Living organic soil from start through recycling

[Chillb]

 

[Gascanastan]

Hey there lil feller..peek a boo...when you're ready to ditch that shit in your sig feel free to join in the thread.

Gas

 

[Cann]

lol he spake that which is unmentionable!!!!


"miracle grow"

 

[Chillb]

Hey there lil feller..peek a boo...when you're ready to ditch that shit in your sig feel free to join in the thread.

Gas

In due time friend, in due time Waiting for spring planting to come 'round to change things up... have some gardens outside in need of work too.

 

[somoz]

Hey what's wrong with miracle grow? I use it all the time to kill things.

 

[Gascanastan]

People don't realize how easy this is until they actually do it. Then it all falls away....years upon years of myth based cannabis gardening..until one day you find yourself without ph meter and spendy bottles of this and that from Joe's Dro-supply store.

 

[Chillb]

lol he spake that which is unmentionable!!!!


"miracle grow"

Damn, busted!

 

[Cann]

"Miracle Grow as necessary"

once you use miracle grow doesn't it become necessary....? kills everything in its path leaving you as the sole nutrient supplier to the plant.

thats how they get ya



not to hate, but it's hard to see ORGANIC and miracle grow in the same line on the computer screen...hurts my brain

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Miracle Gro Liquid All Purpose Plant Food 8-7-6

Ingredients

Urea
Ammonium Phosphate
Potassium Nitrate
Potassium Phosphate
Iron EDTA

So what's the difference between this fertilizer and Fox Farms, Botanicare or any of the other bottled gunk & junk?

 

[smoooth]

Living organic soil from start through recycling

Absolutely nothing. Except miracle gro is gonna be about 1/4 the price cause they don't have some kush iguana wet Betty thing on the label....

 

[ClackamasCootz]

That was my thinking as well, smooth

 

[Chillb]

"Miracle Grow as necessary"

once you use miracle grow doesn't it become necessary....? kills everything in its path leaving you as the sole nutrient supplier to the plant.

thats how they get ya

Does miracle grow really effect soils that severly? It's used very sparingly on my end ... that will come to an end sooner than later though!

not to hate, but it's hard to see ORGANIC and miracle grow in the same line on the computer screen...hurts my brain

No more headaches for you Cann!

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Fox Farms Tiger Bloom

Ingerdients

Magnesium Nitrate
Ammonium Phosphate
Calcium Nitrate
Monopotassium Phosphate

Botanicare CNS17 Ripe Formula 1-5-4

Ingredients

Calcium Nitrate
Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom salts)
Potassium Nitrate
Monopotassium Phosphate
Manganese Sulfate
Ammonium Molybdate

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Here's my favorite - Botanicare Sweet Raw

Ingredients

Magnesium Sulfate - regular ol' Epsom salts

 

[Cann]

It's all poison...

EDIT: lol except the epsom salts maybe...that ones not poison but stil a rip-off haha.

and my headache seems to have mysteriously cleared...

 

[ClackamasCootz]

When it comes to ingredients they're not the most creative bunch are they?

 

[Cann]

lol...

so I contacted Cascade Minerals (basalt folks) and they got back to me with some so-cal suppliers and sent me an awesome pdf info packet thing..I am trying to upload it but it is 3.9 MB (limit is 1 MB)...whats a good external host for this? or how can I share it with y'all haha

 

[somoz]

somoz

With the organic Neem oil (or Karanja) you're getting both pesticide and fungicide compounds. About 1 spray per week is all that I have to use to prevent problems. That changes for a couple of months during the summer (heat & humidity) so I bump the program up with botanical teas made with various members of the Mint family - Rosemary, Cilantro, Lavender, Thyme and Peppermint have been the most effective for me but there are a slew of choices. You can definitely scratch Sage off your list. Basils are equally worthless other than the Holy Basil (Tulsi).

The reason I started using these specific plants is that you can find them in commercial products made for greenhouse food production and are used in Canada and Holland meaning that their safety and effectiveness have been clearly established.

CC

This thread moves fast, I didn't see your response there Cootz. That's an intelligent way to approach building your own supplies. I use the Brommers Peppermint here and there when making a batch.
1-2 tablespoons per 5 gallons and the Rosemary is supposed to work a real treat as well from what I've seen.

When you are using the Mint family do you have a specific amount you brew in your teas or is it more a pinch of this and a pinch of that? I don't really see how they could be detrimental when applying as a foliar. Also, I've been meaning to ask you guys when you do your teas, not AACT's but just regular teas are you letting your ingredients free float and then straining or do you bag them up?

I always use a tea brewing bag for my AACT but it sounds like you guys are usually letting it float?

 

[Scrappy4]

Also, I've been meaning to ask you guys when you do your teas, not AACT's but just regular teas are you letting your ingredients free float and then straining or do you bag them up?

I make all my teas without tea bags, and then top drench the tea along with any solids. The exception is when I filter for foliar feeding. When we make a botanical tea a good portion of the original material still has some of the nutrients available for soil microbes to feed on.

I also mulch with fan leaves so after flowering I may have several inches of mulch on the soil surface. I remove this mulch at harvest, then replace it with the new plant in the same pot.

As the mulch decomposes and the bottom layer becomes soil the amount of mulch seems to stay close to the same amount.

Another neat little tidbit of living soil.....scrappy

 

[W89]

I use MM recipe for ACT too, like I have said before why try make an ACT that you have no clue what is going to contain at the end? like kelp slow growth down in ACT..

MM has done test after test to come up with a recipe that works, now all we have to do is follow that for our best chance at producing a tea thats gonna contain life without actually looking at it through a scope...

It's the best we are going to do without spending money on a scope and looking at out teas and cheking the best time to use it...

I'm brewing one now for my seedlings I will be using it later on,

I just watered my flowering plants with a kelp/neem botanical tea which I brewed seperatly for 48 hours, didnt spray on the plants this time as the other day I foliar fed and the pistils started turing brow form it so I wont bespraying anything from now on... they are 15 days in flower now. here is a canopy shot, being all diff strains they have been stretching all over the place each one different but I think I have this down all tops are within an inch of each other and the stretching should stop soon..