Northern Lights: info/pics wanted

[FOE20]

so I get a no help check on post #96?....why?.....folk think what I said is not plausible/possible?...
maybe I should of came thru saying it was my Thai phenom?....but no way, and no way....funny even after nevil himself make statments as shown ppl still close their eyes to it...
and the post I made could be a help to those who take a simple Imbalance as Genetic...but Im being checked for it?....
seriously?.......whoever made that check please confront me on why that would be No help?....think Im doing this for myself?....for the glory of NL lines?....
one the most mercial lines ever prod?....wow....Im speechless....and thats a first...
Read what ya want...those pics we all been posting are worth 1000s of words...
after this amount of work, this is insulting...
Follow those who put a high price on a seed that mother earth gave them for free....
I hope the work stands up to the hype when said and done...
Cause it used to...and for some of us still does...the rest is "he said she said"...talk talk...
so never mind...the hype train stopped along time ago where Im from anyway....so whatever it is...enjoy it
FOE20

 

[FOE20]

For folks who are trying to understand whats being said here....
Proof is in the puddin....from single blade, to tri-foliate"(3 blades) to standard 5 palm form.....
Soon to be back to normal and then go into a very comfortable Indica form...
I can see how some would mistake these reactions as Genetically linked...it is as some say but not as much as being claimed by others IMO...
took 11 days....see it...read it...and disprove it if you will...
I am a student of both cannabis botany/pathology so any feed back is welcome..
I'll be flippin these in a few wks and also kept a Male just to put a nail in this..cause if all goes well I'll pollinate the Mazar line and make the good folk at ICmag some new Northern Wonders...
I did a early minor smoke test on a slightly seeded 95-NL and it was the same ole thick dopey stone...and no surprise really...flav and smell profile on this NL phenom is very low and lack luster..more to a Affi-floral mint-lime than true Pine...but still quite NL relative IMO...
anyway thats the real of this deal....
keep rollin
FOE20

 

[rangergord]

The first NL I tried was Nirvana's. I had to go away for a month at a critical point and lost the chance to make seeds. The plants were still alive when i got back but they looked strange and I had no way to know if they were the real deal or not. I regenerated them for a second round and this time they came out very nice. That was years ago. This last year I decided to try peakseeds NL. It is a bargain. 15 seeds for $30-40. I grew out all of them into a seed crop. They had the same smell and leaf shape of the NirvanaNL so I guess nirvana has the real deal as well. Anyway I did not take pictures. I am just too busy to bother. The peak NL yeilded 8 0z of bud from 6 plants under 400watts of HPS in a 2 x 4 flood and drain tray with 6" net pots/hydroton. They grew much too tall for my space. They were over 3' tall when finished. I needed them about 6-12" shorter. Next time I will start 12/12 a little sooner. Really pleased with PeakNL. Give it a try, You won't be sorry.

 

[FOE20]

My next NL runs will mainly include some old bcsc, a few from clips and those PNW cats....but im also curious on MNS Ort as its a inline NL really...
anyway far as the re-veggin NL their doin great....form coming back to true rather quickly now and Ill be cuttin back n flippin soon..the tall 1 is a male and tends to shoot a bit faster with a lil extra N...same ole shit tho....can literally pull up picks already posted that match these forms.......heh.....classic...keep rollin
FOE20

 

[OldLuck]

Awesome info foe.

 

[jessethestoner]

My next NL runs will mainly include some old bcsc, a few from clips and those PNW cats....but im also curious on MNS Ort as its a inline NL really...
anyway far as the re-veggin NL their doin great....form coming back to true rather quickly now and Ill be cuttin back n flippin soon..the tall 1 is a male and tends to shoot a bit faster with a lil extra N...same ole shit tho....can literally pull up picks already posted that match these forms.......heh.....classic...keep rollin
FOE20

foe would you mind sending me a link as to where you got the bcsc seeds? pm if you can't say in public. i'd really like to know

 

[GoodyTwoShoes]

I just ordered some NL seeds from Nirvana, so it will feel good to be growing a bit of history lol (even if it's not the original NL)!

Grown Nirvana's NL two or three times; nothing special, and they have a distinct lack of vigour; the Nirvana Ice I grew alongside them were way better; Nirvana's NL is nowhere as good or as vigourous as Sensi's NL. They don't even come close.
Sensi's NL, you can tell it's class; Nirvana's is pretty crap.
I think Nirvana may be the Mark Emery of the present day cannabis world; they don't have breeding facilities, they just buy the seeds cheap from various closet growers who let a few plants randomly go to seed.

 

[beatlejuice999]

High there, just looking for more info on what "original" NL exactly is. I only remember ever seeing some outdoors that were NL, and grown in new hampshire. It was years ago but know that I was loving it.

Now I have 8 females going, they are super short n stocky with really tight internodal spacing, with two that are slightly taller than the rest.

I always thought of NL as typically a sativa, but I guess I haven't paid enough attention to this strain because mine are seemingly indica all the way. The seeds came to me through a friend who moved to Denver and worked in a dispensary's grow. He befriended a couple of experienced middle aged growers, one of which was from maine. Being a fellow new englander he was fired up to get some NL from a Maine grower. Now I have the pleasure!

I would love to see other peoples pics of just true NL, thanks !

Dude,i always thought #5 was the top nl and #9 came a close 2nd!
But no #1 is the close 2nd!
Also that nl
#5 originated from usa.Seattle area think and was a clone originally!

 

[FOE20]

foe would you mind sending me a link as to where you got the bcsc seeds?

hey Jess its stock Ive held on to...not sure if anyone offers a bcsc ver anymore...but their all relative imo anyway...

Thats my whole view on this is NL's are only a base hybrid..
and even running the Sensi ver I have been showing go figure...it showed 3 basic variations, 2 base parent and a mixed hybrid..
so Im still sayin these are a Affi a HPlant or Paki cause heres why...
Skunks and Thais have certain citrus or lemon or even Floral tones but they are quite "pungent" at times...Even some Thais Ive run smelled like lemon piss n sulfur in veg....
NL's have always been known to be low Odor and more of a production plant...Ive always found low odor to associate with HP as they are a very earthy hearty plant but not very pungent..or cambodians but NL doesn't grow like a cambodian IME..some Affis Ive had are mad pungent acrid blow your house out stinkin...and Affi-Sk was the worst in the best way tho...
So when trying any NL lines just watch for 2 main forms and 1 hybrid form..All very Indica dom...and really its prob the same lines sensi and MNS still offer...
On Nirv Ive had some weird shows after bout 06 with Nirv stock...was good from late 90s thru 06 but not sure after that...I stopped buying any Nirv cause of things not being very consistent...Ive not run Nirv;s NL tho..but I have tried their papaya, master, rhino, widow, k2?...bla bla...as said it was better pre 06...

NL's are still a hunt I guess in a way...Im not using these Sensi ver for any personal breeding because its theirs and was selected by Bart and put into fgen...but I'd def say its a NL line and prob only take about a good 20-30 seeds to see the solid variations and make really nice selections as well...
honestly I'd like to see anyone run a good 100 and see if theres any Tall showing....but I'd bet even out of 100 there would only be about 3 variations and all 3 would stay sm to med at best...
This also would prove freq or the lack of...
FOE20

 

[Chillb]

I have seen bcsc nl5 at 2 websites, original desriptions and pictures ... too bad they are scam sites. I, among many others, would love to find these in seed form...I just hope if/when someone does it's shared and not turned into a profit machine.

 

[GoodyTwoShoes]

Thats my whole view on this is NL's are only a base hybrid..
and even running the Sensi ver I have been showing go figure...it showed 3 basic variations, 2 base parent and a mixed hybrid..
so Im still sayin these are a Affi a HPlant or Paki cause heres why...

Sensi's is definately not an afghani or hashplant; I have grown them to full height outdoors, over a long hot summer, and so I saw more of the plants true expression than someone who grows them indoors and force flowers them when they are two weeks old and they are about two and a half foot at harvest.
You need to let them grow to their full height potential outdoors to really see them express their phenotype.
Sensi's surprised me by how much sativa was in them; I took clones off the most indica one to perpetuate the line, but even the most indica one was no-where near a full indica, it's about as indica as skunk used to be, before they inbred it to the afghani side to many times.
Back on overgrow the common wisdom was that N/L was an afghani with a bit of Thai in it.
Now a lot of people are saying different things.
And the seedbanks aren't saying.

 

[CHillTowneGenes]

norhtern lights 2 or oasis was speculated to be just that a hindu kush mother with a thai male. the original northern lights is speculated to be an ibl indica dominant tha maintains a sativa high with a stong boddy stone minus the lock, similar to a hindu kush, but different... not so sure how confident i am in these stories... just seems to me that someone took several hindu kushes, paki, or affies and forced a collision, gave it a name and ran with that, but what do i know im just giving opinion based in my logic...

 

[FOE20]

Goody2 thats something thats been doc'd tho as its been very clear by most of the Seed Co's that the orig was a Afghan...
Now it was also all about the first cannabis Indica hybrid made for Indoors...So soon as you said "hot summer"...well that will cause almost any line to shoot liek mad..plus up past a certain lat they will shoot...
Dont know what your sayin but NLs to me are short..even OD...
as most that are bushed heavy indoor before flipped outside...
Indica only shot .5 to maybe a 1-2ft if that...
So grow a 4'ft Indica, Urkel, NL, Bubba maybe or a Hindu, and IMO flip a big bush of 1 of those out by July..no earlier...and you will get a nice return...It wont shoot as much and they will flower nice an within their pref time;line...and I havnt dont OD since the 90s...but thats what we did...bump a lil PK in aug or use a top dress POM fruit n flower...sheet...its prime..
if your sayin that 4'ft Indica will shoot and reach 8ft?...then I'd wonder about the stock...Indocas will be in heavy flower within 2wks..they stop Shooting cause of flower prod...even the lg NL5 bush in dwc i showed earlier only shot 1x and its clear as day and shit will grow like mad in DWC...
So unless your running your lines in a odd way I have no idea how that is working...
ok so if NL isnt Affi or a HPlant or whatever..what are you proposing it could possibly be?.....
btw IMO pot is a annual flower..takes a few months to reach any true maturity bro...then its flowered and finishes as any annual..
So not sure where thats goin but yo can also hold a mom indoor or veg of a year booting N and making a 10'ft bush...Knowing the plants is knowing the lines and how the react in any situation..
Ive played wit the lines enough...and even here its done nothing but prove the same ole doc's so gl working to prove otherwise tho...

I still use that same philosophy in my indoor as well..go figure...

Im bout ready to just buy a damn pk of Oasis...heh...hard to believe with all the promo and all not much for ppl and pics growing it...and its a cheap line to...odd...
FOE20

 

[Elmer Bud]

10 or so years of selection at 3-4 crops a year could have some thing to do with why its an evolved hybrid no ?
The big difference I see with NL to other afghanis is the calyxes [look like a sativa ]and the trichs . Most affies dont have capitate trichs . The high . It has a top end unlike the couch lock effect .
I have it from the horses mouth he bred an Hawaiian and an Afghan together to create the line .

EB .

 

[BlackBart]

This is Sensi's NL indica all the way . Yes there different Phenotype expressions in what they sell but all NL . My quest was to find the NL #5 in her . I have grown 6 foot plants outdoors with her . Low odor and tuff as nails old school indica.

 

[DryNobBob]

that's odd, thats supposed to be the parents, or close to it, of Williams Wonder? Its much better quality than any NL thats around anymore, I suspect thats why you don't see NL much, only in crosses, and its usually crosses to bolster potency it seems, NL/Haze, NL x BB, etc. IMO. I've had none of the NL lately of days gone by, can't explain why, that old no smell pure affie that would knock you out, just isn't around anymore that I can find, beans or cuts. Keep on with your theorizing everyone, lol. I like Elmers story

10 or so years of selection at 3-4 crops a year could have some thing to do with why its an evolved hybrid no ?
The big difference I see with NL to other afghanis is the calyxes [look like a sativa ]and the trichs . Most affies dont have capitate trichs . The high . It has a top end unlike the couch lock effect .
I have it from the horses mouth he bred an Hawaiian and an Afghan together to create the line .

EB .

 

[BlackBart]

That picture above is the NL that is very low odor and couchlock all the way Sensi NL #5 x NL #2

 

[FOE20]

hey Bob...actually I feel they use it to bring down the Flower times...specially on types cut to Haze and Blue lines..there was a old NLxBBud that was a beast for a while..
then last few yrs been hearnin about the Berry x NL?...but I still pref the older BigBud ver...BigBud took longer to flower than NL to so that hybrid also made sense...
keep on um vato

damn Bart,...ok now I know how far off mine are..heh...that looks impressively spot on bradda...
how much shoot u get OD?...
FOE20

 

[BlackBart]

She's a tight Christmas tree Foe . I wish I still had some of my indoor pics of her because She grew the same way . Like I said over at the other place there was a thinner mutated pheno that I didn't bother with . A person over at the S@#D Depot claims to have NL #5 in seed form . I don't know if I believe it since Neville said there never any seeds .....just clones .

 

[Elmer Bud]

She's a tight Christmas tree Foe . I wish I still had some of my indoor pics of her because She grew the same way . Like I said over at the other place there was a thinner mutated pheno that I didn't bother with . A person over at the S@#D Depot claims to have NL #5 in seed form . I don't know if I believe it since Neville said there never any seeds .....just clones .

Nevil said at MNS he bred NL#5 with NL#1 to create what he released as NL#5 . He went to the PNW later to collect their version of NL#5 but said his version had surpassed the original an turned it down .
He also said NL#1 was the key to his Indica puzzle . He had NL #5 , G13 , Hash Plant and Big Bud as cuttings .
NL #5 x NL #1 / HP x NL#1 / G13 x HP x NL#1 = G13 HP1. I dont know what NL # was used to cross to the Big Bud though NL #1 is prolly in that equation as well .

Now NL#2 is a horse of a different colour . Nevil described it as a Kush ??

Sun Light supply ring any bells Foe 20 ??

EB .