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Marc Emery's plan for legal washington state grow

xmobotx

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i got the impression that they havent decided how to handle the 'producer/processor' licensing but were starting to realize the potential downfalls of dealing in wet product @ the producer to processor level
 

Natural_Mystic

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just wait until people with billions of dollars to invest get ahold of the industry the average person trying to make this a business wont last , money talks bullshit walks
 

xmobotx

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there is a lot of public comment to indicate 'the people' dont want that to happen

as a WA res i concur and of course have concerns that it will anyway
 

HashCat

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People will soon learn that commercially grown anything is inferior to a nurtured crop. You will see me with a sac from "Joe Blow" with the 2k watt grow. Before I buy some Marc Emery warehouse "beasters".
 

Hammerhead

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I bet ya the price per oz will still stay high. These guys are profit generated now. Im very eager to see what happens to the prices in co and wa.
 

VenturaHwy

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I suspect Emery's numbers are pulled out of thin air but lets run with them a minute.

A quick calculation starting with his 37,500 lbs per month gives us 450,000 lbs a year demand. Let's assume you can grow a one pound dynamite cannabis plant in a 6' X 6' patch of ground and you only count on one harvest a year (bad weather, bugs and all). Then you would need less than 400 acres of ground to produce Washington's entire annual projected consumption.

There are individual farmers who plant more than 400 acres of wheat or corn every year. The whole weed crop could come from one big farm. The demand could better be met by 400 one acre farms or even 1600 quarter acre plots. My point is that it is an agricultural drop in the bucket. Don't take much land or a lot of farmers to produce a wicked lot of weed, cheap.

Exactly, Eastern Washington has great weather in the summer and there are lots of strains that flower in 8 weeks...
 

yortbogey

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Exactly, Eastern Washington has great weather in the summer and there are lots of strains that flower in 8 weeks...


Exactly.....Yakima Valley = Apples , Winery, and now cannabis...
there is already thousands of acres of apples, pears, and vineyards....whats a couple 100 acres of pot....
just a drop in the bucket....
 

VenturaHwy

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Here's an article -

Federal prosecutors will crack down on recreational marijuana dispensaries and growers even in states where they are legal, U.S. drug czar Gil Kerlikowske told a Canadian news magazine this week. The statement appears to be the first from a federal official to state explicitly that the federal government will prosecute dispensaries and producers once they are licensed in Washington and Colorado.

The threat of not only shutdown, but harsh federal mandatory minimum jail sentences of ten years just for marijuana distribution — and as high as 85 years if other associated charges are lobbed on – would no doubt have a chilling effect on the recreational marijuana industry, and thwart state efforts to experiment with new approaches to achieving public health and safety goals in the wake of the failed War on Drugs. It remains to be seen, however, whether federal agents would make significant use of their prosecutorial discretion, or merely retain the right to prosecute in very limited circumstances.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...nd-colorado-marijuana-distributors/?mobile=nc
 

DreamsofTesla

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perhaps he plans on using illegal aliens to do his trimming? do you think Americans would manicure weed all day for minimum wage?

I'm American, I'll do it. Especially if I can get high all day and listen to music while I do it. Hell yeah. I've had much worse jobs.

<3 Tesla
 

Chunkypigs

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So much for that $60 ounce.....
Obama moves to keep profit in the black market.
this is like a govt bailout for weed growers everywhere, keep the prices high.


U.S. Drug Czar: Federal Prosecutors Will Go After Washington And Colorado Marijuana Distributors

Federal prosecutors will crack down on recreational marijuana dispensaries and growers even in states where they are legal, U.S. drug czar Gil Kerlikowske told a Canadian news magazine this week. The statement appears to be the first from a federal official to state explicitly that the federal government will prosecute dispensaries and producers once they are licensed in Washington and Colorado. During an interview on 20/20, President Obama told Barbara Walters only that the federal government has “bigger fish to fry” than going after recreational users, but did not address those who produce or distribute marijuana. MacLean’s reports:

Q: In the November elections, two states—Washington and Colorado—voted to legalize marijuana for recreational use. President Obama has said that the U.S. government has “bigger fish to fry” than to go after recreational users in states where it is legal. Where do things stand with regard to producers and distributors of marijuana, which is still illegal under federal law?

A: You’ll continue to see enforcement against distributors and large-scale growers as the Justice Department has outlined. They will use their limited resources on those groups and not on going after individual users.

While the questioner rightly points out that distribution and production of marijuana are illegal under federal law (as is possession), Washington and Colorado’s laws do explicitly make both production and distribution of marijuana legal under state law if the entities are licensed and follow regulations.

In states where medical marijuana is legal, federal prosecutors and Drug Enforcement Administration agents have ratcheted up crackdowns of those distributing medical marijuana in seeming compliance with state laws. And Kerlikowske’s statement suggests the federal government will take the same approach to the recreational marijuana laws, in spite of growing public support for state marijuana legalization in the wake of the November election.

Neither Attorney General Eric Holder, nor other representatives from the DOJ or DEA have spoken publicly about their planned approach, other than to issue a statement immediately following the ballot initiatives’ passage saying that enforcement of federal law “remains unchanged.”

The threat of not only shutdown, but harsh federal mandatory minimum jail sentences of ten years just for marijuana distribution — and as high as 85 years if other associated charges are lobbed on – would no doubt have a chilling effect on the recreational marijuana industry, and thwart state efforts to experiment with new approaches to achieving public health and safety goals in the wake of the failed War on Drugs. It remains to be seen, however, whether federal agents would make significant use of their prosecutorial discretion, or merely retain the right to prosecute in very limited circumstances.

The best way to eliminate this threat would be to amend the federal Controlled Substances Act, which the executive branch remains responsible for enforcing. Members of Congress proposed bills last week to regulate and tax marijuana like alcohol in those states where it is legal. Last session, other bills proposed simply exempting those states with marijuana laws from the Controlled Substances Act, and Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said he was open to decriminalizing marijuana. But given congressional inaction on absolutely everything, it will likely fall to prosecutors to decide how the law gets applied.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...nd-colorado-marijuana-distributors/?mobile=nc
 

yerboyblue

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$40 to $60 an ounce retail? I envision that Washington will be the only state that will not lay off any postal workers.
 

DreamsofTesla

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People will soon learn that commercially grown anything is inferior to a nurtured crop. You will see me with a sac from "Joe Blow" with the 2k watt grow. Before I buy some Marc Emery warehouse "beasters".

My sentiments exactly. The big money players think this will be just another liquor or tobacco. However, there's no real substantive difference between beer and whiskey in terms of the high, just the taste and belly fullness. But drunk is drunk.

With marijuana, look how finicky we all are. How many different strains are being grown out in these forums? How fussy are marijuana users about curing and trimming? There will always be beaster buyers just like people do buy Bud Light. But they won't be able to squeeze out artisanal growers. They think they will, because they don't understand this community.

:woohoo:
 

mwz

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Outdoors and under a green house. I think it's realistic purely because where i live electricity prices aren't getting any cheaper. The sun's energy, however, is free!! :D Better for business using free energy! :D

People will pay for the 'taste'. Maybe I'm just a bit of a hippy, but in my opinion (and it's just my belief) the taste is better when it's grown outdoors, in soil (connected to the Earth) and with love. :D
 

mwz

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Doesnt anyone realize marc is irrelevant at this point? Hes grasping at "please pay attention to me" straws, as usual.

I do agree with this. Some people I meet dislike him, whereas others see him as a freedom fighter. Personally, I think anyone who fights for what they believe in deserves a good hard backslap, even if they are a bit irrelevant.

So, here's to you Marc ... /backslap :D
 
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I have good relations with a husband and wife, where I have done all the work on their mansion in Mass.
This guy owned a huge insurance company and sold it off for like 100 million.
We talked about the dispenceries that are gonna be popping up and he said he would invest 2 million dollars when the laws are fine tuned and the business plan is layed out with lawyers and the like.
I would be the man in charge of it all, except the money/investment.
I sure hope this happens in a year or two. It would be a dream come true.
 

vertigo0007

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I have good relations with a husband and wife, where I have done all the work on their mansion in Mass.
This guy owned a huge insurance company and sold it off for like 100 million.
We talked about the dispenceries that are gonna be popping up and he said he would invest 2 million dollars when the laws are fine tuned and the business plan is layed out with lawyers and the like.
I would be the man in charge of it all, except the money/investment.
I sure hope this happens in a year or two. It would be a dream come true.

Dont hold your breath dude. Big pharma will have it all in a year or 2 anyway.
 

RubeGoldberg

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Doesnt anyone realize marc is irrelevant at this point? Hes grasping at "please pay attention to me" straws, as usual.

fucking this

"prince of pot" the guy hasn't been relevant for a long time, and his stupid wife always gets interviewed for anything related to pot like she has a clue.

Fuck egomaniacs hijacking marijuana for attention, i'd rather see lawyers and doctors interviewed.
 

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