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Aliens, yay or nay?

Aliens, yay or nay?

  • Absolutely no

    Votes: 18 4.8%
  • Maybe, i'm not sure

    Votes: 43 11.5%
  • Of course, there are aliens out there!

    Votes: 312 83.6%

  • Total voters
    373

420mike

Member
With all of the evidence from the Sumerian texts to the pyramids of Egypt and South America, there is no doubt in my mind that Aliens have visited us in the past. IMO it is also likely that they have influenced our religious beliefs as well.
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
Veteran
Pyramids are evidence of aliens?

Please explain. Did aliens carve blocks out of stone with simple chisels, then transport it several miles using logs and ropes and then drag the blocks up an earthen ramp in order to place them? Because we've already demonstrated that it would be easy to do so with no special technology.
 

420mike

Member
Pyramids are evidence of aliens?

Please explain. Did aliens carve blocks out of stone with simple chisels, then transport it several miles using logs and ropes and then drag the blocks up an earthen ramp in order to place them? Because we've already demonstrated that it would be easy to do so with no special technology.

It has been proven that the precision cuts and the extremem weight of the material was beyond the technology of ancient Egypt. Also how is it that the Pyramids of Giza are aligned precisely with Orions Belt? Also much of the egyptian heiroglyphs depict craft and creatures that were not associated with that time period.
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
Veteran
It has been proven that the precision cuts and the extremem weight of the material was beyond the technology of ancient Egypt. Also how is it that the Pyramids of Giza are aligned precisely with Orions Belt? Also much of the egyptian heiroglyphs depict craft and creatures that were not associated with that time period.

Answers in order: a) You're wrong. b) People used stars for navigation back then. c) Debunked.

You guys will apparently believe anything.

According to many UFO enthusiasts, the Temple of Osiris at Abydos contains definitive proof of advanced ancient technology. The glyphs seem to include depictions of a helicopter, a jet plane and some sort of flying saucer. Unfortunately for believers, the glyphs are a result of erosion and actual replacement and re-carving of hieroglyphics. The original text is part of the titulary of Seti I, that had been changed to reference Ramsses II. Modifying and defacing inscriptions was common in ancient Egypt’s history, and in this case yielded some strange-looking results. Even stranger, UFO enthusiasts do not find it odd that there are no other examples like this in the thousands of hieroglyphs discovered elsewhere, nor is there any mention of flying machines anywhere in Egyptian literature.


http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/the-pyramids/

note that the information in the link above contains REFERENCES to source material. They don't expect you to take their word for it.
 

420mike

Member
There is evidence but apparently your mind isnt open to it and thats ok.

Nasca Lines
Ancient Indian Vimanas and other stories in the Mahabarata
Puma Punku
Multiple biblical stories

The Mayan Popol Vuh states, "Men came from the stars, knowing everything, and they examined the four corners of the sky and the Earth's round surface."

The Mayan Chilam Balam states, "Beings descended from the sky in flying vessels... white men in flying rings, who can touch the sky."

The Piri Reis Map
The medieval map known as the Piri Reis Map allegedly shows the Earth as it is seen from above. How is this possible in midieval times?

This is only the tip of the iceberg. Absolute evidence? No.. But a very strong argument for Alien visitation.
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
Veteran
There is evidence but apparently your mind isnt open to it and thats ok.

Nasca Lines
Ancient Indian Vimanas and other stories in the Mahabarata
Puma Punku
Multiple biblical stories

Naming things doesn't make them evidence.

I took the time to post a link debunking your last non-evidence. Please do me the same courtesy and provide links, pictures or citations from credible publications.

THe bible also mentions unicorns, talking donkeys and serpents. Also, the bible claims god made plants before he made the sun. I'm going to go ahead and cross the bible off the "credible evidence" list for you.

This is only the tip of the iceberg. Absolute evidence? No.. But a very strong argument for Alien visitation.

Star Wars claims that Darth Vader is Luke's father. Absolute evidence? No, but a very strong argument for Jedi boning.
 

420mike

Member
Its obvious that your mind is not open to this sort of thing and thats fine. One day I am sure we will know for sure but until then, this is what we have. Not going to sit and try to convince a closed mind about the existance of something that said mind seems to be dead set against in the first place. I am sure if you are truly interested, you will find the time to research the subject.
 

DreamsofTesla

Member
Veteran
I try to keep an open mind about UFOs. Really open. If they are real, they could be our future selves time traveling.

That's what my favorite alien, Bashar, says about his channeler Darryl Anka -- he's one of Darryl's "future lives". Though he makes it very clear -- past, present, and future are illusions created by consciousness. Everything exists all at once.

And I don't even have any weed!

[youtubeif]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb1u9zOPwiQ[/youtubeif]

(<>..<>)

<3 Tesla
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
Veteran
Wasn't talking to you Hemp. I know this is probably hard for you to understand, but there's a whole bunch of people in this thread claiming to *KNOW* that Aliens are visiting the planet.

It is the people who BELIEVE (as opposed to those who speculate, like the two of us) that I am asking for evidence from.

Smoke a fucking bowl, man.

I would but unfortunately a case of powdery mildew severely limited my last crop and it will be another month before my current crop is ready. So alas I am currently without a bowl to smoke.

Yeah I know you weren't speaking to me specifically but it shouldn't really matter, belief is just another way of saying something is one's personal opinion and contrary to your belief nobody has to prove their opinion to anyone else. If anyone made the claim that they know for a fact aliens from another planet have been here perhaps you would have grounds for your insistence on proof but for them to say they believe something does not require them to prove anything other then that's what they believe and so their post of their belief should be all the proof you need. I guess with you posting such intellectual gems as "blah blah blah" I should have know the point of my previous post would go right over your head. Maybe you've been smoking too many bowls?
 

AVG 2.0

Member
most folks don't think critically enough to understand the difference between belief and knowledge. this is why i'll usually tell people i'm an atheist, when what i mean is that i'm agnostic because it is impossible to prove a negative hypothesis. it's just easier than having to discuss epistemology with strangers.
 

AVG 2.0

Member
this mofo smarter than erryone on this forum put together.
pretty funny for an egghead too.

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bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
Veteran
Anti, r u purposely confusing evidence with proof or what?

we have evidence that can indicate alien visitations; whether such evidence entails proof is another matter.

do I think we have proof aliens visit or visited the earth? no.

do I think we have evidence of such? sure.

is there a need or want to believe in the absence of proof? no, the alien subject is not a matter of faith, not a religion lets say.

I saw a UFO, do I know if it was alien? no. do I know if it was man-made? no.

is it evidence that may suggest that non-terrestrial technology is reaching our planet? yes; why? because we do not have any such technology, at least not openly.

so the evidence of sightings either mean that we are visited by extra-terrestrials or that the governments have a hidden technology and are able to keep it hidden.

so it either makes you a crazy dude for thinking there are aliens visiting the earth, or a crazy conspiracy dude.
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
Veteran
most folks don't think critically enough to understand the difference between belief and knowledge. this is why i'll usually tell people i'm an atheist, when what i mean is that i'm agnostic because it is impossible to prove a negative hypothesis. it's just easier than having to discuss epistemology with strangers.

Nearly every other atheist in the world (including me) is right there on that page with you.

It's very easy, if you think about it.

AGNOSTIC is a statement about KNOWLEDGE. You "don't know".

ATHEIST is a rejection of theism. Theism is a claim about belief.

If your answer to "Does god exist" is "I don't know" then you are likely also an Atheist. Most of us don't believe in things we don't have knowledge of.
 
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