Noobin up a PPK

[DaveTheNewbie]

the stuff in your pic looks good. have you put some in a container by itself and checked it for flow?

thats a smart pot its in and it flows like a baby!
(a baby thrown downhill on a black ski run thats icy)

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

ok people im amazed at the growth of the PPK. In all the time ive been growing ive never seen anything like it. Its everything hotboxes said and more. if you have any chance at all, make a single PPK, stick it in the corner, and watch it go. Its as revolutionary a change as going from horizontal to vert growing and ditching the hoods. its that good.

heres the difference in 2 days growth :

sunday:

tuesday:

and the pictures dont do it justice, you have to see it for real. i dont know if its the wicking keeping the medium wet or the tailpieces moving the PWT, but it works.

i dare anybody to do a side by side and not be amazed. read hotboxes grow where he has one of these and 6 normal plants. the PPK is roughly double the size, and thats about what i would expect here after 5 years growing too. Internode spacing is almost zero, and thats something ive always struggled with given my heat.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

2 days?!?

That thing is blowing up Dave.


What is your top feed intervals/time like in the pure coco?

 

[hotboxes]

thats a smart pot its in and it flows like a baby!
(a baby thrown downhill on a black ski run thats icy)

ok well can't say I know how fast that is but I will take your word on it......

BTW Dave its the PPK plant and 4 normal hand watered plants But thanks for the mention of my thread man.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

2 days?!?

That thing is blowing up Dave.


What is your top feed intervals/time like in the pure coco?

1 minute 4 times a day (every 6 hours)
its an AquaOne Maxi 102 pump but ive got a pressure bleed valve because it was flooding too much. When deep flower kicks in i suspect i may water more frequently ... we shall see

 

[delta9nxs]

1 minute 4 times a day (every 6 hours)
its an AquaOne Maxi 102 pump but ive got a pressure bleed valve because it was flooding too much. When deep flower kicks in i suspect i may water more frequently ... we shall see

dave, how long does it take after each watering event for the reservoir level to return to equilibrium?

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

dave, how long does it take after each watering event for the reservoir level to return to equilibrium?

i havent timed because the plant is on the res and it makes it a bit hard to tell. I suppose i could try and wangle something with the lid half off and see. I suspect it would be in the order of 10-15 minutes as it seems to drain really slowly when the top is off the lid

 

[delta9nxs]

i havent timed because the plant is on the res and it makes it a bit hard to tell. I suppose i could try and wangle something with the lid half off and see. I suspect it would be in the order of 10-15 minutes as it seems to drain really slowly when the top is off the lid

don't go through all that! i was wondering because i think you should increase the frequency. six hours is a long time.

does the coco dry much on top? right before a pulse, after the six hour interval, is your coco still wet feeling on top?

you should be able to pick up a small handful of coco from the very top of the medium and squeeze it and get a few drops of water to run out between your fingers. if it not this wet you need to increase frequency.

this is because of salt accumulation. if you don't allow the medium to dry down significantly you are not concentrating nutrient salts in the medium.

dry coco is initially hydrophobic and once you wet it and put a plant in it never let it dry down. this avoids the possibility of channeling, which is when the applied solution finds a pathway down through the medium and doesn't disperse well. water disperses better going into an already wet medium. it travels through the medium like a wave instead of like water moving through a stream bed where it conforms to the bed.

there is a hydraulic "hook up", so to speak, in this device, that i believe sends a hormonal message to grow or to be more accurate does not send a hormonal message to down regulate growth to survive to seed.

and i believe that the rhythmic pulsing is stimulating or enhancing the molecular interactions and potential kinetic energy of these interactions.

see if you can increase frequency without causing any problems. at least once an hour.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

don't go through all that! i was wondering because i think you should increase the frequency. six hours is a long time.

does the coco dry much on top? right before a pulse, after the six hour interval, is your coco still wet feeling on top?

you should be able to pick up a small handful of coco from the very top of the medium and squeeze it and get a few drops of water to run out between your fingers. if it not this wet you need to increase frequency.

this is because of salt accumulation. if you don't allow the medium to dry down significantly you are not concentrating nutrient salts in the medium.

dry coco is initially hydrophobic and once you wet it and put a plant in it never let it dry down. this avoids the possibility of channeling, which is when the applied solution finds a pathway down through the medium and doesn't disperse well. water disperses better going into an already wet medium. it travels through the medium like a wave instead of like water moving through a stream bed where it conforms to the bed.

there is a hydraulic "hook up", so to speak, in this device, that i believe sends a hormonal message to grow or to be more accurate does not send a hormonal message to down regulate growth to survive to seed.

and i believe that the rhythmic pulsing is stimulating or enhancing the molecular interactions and potential kinetic energy of these interactions.

see if you can increase frequency without causing any problems. at least once an hour.

its never dry. theres too much coco for that small plant to drain yet.

there is no reason at all i cant run the pump once every hour. I was just worried that the coco would stay wet too long.

ive never seen growth like this, another 2 day photo tomorrow and you will be blown away.

 

[frankenstein2]

thats a smart pot its in and it flows like a baby!
(a baby thrown downhill on a black ski run thats icy)

That's awesome i love baby jokes. I envisioned it in my head when i read it, thanks for the lol.

 

[delta9nxs]

its never dry. theres too much coco for that small plant to drain yet.

there is no reason at all i cant run the pump once every hour. I was just worried that the coco would stay wet too long.

ive never seen growth like this, another 2 day photo tomorrow and you will be blown away.

the plant is not doing the draining in this device. and the medium should totally drain with just the tailpieces.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

ok another 2 day update. its amazing and the photos just dont cover it

Sunday :

Tuesday :

Thursday :

 

[hotboxes]

yep thats whats up dave, set it to cruise control and enjoy the ride

 

[DHF]

Node stacking and lateral limb building is essential for bigger plants with proper dialed environment , watts per sq ft /umols and par like D9 talks about , or else yas`re growin stems...but......Looks like she`s responding accordingly at this point in the game Dave.....

Enjoy the ride as HB just said....Lookin fer good things outta yer down under self.......Good luck and......

Peace....DHF.........

 

[forkup]

It's definitely hooked up now. Looks like the leaf margins are curling a bit, what's the ec?

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

It's definitely hooked up now. Looks like the leaf margins are curling a bit, what's the ec?

EC going in is 1.2. And the coco is totally flooded so i doubt its salt build up in the medium. I will measure the EC under the plant again and get back to you.

 

[forkup]

It should settle down soon then.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

definate leaf curling, and its getting worse. rest of the plant still seems happy.

EC of 1.3, PH of 6.5
each is a little high, but nothing deadly. My tap water PH swings like (insert swinger reference here) and its 6.5 going in atm.

EDIT : Make that PH 6.0. The pen needed recalibrating again.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

So how much can you veg in 1 week?

So how much can you veg in 1 week?

One weeks growth, Sunday to Sunday. And thats with some small amount of veg time defoliation.

Sunday 03/03

Sunday 10/03

 

[delta9nxs]

not too bad from transplant! did you ever step up frequency? in a closed space this also tends to drive up rh.