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hempyftw

hempyftw

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For real.

For real.

I have heard many people hate the uni seals.

Someone had a great post about them though. He said that when he sanded the holes smooth and drilled at a proper 90* angle he was able to be 100% leak-less with the things. He attributed it all to how well the rubber gasket/oring sealed with the container.

I don't see why you couldn't just use big bulkheads though?

You could play around with some plastic welding! Never ventured into that one, although I've thought about it.

I'm sure you'll figure it out!
 
Arminius

Arminius

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When I built my RDWC/UC system I just used the 1" bulkheads for $3 a pop, at the local Hydro Whore. Up your flow, and 1" should be plenty. Also, I would just throw one good commercial grade air stone in the epi and should be good.
 
Arminius

Arminius

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No clogging issues at 1", but definitely using 1/2", I had to add a screen on those fittings.
 
Harry Gypsna

Harry Gypsna

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Hey there.... those tubs are a nice find, I wish I could find something like those...
Regarding them draining into each other. I wouldn't cut that whole square out, just cut a slot at each end slightly bigger than those feet on the bottom, and drill the feet out. That way you won't mess with the structural strength of the tubs too much, particularly the lowest tub if it has to hold the weight of several tubs and plants above it.
 
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Ichabod Crane

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If I were to cut or drill holes in those containers I would make a template. That way they would be interchangeable from stack to stack. Just make a flat plate with two boards to line it up with the corner of the container. Cut the slot you want in the plate and trace it with a marker to get consistency from container to container.
 
farmhouse cat

farmhouse cat

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Harry Gypsna said:
Hey there.... those tubs are a nice find, I wish I could find something like those...
Regarding them draining into each other. I wouldn't cut that whole square out, just cut a slot at each end slightly bigger than those feet on the bottom, and drill the feet out. That way you won't mess with the structural strength of the tubs too much, particularly the lowest tub if it has to hold the weight of several tubs and plants above it.
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Thats what i was thinking. That way each container would seat snug.

Also a frame out of 2x2's for each wall to keep it nice and sturdy, which could also be used to staple the reflectix to.

Lots of possibilities!
 
farmhouse cat

farmhouse cat

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Ichabod Crane said:
If I were to cut or drill holes in those containers I would make a template. That way they would be interchangeable from stack to stack. Just make a flat plate with two boards to line it up with the corner of the container. Cut the slot you want in the plate and trace it with a marker to get consistency from container to container.
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Great idea! I am not looking forward to cutting 80 freakin holes. Actually 64 but ya know...

Not to mention feed lines UC piping etc. MY lord! is this an undertaking of grand perportions!
 
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RM - aquagrower

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They would work in both applications. Don't worry about the (stainless) strainer, as it can be left off, leaving you with an open hole.

I used then to make all drain connections to tubs in my old aqua system (details of which can be seen in an old thread titled "Aquaponics Rocks".

That system rocked steady for 'bout 6 years.
 
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farmhouse cat

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hempyftw said:
I know it might not meet some peoples standards to call your rig hp.

But I don't think it's fair to call it lp either. There should be something in-between, *I knight you mp, hehe* I could guarantee your getting a much better spray pattern with that pump, than I'm getting with small pond pumps. When I upgraded to a 1500 gph pump I saw a dramatic increase in small mist droplets, rather than the somewhat stream I get now.

I think the spray is being held in by my small tubes though, not enough space for it to float around, it just beads up everywhere. 5 gal buckets was my next thought, an some say they are too small, but clearly your rocking it! That's why I"m kind of curious how your roots develop. I know the feeling of healthy roots being stained by nutes!

There has to be some price point where getting a more powerful pump just won't benefit your root system enough to make it worth it. I was looking at the shurflo and flojet pumps for when I go hp, do they have a more powerful model at harbor freight? I might have to go check that out tomorrow.

Have you ever looked at different nozzles? I think your using the ez clone type red ones right? I think they suggest like a minimum of 15 psi for those or something. They make some "better" ones that are for 30psi. I forget where I was reading about them. They might be the digs. Might be a cheap upgrade for ya. I'll link them if I come across them.

Ya I'm not someone who likes to follow rules or standards. As long as the roots are hanging in the air and getting misted, I'm accomplishing what I want. Who cares if some of the roots sit on the bottom of the container. I have a bunch of concrete trays left over from ebb and flow tables I built. I thought about making tops for them to do aero in, like pirate, if you ever read his thread.

Those ladies looked beautiful! You surely have rocked the tubes before. Thanks for stopping by the GJ, it's been pretty slow over there! Just me and my ladies hanging out hehe.
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Sorry bro. I totally missed this.

It's all about evolution. I started with the fence posts in horizontal growing and reached the ceiling, or so i thought. If i knew then what i know now, then i could have easily upped my yields by at least 25%. I used to get at my best 24 oz per system/ 1k light....

But... i was limited to the square footprint of a flat grow. And being in the highest priced electricity state in the country i needed to figure a way to get the yields up without braking the bank on electricity.

This is why i ventured into this vert forum.


Now...I figured why can't i just put up vertical walls like my flat aero grows and surround the bulbs. Easier said then done. And it aint babyshit like they say. It takes work. And runs under the belt to learn to dial a sideways canopy. (need DHF to come here and spend a few months) i would keep him knee deep in barbeque and fun the whole time) but that's another story.

Ok.... forgive me, i ran out of vodka... be back in a minute.
 
hempyftw

hempyftw

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farmhouse cat said:
Sorry bro. I totally missed this.

It's all about evolution. I started with the fence posts in horizontal growing and reached the ceiling, or so i thought. If i knew then what i know now, then i could have easily upped my yields by at least 25%. I used to get at my best 24 oz per system/ 1k light....

But... i was limited to the square footprint of a flat grow. And being in the highest priced electricity state in the country i needed to figure a way to get the yields up without braking the bank on electricity.

This is why i ventured into this vert forum.


Now...I figured why can't i just put up vertical walls like my flat aero grows and surround the bulbs. Easier said then done. And it aint babyshit like they say. It takes work. And runs under the belt to learn to dial a sideways canopy. (need DHF to come here and spend a few months) i would keep him knee deep in barbeque and fun the whole time) but that's another story.

Ok.... forgive me, i ran out of vodka... be back in a minute.
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How bout the questions/comments in the quote?

Have you tried any other nozzles? Any input on pump/price/performance comment?

I agree 100%. Vert is the way to go. I've got another 4k vert aero room in the works myself.
 
farmhouse cat

farmhouse cat

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Ok...didnt make it to the store, but had some Kahula, so i made a pot of coffee... good shit!
Along with some pipeloads of LVPK to get the mind going.

Sooo...... The way i see it. We can either go High pressure or low pressure. It's all in the pump and the mister. What i have now is a LP sprayer that dribbles out spray. (works great) but ... limits us to LP type roots. LP can and does produce some great results.

But to improve........

I know of a pump and nozzles that can and will provide the true aero results that a true HP system will provide.


This was what i was talking about, when i said "wait till ya see what i have coming"


I dont make distinctions between what is true aero or faux aero. (faux aero being roots in a confined space but still get 50 micron droplets to thrive) which iv'e seen evidence that do spectacular! Who needs a huge container?

The ability to control spray time with HP aero to dictate what type of plant structure you want is unbelievable. What i learned is: Shorter spray times (3 seconds) with longer intervals (3-4 minutes) with high pressure low volume misters will produce short tight internode spaced plants (perfect for SOG) .

And longer spray times (30 sec or more) with shorter intervals produce taller plants with larger internode spacing.

Imagine a HP vert system like im designing, with the ability to control spray times for what you want. This is what im going for.
 
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