.
I wish I has some scientific writings to describe this based on hard lab data, but I haven't spent the time to see what's out there.
As I've learned about the myriad complex molecules used for growth; secondary metabolites, etc, I can now see that if these molecules are not in a stable environment, they break down, sometimes very rapidly. So it's clear to me that curing is not simply a function of water and oxygen. This is proofed out because when we re-establish the water and O2 levels - no more curing. We just have re-hydrated uncured bud. Clearly there are other molecular activities that can't be jump started and it's a reasonable conclusion that the missing ingredient are the secondary metabolites / enzymes that are fleeting and fragile.
I wish I has some scientific writings to describe this based on hard lab data, but I haven't spent the time to see what's out there.
MY PERFECT CURE:
THIS
PLUS THIS:
PLUS A FEW OF THESE:
YEP. THAT'S IT.
THIS
PLUS THIS:
PLUS A FEW OF THESE:
YEP. THAT'S IT.
that it is. depending on the weather where you are, a $100 de-huey ain't bad to have either.
right now i'm experimenting with those boveda humidipaks they use in cigar humidors. it's basically a 2-way desiccant gel packet. they're pretty damn expensive if you're buying any sizable quantity, but i hit up the manufacturer for some free samples. so far i've only found out that they don't do fuck all to make overly dry herb crippy again. will let y'all know how they work on freshies shortly.
right now i'm experimenting with those boveda humidipaks they use in cigar humidors. it's basically a 2-way desiccant gel packet. they're pretty damn expensive if you're buying any sizable quantity, but i hit up the manufacturer for some free samples. so far i've only found out that they don't do fuck all to make overly dry herb crippy again. will let y'all know how they work on freshies shortly.
CaStoner
Member
Well it's been around 1 yr and I'm down to my last 2 bottles before the next harvest and all I can say is the weed was smooth and sweet 65-70 range nothing wrong with those analog ones on ebay.
Sometime I don't even burp them lol I forget!
Next crop growing with Maxigrow/bloom looking good going to KISS
Sometime I don't even burp them lol I forget!
Next crop growing with Maxigrow/bloom looking good going to KISS
PetCo has a hygrometer that is only a couple inches in diameter, and a half inch or so thick. So far what I've seen, seem to be fairly consistent (unlike the couple of digitals I have had). Petco sells them in the stores and online. The store near me sells them for like $6 each.
Easy in, easy out, of wide mouth jars.
A friend told me about them.... so just passing along the info. They sell them for reptile habitats.
Easy in, easy out, of wide mouth jars.
A friend told me about them.... so just passing along the info. They sell them for reptile habitats.
LeeROI
Member
http://www.pyrexware.com/index.asp?pageId=14&CatID=380&SubCatID=399
(6 cups is 48oz = quart-and-a-half)
(6 cups is 48oz = quart-and-a-half)
that's good as long as you only need a few of them.
$7 per 48oz vs. $1.67 per 64oz for mason jars gets to be a huge difference rather quickly.
$7 per 48oz vs. $1.67 per 64oz for mason jars gets to be a huge difference rather quickly.
Where are you finding gallon mason jars? I'm paying almost that much each for the wide mouth quart jars.
I got HALF gallon 64oz'ers, by the 6 pack at Ace Hardware.
Gallons are Way up there in price.... from what I've found 1 gallon jar, is about the same price as 6 half gallons.
