best silicon additive.

[roll it large]

no it's not it's just silicic acid you could even drink it

orthopur si (google it) it's an American product ,horse health supplement

peace

 

[marcnh]

batonicare silica blast with gh 3 part/calmag +. i like it.

 

[G.O. Joe]

as I've found something way cheaper and it's the most bio available form of silica silicic acid just like fasilator

orthopur si (google it)

I'd wanna compare them, not trusting them at all on the bioavailability. Fasilitor might be made in such a unique, unusual, and patented way that the silicic acid does not polymerize as much as products made in any other way do, retaining bioavailability.

 

[Kcar]

AgSil 16H is what I use.

 

[poindexterous]

Here's a thread I started, and thought covered it well a while back...

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=218814

Also search "silicate" in the "NEW! Thread Title Search"

P

 

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I'd wanna compare them, not trusting them at all on the bioavailability. Fasilitor might be made in such a unique, unusual, and patented way that the silicic acid does not polymerize as much as products made in any other way do, retaining bioavailability.

aptus will have sourced the silicic acid like most other elements you will be surprised at how many products contain it including ones for human consumption

another Dutch nutrient company called gold star use it too

peace

 

[G.O. Joe]

aptus will have sourced the silicic acid like most other elements you will be surprised at how many products contain it

Read the patent.

No one selling silicate or "orthosilicic acid" in water is selling anything like Fasilitor, because that isn't what it is. Who else is selling liquid product that contains no water? Any of these other products could have been made and sold a hundred years ago, while Fasilitor is quite new and completely different. That's why Aptus made this whole line of products around it. That doesn't mean I believe their claims without comparison with the other products that make claims, but chemically, it sounds pretty good.

 

[roll it large]

I'm out of my depth here lol I can say the orthopur si is given to them as a powder form like mentioned in the patent ifyou download the PDF it says so

these make bold claims on their product
orgono living silica

the inventor who has the patent is from the nederlands his research isn't just agriculture it's for animals and humans too so there should be other products out there very similar to fasilator I know it contains more than just silica

peace

 

[EclipseFour20]

Investigate how your silica additive...is taken up by the plant...and how much of it is "plant available silica"...and how much will never be available during the plant's very short life cycle. It will surprise you.

 

[TheArchitect]

To make fasilator or whatever it is,

Poly ethelyne glycol
Acid
Pottasium silicate
Boric acid



Acidify peg to .5 ph

Let acidified peg sit at room temp, or slightly elevated(ie 25c) for 18 hours to absorb water

While mixing peg vigorously add 1% by weight silicate

Continue mixing, add .2% by weight boric acid.


Your done, you can add .2-1% fulvic acid also. Skip the molybdenum, it's poisonous and unnecessary.


Apply at 5ml/L


Btw, I recommend you do your own research, this reciepe is not necessarily an exact clone, but you should see the benefits of Si and B application. As a foliar at the upper safe concentration limit for boron (keep B at or under 1ppm) it acts as a safe growth retardant.

To obtain a high concentration of non-colloidal silicic acid a high concentration of the water absorbing additive is necessary. The water absorbing additive in the solution of the invention is present in a concentration of at least 30% (W/V,Weight per volume for powders and V/V for liquids), preferably 40%. Such solutions can surprisingly be stored as stock solution and kept for a long time (>1 year) at room temperature before dilution and application in plants, animals and humans. Hence, in this way a solution is created with a high concentration of silicic acid, that can be used as stock solution, in which silicic acid is present in its non-colloidal bioavailable form, notwithstanding its high concentrations and the presence ofboron. This solution has a pH below 2 and preferable below 1, has a silicon-boron ratio between 0.1 and 1000 and is filterable through a 0.1 micron filter, e.g. a membrane filter, and are also filterable through a 20,000 MW (Da), e.g. an Amicon filter.

For this concentrated solutions containing a water absorbing additive (or a combination of water absorbing additive), the concentrations for both elements in the form of acids can approximately be between 0.01 and 2 wt. % (Si) and 0.0001 and 4wt. % (B), respectively (1% is 10 mg/ml).

It is known that B can also stabilise non-colloidal silica. However, this stabilisation only lasts for a short period, about a day. Furthermore, such stabilisation is only achieved when the amount of B is much higher than in the solution of theinvention (e.g. at least 10 times higher than Si).

Boric, silicic and also fulvic acid (extract of fulvic material and heterogeneous material, comprising organic weak acids and minerals) are weak acids and poorly soluble in water. In low concentrations they are common in non-polluted water allover the earth. They are vital for mineral health of plants, animals and humans. All these acids become depleted in polluted systems and by that, their bioavailability decreases. We found that selected mixtures of these acids in liquid formulations atlow concentrations stimulate normal health conditions and could be used as nutrient preventing several diseases and as anti-aging agents. Hence, the solution of the present invention can also comprise in a specific embodiment fulvic acid. In such asolution, fulvic acid is present in a final concentration between 0.1 and 10% (V/V).

Concentrated solutions like these, comprising non-colloidal silicic acid, boric acid (and optionally fulvic acid) and a water absorbing additive can be prepared in a way in which one or more silicon and boron compounds are hydrolysed in an acidsolution containing one ore more dissolved water absorbing additives. During this method, the water absorbing additive (humectant) is dissolved in water and a strong acid is added. It can be necessary to bring or keep the water absorbing additive (e.g.PEG 400 or 600, polyethylene glycol with mean MW of 400 or 600, respectively) before adding the acid to approximately 20.degree. C. Then, the solution is brought at a temperature of higher than about 20.degree. C., but lower than approximately40.degree. C., e.g. 25.degree. C., and held at this temperature for a few hours, e.g. 5 h, for good hydration. Boric acid can be added, e.g. in the form of crystalline material or alkali or alkaline earth borates. It is preferred to acidify and tofully hydrate the water absorbing additives (humectants as liquids or with water mixed powder), for some time at e.g. approximately a temperature >20.degree. C., before adding silicate. Then silicon is added (e.g. an alkali or alkaline earthsilicate solution). A good result was e.g. obtained with the addition of an identical volume of a diluted five or tenfold alkaline potassium silicate solution (12-18% Si) in water (water must have approximately a temperature >22.degree. C.) which isadded to the concentrated PEG-boric acid solution very slowly under stirring. The solution is heated until 25.degree. C. in order to hydrate fully the humectant (to prevent precipitation of silicic acid). This means that the concentration of thehumectant is initially at least 60%, preferably at least 80%, and after adding the silicon containing solution, the final humectant concentration is at least 30%, preferably at least 40%.

The invention also comprises the aqueous solution of acidified strong water absorbing additive and boric acid alone, that can be combined with a silicic acid solution, before use. After the combination, the obtained solution can be diluted andapplied. For example, the humectant-boron solution is, before use, combined with the silicic acid solution and than e.g. diluted and sprayed on plants. Several combinations of solutions are possible, to obtain the solution of the invention.

The obtained solution has a high concentration of silicon and can be stored, without, or substantially without, colloid formation longer than a year (stock solution). Due to the low pH, the solutions will have to be diluted before use, such thatan acceptable pH is reached. This pH will depend upon the application. The concentrated solution according to the present invention can, after dilution of the solution, be added to plants or trees. The solution is diluted with water from approximately200 to 20,000 times, preferably 300 to 10,000 times and more preferably 500 to 3000 times, before adding to plants or trees. The diluted solution according to the present invention can be used to strengthen plants or trees, to increase their resistanceagainst microbial infection, insects, pests, fungi, or extreme physical conditions like freezing.

It is clear that the (concentrated) solution added to the plants or trees, may also contain other additives. These additives can for example be added after dilution of the concentrated solution. The additives can also be added to theconcentrated stock solution. The person skilled in the art will choose the appropriate way. Additives are for example, minerals, nutrients, anti-microbial agents, insecticides, pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, etc., or combinations thereof. Preferably, these additives do not substantially decrease the solubility of silicic acid in the solution or promote colloid formation. However, when the solution according to the invention is used (after dilution) to spray e.g. fruit, usually the lessfungicides etc. are necessary, because of the improved fruit quality.

The concentrated solution of the present invention can, after dilution, be added by spraying on plants or trees and/or their leaves or by adding the solution to the medium in which the plants or trees have their roots. As described above, thiswill enhance the health of the plants or trees. It is also a way to concentrate boron and silicon in e.g. vegetables and fruits. Vegetables and fruits can than be used for human consumption.

Good results, e.g. on fruit like bananas, apples, grapes, pears, etc., on rice, unions, potatoes, tomatoes, etc., but also on flowers etc., can e.g. be obtained with a solution that has a Si concentration of about 0.1 to 1, preferably about 0.2to 0.6 wt. %, a B concentration of about 0.01 to 0.5, preferably about 0.05 to 0.2 wt. %, and as humectant PEG 400 in an amount of about 30 to 60, preferably about 35 to 50 wt. %. The pH of this solution is about 0.3 to 0.7, preferably about 0.4 to 0.6.

 

[alaskagrown]

Here's place to get cheap 65% Silicon Dioxide powered. Free shipping anywhere in the U.S.

http://www.kelp4less.com/shop/silica-dioxide/#.UUPmW7tZ7VR

65% Silicon Dioxide
5% Potassium Dioxide

To make concentrate, mix 8oz Silicon dioxide powder per gallon distilled water.

Mix solution well, and again before use.

Be well,

alaskagrown

 

[green thumbs]

For me it's Dyna Gro protekt

 

[CrazyKoala]

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[chrondondalae]

I used Protekt for years, good stuff.

I'm trying Fasilitor this round and getting amazing results. Fat stalks, compact plants.