list of organic ingrediants...help me make a soil mix please..

[Veg N Out]

Organicbuds, im not trying to point out your mistakes, just that if youre doing well for you in your own opinion that's great...but what youre telling others to do is just plain wrong...and thats not ok...do what you want in your yard but dont give people bad advice for theirs....ps..its you're not your...

 

[OrganicBuds]

Organicbuds, im not trying to point out your mistakes, just that if youre doing well for you in your own opinion that's great...

What it just come naturally, you don't even have to try?


So you tell people what is ok and not ok huh? Thanks, now I know who the IC police are. Also, I will find some links that can better explain what I was talking about. Most my posts are short because I have a busy life. I don't grow pot as my main job in life, I also work in construction. Like I said in the post before the post you are talking shit about, that I had a much longer response to what SeaMaiden had said. Your right, I didn't explain it very well. However for you to scold me and tell me what is right or wrong is just bitch shit. Have a nice day, mr. police officer.

 

[OrganicBuds]

And by the way, can you explain whey crushed oyster shells wouldn't be a good replacement for bone meal? I understand I said that bone meal in too large amounts will hurt your fungal life, but show me how replacing it with oyster shells will hurt this dudes grow?

 

[OrganicBuds]

http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~linda chalker-scott/horticultural myths_files/Myths/Bonemeal.pdf

Linda Chalker-Scott, Ph.D., Extension Horticulturist and Associate Professor,
Puyallup Research and Extension Center, Washington State University
The Myth of Beneficial Bone Meal:
"Add a handful of bone meal to planting holes before installing shrubs and trees”



Why does the myth of phosphorus-induced root stimulation persist? The answer probably lies in the
effect phosphorus fertilizers have on mycorrhizal relationships. When plant roots are in low phosphorus
environments, they exude organic acids from their root tips. These acids allow mycorrhizal fungi to
penetrate the roots and form the networks that assist plant roots in taking up water and nutrients.
Mycorrhizae are particularly adept at extracting phosphorus from the soil.
If phosphorus levels are too high, however, the roots do not exude the organic acids and mycorrhizal
connections do not form. This forces the plant to put more resources into root growth to compensate for
the lack of mycorrhizae. So in a sense phosphorus will increase root growth – but at an added cost to the
plant. The resources expended by the plant in growing additional roots to take the place of mycorrhizae
are not available for other plant needs.


This touches on what I am talking about. But I guess you know better than this PH D. right? What are you qualifications? You have no job and sit on a farm and that makes you an expert?


Look, I really hate fighting with people, especially over the internet. Next time, instead of telling me I am hurting the IC community with bad info, I suggest debating me with what subject is at hand. Tell me and others what the right info is, and show links to prove said claims. Just telling people they are wrong and I am right does nobody any good at all. Just makes you sound like an upset 15 year old.

 

[Veg N Out]

The phos in bone meal is not immediately available and so has no effect on fungi, the same phds ran a test on a brewer with an impeller pump as the mode of circulation and couldnt figure out why the bio count was so low...

To answer you question..caco3 will effect the soil much differentlh because the carbonate ion the calcium is attached to is volatile and because of this when it interacts with water there is a release of oxygen , carbon, hydrogen..this effects pH..something very delicate, the calcium in bone meal is tied to the phosphate ion, something immobile in soil and plant, so it sticks around and needs to be broken down by the fungi u say it affects in order to become plant available...this keeps the calcium in the cation matrix stable and consistent thru thr grow because it can not be leached

 

[warthog]

Oyster shells may be a great way to add calcium, but bone meal and lime will suffice just fine. Bone meal has plenty of phosphorous too where as oyster shells have little to no phosphorous. Bone meal is just killin two birds and killin em hard. Dont see why anyone would wanna chuck the bone meal...unless your a veganic pussy. LOL JK!!

 

[OrganicBuds]

The phos in bone meal is not immediately available and so has no effect on fungi, the same phds ran a test on a brewer with an impeller pump as the mode of circulation and couldnt figure out why the bio count was so low...

To answer you question..caco3 will effect the soil much differentlh because the carbonate ion the calcium is attached to is volatile and because of this when it interacts with water there is a release of oxygen , carbon, hydrogen..this effects pH..something very delicate, the calcium in bone meal is tied to the phosphate ion, something immobile in soil and plant, so it sticks around and needs to be broken down by the fungi u say it affects in order to become plant available...this keeps the calcium in the cation matrix stable and consistent thru thr grow because it can not be leached

What question are you answering?

 

[SeaMaiden]

Oyster shells may be a great way to add calcium, but bone meal and lime will suffice just fine. Bone meal has plenty of phosphorous too where as oyster shells have little to no phosphorous. Bone meal is just killin two birds and killin em hard. Dont see why anyone would wanna chuck the bone meal...unless your a veganic pussy. LOL JK!!

ONLY reason I personally am taking care with stuff like that (outdoors) is because I lost a whole planting of corn to raccoons after mixing in dry fish hydrolysate. They dug up EVER KERNEL looking for that fish, and they never found it. It grew into the most botched corn patch I've ever seen!

 

[Veg N Out]

What question are you answering?

Incase you already forgot...

And by the way, can you explain whey crushed oyster shells wouldn't be a good replacement for bone meal? I understand I said that bone meal in too large amounts will hurt your fungal life, but show me how replacing it with oyster shells will hurt this dudes grow?

The above is what the end of my last post was referencing, except I referred to the chemical composition rather than common name so you could maybe gain a bit of information. ? But instead, as usual, you are unable to conduct a civil science based discussion with me.. at this point ill ask you to put me on your ignored users list, as I am about to do the same as soon as I hit post. Again good luck and have fun in your yard, but please dont give out misinformation. Enjoy your summer.

 

[OrganicBuds]

I asked what question you were answering because I also asked you to post links. Just cause you say so doesn't mean anything to me. You could very well be right, but without me knowing any of your qualifications, I will continue to rely on the info from sources like the link I posted, from a PH. D.

I am not qualified enough to know if your information is accurate. If I went around and listened to every bit of advice from people on weed sites then I would be lost. It's all about researching for oneself, and usually not on canna sites.

Kick ass this summer.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

ok, ignore my advice. I will post up my soil mix just so you start to understand what all goes in a quality outdoor mix. You can make a mix with less amendments, but this is how I get down.

At the bottom of all my holes I add about 20% of the entire volume with steer compost with a handful of worms from my bin. Then I add my soil mix. To the very top layer I add another layer of EWC, then about 2-4 inches of fine redwood mulch.

Soil Mix (total mix makes 1.1 yards of soil)
50 gallons Roots Organics or Fox Farm Ocean Forrest
50 gallons of small size perlite
50 gallons EWC
50 gallons Coco
6.5 gallons of steer compost (Bu’s bio-dynamic thermal compost)
38 cups of Organicare “pure” grow
1.5 gallons of Organic rice
12 cups greensand
13 cups Rock phosphate granular
19 cups ground oyster shells
25 cups crushed oyster shells
25 cups alfalfa meal
12.5 cups of powdered dolomite lime
44 cups of prilled dolomite lime
25 cups of Dr Earth Humic Acid ore
6 cups of blood meal
13 cups of granular Azomite
6.5 cups high N bat guano
12.5 cups of Kelp meal
12.5 cups Feather Meal
13 cups of powdered gypsum
25 cups un-steamed granular bone meal
6.25 cups of soft rock phosphate
13 cups of Fox Farm piece of mind bulb food


Just water and give ACT's once a month, your welcome.

Do you call this the kitchen sink mix?
Because that is all it is lacking my friend.