Aliens, yay or nay?

[DreamsofTesla]

Tell you what lets just drop it. Besides being tedious (debating over the meaning of words) it's getting too far off the topic.

Sure HK, no problem. I agree that that sort of thing is tedious. I just didn't want you to feel like I was trolling you or something by not clarifying or responding.

I wonder if you would take a look at this video, it's about 8 minutes long. It very much addresses this thread.

I'd be interested to hear what others think about the material presented (as opposed to whether Darryl is making it up or the other things that we've been sidetracked on).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_qh8LapBMA

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[unthing]

"there's a big change/shift/apocalypse just around the corner" haven't we heard that one before?

 

[Hubbleman]

change, shift, rapture, ascension, kingdom... "jump"... we heard it all before

 

[DreamsofTesla]

HK,

Regarding your question about Darryl and Bashar being the same person or not, or the contradiction therein, check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8A98zTcuKA

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Sods law, I start talking about the flood, and now my damned cellar has 3 inches of water in it.
If I believed in god I'd think he had something against me. I just got the roof fixed, dealt with the water coming in from above and now the motherfucker is coming up from below.
AAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH (Cue rageface, lots of colourful language, and shaking fist at the heavens)
Oh well, at least it's clean water and not turd/arsewipe/tampon soup.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

Un, Hubble --

One of the things he talks about that I keep coming back to, I understand it intellectually but haven't digested it emotionally yet. I brought it up earlier.

The idea is that each of us creates our own reality, and we do so over and over many times each second. So if we were conscious enough and flexible enough within our ego minds, we could create much larger changes than we generally do.

I bring that up because one thing Bashar says over and over is similar to what Gaius was saying -- all probabilities are occurring, somewhere, for someone. Whether or not it happens within your existence depends on where you choose to place your consciousness.

Thus some people will experience apocalyptic full-planet destruction, some will experience FEMA camps, some will experience some immediate planet-wide enlightenment, and most will experience something in between. Because any given individual hasn't experienced it doesn't mean it hasn't happened, just not in their reality.


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[Suspect]

You reap what you sow, if you do nothing consciously to raise your vibrations then no shift probably ever occurs in your reality. To say a collective shift is upon us is true, but to speculate a timing in our linear time, isn't that impossible? It will occur the moment our collective vibrations are compatible with each other, that's my guess.

 

[unthing]

"i can see it now, it's all light"

or not, hypothetically speaking, what if true nature of reality is cosmic horror you'd rather not know? is that a possibility

add:i'll admit at this point that im not verbally competent to get to that metaphysical level, edit:unnecessary rude. and it wasn't me who found that post unhelpfull. continue as you wish.

 

[gaiusmarius]

Bashar is too far out, lol. how can we be making our own reality moment by moment? who would make a reality where he gets busted or has other bad shit going down? most people are hopping for the best in the outcomes of their life, so where does all the chaos come from according to Bashar? i mean who would come up with some of the crazy stuff that happens in life, let alone consciously make it their reality? wouldn't we all be living as kings if we could create reality as we wish? sounds a bit too good to be true and not backed up by life imo.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

Bashar is too far out, lol. how can we be making our own reality moment by moment? who would make a reality where he gets busted or has other bad shit going down? most people are hopping for the best in the outcomes of their life, so where does all the chaos come from according to Bashar? i mean who would come up with some of the crazy stuff that happens in life, let alone consciously make it their reality?

One of the main points that I get from this is that a lot of this is *unconsciously* created. I can think of many things in my own life, that looking back on it later, I can see that I unconsciously created.

Regarding all the chaos, he does talk about that at length in one of the videos I posted, I think the one about "reincarnation" or multiple lives.

wouldn't we all be living as kings if we could create reality as we wish? sounds a bit too good to be true and not backed up by life imo.

Have you never noticed that sometimes you talk to someone and they seem to live in a completely different reality than you?

Isn't each person's experience of "reality" entirely dependent upon their own personal preferences, history, etc.? People only have the range of choices they create for themselves.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, consider the collapse of the wave form and the fact that atoms are probability clouds. Does the double slit experiment sound too good to be true/not reality based?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKdoE1vX7k4

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[BushyOldGrower]

When you talk to me I seem normal but actually I am talking from inside the bubble. The sour bubble most of the time.

These ideas of multiple realities are hard to comprehend but nothing turns out to be simple when fully understood. The universe and ourselves are probably a lot more complicated than any of us realize. The idea of multiple shared consciousness at one time is not new to me but this idea seems to hold some water with physicists.

We are stuck in our current reality and each reality has another of us so we don't see or know of any but the one we are here. Hard to imagine and I haven't had my sour bubble yet this morn. I did most of these posts straight but I am always high. Bog

 

[DreamsofTesla]

We are stuck in our current reality and each reality has another of us so we don't see or know of any but the one we are here. Hard to imagine and I haven't had my sour bubble yet this morn. I did most of these posts straight but I am always high. Bog

 

[bombadil.360]

well, so I've been lost in the world of ufo-related videos on youtube

I painfully watched all kinds of crazy shit

also found another disclosure project that was aired live on cnn in november 27 2010, not related to Greer though, but it does feature at least one air force dude that was in his 2001 disclosure. this also went down at the national press in DC, and this time only formed by ex air force members.

there's a lot of stuff on ufos being demonic forces / fallen angels, illuminati, and all kinds of conspiracy theories around the whole thing... there's this conspiracy called 'project blue-book', which is basically to stage alien invasion instead of demonic take over

but one of the really interesting cool videos I found was that of a ufo coming down upon the Dome on the Rock in Jerusalem, filmed by four different people.

what's really interesting about these videos is that there was a fake made of it; and also found an israeli news broadcast claiming to have 'cracked' the mystery by saying it was made by a film professor and his students...

however, there is another camera that caught the incident, and it is from a website I check a lot, which is the Jerusalem Weather Station, that actually caught on camera the light of the ufo over the Dome at the same time all other four videos did.

it's very interesting to check out this video's description btw:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTQVtyh4XkI

have fun!

peace

 

[Anti]

We do create our own "reality" every second of every day. What each of us experiences as "reality" is actually a simulacrum of reality created by our subconcious mind. Every instant of every day you are being bombarded with BILLIONS of stimuli, BILLIONS of bits of sense data. Your subconscious mind processes that data according to your beliefs.

Things that are important to you get "noticed" and make it into your consciousness. Things that you find unimportant get discarded before you even become conscious of it.

Whatever beliefs we hold will change our simulacrum and thus change our EXPERIENCE of reality. Reality itself probably doesn't change, but our PERCEPTION of reality changes according to our beliefs, ideas and experiences.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

We do create our own "reality" every second of every day. What each of us experiences as "reality" is actually a simulacrum of reality created by our subconcious mind. Every instant of every day you are being bombarded with BILLIONS of stimuli, BILLIONS of bits of sense data. Your subconscious mind processes that data according to your beliefs.

Things that are important to you get "noticed" and make it into your consciousness. Things that you find unimportant get discarded before you even become conscious of it.

Whatever beliefs we hold will change our simulacrum and thus change our EXPERIENCE of reality. Reality itself probably doesn't change, but our PERCEPTION of reality changes according to our beliefs, ideas and experiences.

Exactly. I think the only difference in our positions is that yours implies an objective reality, which I don't admit.

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[ezak420]

Legitimate proven contact that includes broadcasted pictures and videos with peaceful extraterrestrials is likely the only way for the human being population to drop petty, age old differences and focus on a better, less hateful, more loving future for now and generations to come.

 

[BushyOldGrower]

I see many different realities but in each one the way it is is the way it is. Our perceptions may see differently but we are here now in this reality and although the truth is complicated I believe the truth is just that.

But I am a little slow.

 

[Galactic]

Re: Aliens, yay or nay?

Consider a mirror.

It shatters into an infinity of pieces.

Each piece a part of the whole.

Each reflecting a different perspective for the observer, yet reflecting the same room.

So many opinions on our reflections... How pitiful.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Consider a mirror.

It shatters into an infinity of pieces.

Each piece a part of the whole.

Each reflecting a different perspective for the observer, yet reflecting the same room.

So many opinions on our reflections... How pitiful.

Very Well said,

The world has been turned into one large distraction from the truth, evil prevails while we are distracted with our digital devices hunger war etc.

If the majority were to find there center with meditation raised there vibrations, and tripped and visited the realms that coexist with us, we could all find a harmonious meeting place in this universe. I have heard it said that Aliens and spiritual beings take on physical form to visit us while we take on a spiritual form to visit them, etc. psychedelics.

Peace

 

[Seal-Clubber]

does that make future predetermined then?

no... if i know anything, we have a choice.. Hempkat and Tesla, I need to read whatever it is you`re reading. soo.. whats it called again? <speaking of masses> ~Hopefully not Dally and Bashar~

I see many different realities but in each one the way it is is the way it is. Our perceptions may see differently but we are here now in this reality and although the truth is complicated I believe the truth is just that.

But I am a little slow.

Bogglegum! ..I could never sleep, even as a child. ~Always thinking about the girl, things I do, things I feel. My heart is happy but my observation is not as strong for humanities surroundings.

4:10 ~ "O Lord, I have never been eloquent, neither in the past nor since you have spoken to your servant. I am slow of speech and tongue." - Moses {bible} ...rad

Bible something whatever 4:20 Moses:

So Moses took his wife and sons, put them on a donkey and started back to Egypt. And he took the staff of God in his hand.

..if it were me, it might look like a bong staff.. lol

We do create our own "reality" every second of every day. What each of us experiences as "reality" is actually a simulacrum of reality created by our subconscious mind. Every instant of every day you are being bombarded with BILLIONS of stimuli, BILLIONS of bits of sense data. Your subconscious mind processes that data according to your beliefs.{~ believe what you see? ~ Lost in the cave still. Plato set a block to grow beyond what we see and think we know, who can break the code. Some are suitors, some are of a different nature. Is a creative mind an overly eccentric mind? Are possible forms of random and abundant suitors bland in their nature and bring less than money and power on humanity? ~ Maybe the true goal is the future, our goal is the future. We are shadows and god-like figures in our time. Let us be good people unless those choose ignorancy as our only cause, those who choose not, let them live and be of a different nature. A world full of a billion peaceful individuals is worth more than an infinite amount of selfish clones.}

Things that are important to you get "noticed" and make it into your consciousness. Things that you find unimportant get discarded before you even become conscious of it. {we live in a fast world. Redundancy becomes our second nature within our fast and ignorant beliefs. We are not perfect, we have some time to grow, I would hope.}

our PERCEPTION of reality changes according to our beliefs, ideas and experiences. {yup, i agree.}

srry for misquote.. thinking while w/e


through tragedy, it may seem as if we, as people, cannot coup with our reality. If our faith in the world around us degrades when our youthful dreams diminish, we give our reason for hope and dreams to the youth, God, or some higher power. Hopefully the world we leave behind will create their dreams of tomorrow. If it does not, we have all failed our youth, our people, and our future. IMHO.