Doomsday Prepping for Economic Catastrophy
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Very well said! I agree, there is a very real problem of certain areas being over populated. People are jammed into these huge metropolitan areas like sardines. They are all fully dependent on the system to stay alive. The system brings them their food and water. I see this as the over population issue. They have no other way of getting food other than the system. A giant infrastructure depending heavily on imports. Imagine if the oil the elite control just skyrockets one day, and diesel fuel costs $13/gal in America. Meanwhile Monsanto is suing farmers in court, bankrupting them in the process and making the entire country more dependent on foreign imports. Again the laws were changed so they can patent life and take complete control over the food. They poison and infect the food chain with their GMO. People need to be encouraged to be self sufficient and provide for themselves instead of relying on a flawed system. But the social engineers want a dependent and lazy public because they are much easier to control. They demonize those who are self sufficient and independent.
Carrying capacity is the real ceiling.
unspoken
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Texas is uninhabitable? That is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. Do you understand how big Texas is and how many different climates/types of ecosystems there are?
50,350 mi^2 is the land mass of England. 268,820 mi^2 is the land mass of Texas. Less than 10% of the land in Texas is desert.
I find it uninhabitable myself.
Have you been to Texas?
Have you been to Texas?
BaldoSquemo
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Well, feel free to check my links, or use any number of the huge search engines and check these things out for yourselves.
The data is there to prove my point.
I agree with others stating that cities are the problem, however cities are Agenda 21s answer to "sustainable" living. meanwhile they move to outlaw home gardening.
You can post silly pictures equating me to a fictional madman, I wont take it to heart. But I will further encourage everyone to wake up from the corporate nightmare, and move to empower yourselves with knowledge and freedom.
The data is there to prove my point.
I agree with others stating that cities are the problem, however cities are Agenda 21s answer to "sustainable" living. meanwhile they move to outlaw home gardening.
You can post silly pictures equating me to a fictional madman, I wont take it to heart. But I will further encourage everyone to wake up from the corporate nightmare, and move to empower yourselves with knowledge and freedom.
BaldoSquemo
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Excellent point unspoken!
We understand the mechanisms that build and grow deserts, I could see humans more than capable of returning thriving life to barren areas. It just takes a new approach. Cities certainly will only harm.
Wow, that's only slightly less idiotic of a statement than this one:
Michelle Duggar has claimed that the Earth has no problem with overpopulation.
Duggar, who has 19 children, told the Christian Broadcasting Network that the warnings are a "lie".
"The idea of overpopulation is not accurate," she said.
"Because really, the entire population of the world, if they were stood shoulder to shoulder, could fit in the city limits of Jacksonville. So if you realize that aspect of it, you realize that we're nowhere near being overpopulated."
http://www.digitalspy.com/celebrity...-michelle-duggar-overpopulation-is-a-lie.html
unspoken
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I think you are missing my point. It's not that it has been changed from desert to livable land. It's that it wasn't desert in the first place. Most of the land in texas is prairie/grasslands/forest/coastal. And yes we are working on slowing desertification in areas globally, but what needs to be done in order to achieve that will not happen. It involves stopping timber harvesting and mining, and reducing water consumption/contamination. Also I definitely believe that fresh water is the limiting factor for over population. From there you could argue that science will handle the issue of how to effectively filter that much sea water and be able to distribute it in a cost effective manner, but we'll see about that. Water is going to get really expensive really fast in the scope of the next 100 years.
I find it strange to see that some define overpopulation as running out of room for people to stand.
Is there anybody here who thinks we won't run out of food at any point?
It's interesting to see who does what research.
Oh and for the record, Texas sucks to live in not just because of the weather but because of people too
Is there anybody here who thinks we won't run out of food at any point?
It's interesting to see who does what research.
Oh and for the record, Texas sucks to live in not just because of the weather but because of people too
BaldoSquemo
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No, I understood you 100%. I was just adding that that uninhabitable 10% of desert could easily become thriving land if humans acted to make it so.
Besides, an "area the size of texas" was what I said, so to clarify, not specifically texas itself, but an area of land roughly as large as that, would be able to house each family on their own plot of land.
But you are correct, it wasn't there in the first place!
There is a lot more land that just 1 texas, so there is a ton of room.
WHAT WE DO WITH THAT SPACE is what makes it more or less inhabitable.
If we became more self sufficient and less dependant on the system thats robbing us blind, we would more than likely gradually and naturally move towards a much better system of living. with higher regard and respect for our planet and how we behave on it.
Some fatpants rich bastard who wrote a book about how he wants to euthanise children in africa because the world is "overpopulated" endorsing forcibly instituting a plan for "sustainable" living is not the answer.
Besides, an "area the size of texas" was what I said, so to clarify, not specifically texas itself, but an area of land roughly as large as that, would be able to house each family on their own plot of land.
But you are correct, it wasn't there in the first place!
There is a lot more land that just 1 texas, so there is a ton of room.
WHAT WE DO WITH THAT SPACE is what makes it more or less inhabitable.
If we became more self sufficient and less dependant on the system thats robbing us blind, we would more than likely gradually and naturally move towards a much better system of living. with higher regard and respect for our planet and how we behave on it.
Some fatpants rich bastard who wrote a book about how he wants to euthanise children in africa because the world is "overpopulated" endorsing forcibly instituting a plan for "sustainable" living is not the answer.
BaldoSquemo
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Globalist policies incentivse the bread basket of the world to produce CORN
CORN man.
Corn is barely a food.
If farmers were producing FOOD, there would be more FOOD.
Take some time to listen to what Vandana Shiva has to say on the subject.
CORN man.
Corn is barely a food.
If farmers were producing FOOD, there would be more FOOD.
Take some time to listen to what Vandana Shiva has to say on the subject.
How much farm land do you think it takes to feed the US?
BaldoSquemo
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Here, I'll give you one pro bono:
“Globalized industrialized food is not cheap: it is too costly for the Earth, for the farmers, for our health. The Earth can no longer carry the burden of groundwater mining, pesticide pollution, disappearance of species and destabilization of the climate. Farmers can no longer carry the burden of debt, which is inevitable in industrial farming with its high costs of production. It is incapable of producing safe, culturally appropriate, tasty, quality food. And it is incapable of producing enough food for all because it is wasteful of land, water and energy. Industrial agriculture uses ten times more energy than it produces. It is thus ten times less efficient.”
I can feed myself man. Can you?
“Globalized industrialized food is not cheap: it is too costly for the Earth, for the farmers, for our health. The Earth can no longer carry the burden of groundwater mining, pesticide pollution, disappearance of species and destabilization of the climate. Farmers can no longer carry the burden of debt, which is inevitable in industrial farming with its high costs of production. It is incapable of producing safe, culturally appropriate, tasty, quality food. And it is incapable of producing enough food for all because it is wasteful of land, water and energy. Industrial agriculture uses ten times more energy than it produces. It is thus ten times less efficient.”
I can feed myself man. Can you?
I can (literally) and do but must admit that my garden supplies only a small percentage of my yearly calories.
How big is your garden?
I don't raise livestock as they need more land and eat food as well.
Do you have cattle?
I'm not defending our joke of agricultural infrastructure... I am stressing that food and clean water are limiting life sustaining areas more than actual area is.
I don't see anybody justifiably defending overpopulation as a myth that doesn't have eight kids and more food in the cupboard than they need.
Do people really believe we can have as many people as we want on this rock?
How big is your garden?
I don't raise livestock as they need more land and eat food as well.
Do you have cattle?
I'm not defending our joke of agricultural infrastructure... I am stressing that food and clean water are limiting life sustaining areas more than actual area is.
I don't see anybody justifiably defending overpopulation as a myth that doesn't have eight kids and more food in the cupboard than they need.
Do people really believe we can have as many people as we want on this rock?
BaldoSquemo
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Well, thats a clear point and I accept it.
However, I believe it's our biological imperative to grow and live.
I think we believe the same things here, but I'm arguing against a means to an end.
The Globalists want world pop to be 500million.
Where in that 500million do you fit?
If we want less people, we hafta stop pumpin out kids.
By the way, my garden is small, and I do buy most of my food, but I'm getting more and more self sufficient every day (Especially through knowledge on sites like this!!) I live with my girlfriend of 5 years, and we have no kids, but are both biologically capable. You see, we think it's kinda a fucked up time to bring a little one onto the planet, so we're being responsible.
Why can't we all be a little more responsible and a little less dependant?
However, I believe it's our biological imperative to grow and live.
I think we believe the same things here, but I'm arguing against a means to an end.
The Globalists want world pop to be 500million.
Where in that 500million do you fit?
If we want less people, we hafta stop pumpin out kids.
By the way, my garden is small, and I do buy most of my food, but I'm getting more and more self sufficient every day (Especially through knowledge on sites like this!!) I live with my girlfriend of 5 years, and we have no kids, but are both biologically capable. You see, we think it's kinda a fucked up time to bring a little one onto the planet, so we're being responsible.
Why can't we all be a little more responsible and a little less dependant?
I don't spit out children like it's my duty.
I know many who simply have one or two and stop.
I probably have a circle of friends that isn't a good example of American society though.
I know many who simply have one or two and stop.
I probably have a circle of friends that isn't a good example of American society though.
BaldoSquemo
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Haha, yes. I too know some people...
But here we are with the main point of the thread right? "Why wont we fail?"
Its up to us to continue to crack these people open and encourage them to switch their behaviors up.
Ultimately I dont think we will "fail" because history has proven that tyranical regimes always collapse... But the road to such things is covered in blood. Here we stand with still a chance to reverse the damage. Gotta keep having these discussions with everyone we can!
But here we are with the main point of the thread right? "Why wont we fail?"
Its up to us to continue to crack these people open and encourage them to switch their behaviors up.
Ultimately I dont think we will "fail" because history has proven that tyranical regimes always collapse... But the road to such things is covered in blood. Here we stand with still a chance to reverse the damage. Gotta keep having these discussions with everyone we can!
Tossing in loony-ass statements like that as if they're cold hard fact does little to bolster your case. Just sayin'.
Do 'The Globalists' capitalize the G in their name when they get together for meetings in their secret underground lair?
