KonradZuse
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90$ haha gtfo with that.... I personally hate budder, it's a horrible consistency, oil ftw.
98% THC Budder fact or fiction?
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90$ haha gtfo with that.... I personally hate budder, it's a horrible consistency, oil ftw.
Wow, isn't that more than gold?! Up there w/lighting expensive cigars w/Benjamins.
KonradZuse
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In non-med states you could charge 100 a g(120$ a quarter and you usually would get a little more than a g with that).... I normally get it for 35-50 a g from a buddy..
woah thats pretty cool, did the finished product have a roachy taste?
hexane and butane are pretty much similar right only with hexane you can do a full wash with iso then purify with hexane ,is there much benifet to do that as aposed to just making BHO.
i guess hexanes only avail in regent grade thru labs and stuff eh?
Heard THC Bomb OG from Van Nuys has a crazy stick factor, looks like it'd make real good oil. Maybe the trimmings are good too.
Yes, a little like eu de ashtray, until I washed it in ethanol and filtered it through activated charcoal.
oh nice charcoal, very useful stuff ;I heard that you can also take a iso wash and run it thru a carbon filter and it can actually lighten up the color.
Id like to experiment a little with iso washes , when using a charcoal filter would carbon that is in carbon filters be suitable?
Id like to experiment a little with iso washes , when using a charcoal filter would carbon that is in carbon filters be suitable?
Probably, depending on particle size, but lab grade in granules is relatively cheap and you can also get activated charcoal for aquarium filters in granules.
KonradZuse
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I saw someone make red oil on here using a carbon filter...
You can make concentrates with many solvents.
Butane, Iso, Hexane, Oxygen, Co2, Naptha, grain alcohol, ethanol, etc
red oil is cool; lots of solvents to choose from but iso is the easiest for me to get ,i can get a 5 gal drum of 99% for around 100$
KonradZuse
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It's also one of the hardest to make good oil from. You need an extremely low contact time it seems...
yea defiently, too long and it leeches the chlorophyll out into the oil ,good thing about iso is it really strips everything good from the plant matter.Id be interested to see if a charcoal filter would maybe filter out some chorophyll? Really the way to go is do a soak in iso with dank buds not worrying if the chrophyll leachs into the oil then purify with a non polar solvent as it wont be dissolved into the non polar solvent ( hexane,butane,ect), the trouble is sourcing a good non polar solvent.
The sequence of "polar - non-polar" is good for the extraction of pipe resin or hashish, where almost no chlorophyll.
To extract from plant material, it is better to use a sequence of "non-polar - polar" to initially minimize contamination by chlorophyll.
Purification of the extract from chlorophyll, it's a long and difficult process, which may be accompanied by loss of useful resin, if you do it with activated charcoal.
It is much better not to get dirty, so you do not waste time and energy on cleaning.
To extract from plant material, it is better to use a sequence of "non-polar - polar" to initially minimize contamination by chlorophyll.
Purification of the extract from chlorophyll, it's a long and difficult process, which may be accompanied by loss of useful resin, if you do it with activated charcoal.
It is much better not to get dirty, so you do not waste time and energy on cleaning.
I've used Norit A (the standard lab decolorizing carbon, along with Darco) powder (325 mesh) a few times with extracts from nonpolars, but it didn't help much that I could see.
The standard test for decolorizing carbons is with brown sugar or molasses - I've never found anything sold in stores, especially pet stores, that will decolorize weak solutions at all; a pinch of the Norit shows obvious lightening, after filtering.
Activated carbon is a very nonspecific thing, with different methods of preparation for different purposes, adsorbing molecules of different sizes on different sized pores. Some will be a mixture of pore sizes, other brands very small or large.
The standard test for decolorizing carbons is with brown sugar or molasses - I've never found anything sold in stores, especially pet stores, that will decolorize weak solutions at all; a pinch of the Norit shows obvious lightening, after filtering.
Activated carbon is a very nonspecific thing, with different methods of preparation for different purposes, adsorbing molecules of different sizes on different sized pores. Some will be a mixture of pore sizes, other brands very small or large.
Olifant
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Ion exchange resins might work in cleaning up extracts made with more polar solvents but just a thought.
One thing which causes me to disbelieve those figures is that 1 gram of 100% pure THCA under 100% yield conditions (unlikely) will only decarboxylate to about .85 grams of THC, meaning an undecarboxylated sample of 100% pure THCA is only 85% pure THC because of the weight of the carboxylic acid group (using the term "pure" very loosely). Thus for something to test with a gc/ms as 98% pure it must be fully decarboxylated, and as best as I can tell, high purity fully decarboxylated THC will not produce these more easily handled forms such as "budder". One either needs a high content of THCA, or a high level of impurity.
One thing which causes me to disbelieve those figures is that 1 gram of 100% pure THCA under 100% yield conditions (unlikely) will only decarboxylate to about .85 grams of THC, meaning an undecarboxylated sample of 100% pure THCA is only 85% pure THC because of the weight of the carboxylic acid group (using the term "pure" very loosely). Thus for something to test with a gc/ms as 98% pure it must be fully decarboxylated, and as best as I can tell, high purity fully decarboxylated THC will not produce these more easily handled forms such as "budder". One either needs a high content of THCA, or a high level of impurity.
Waxmasta Flex
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i stillllllllllll say that the original message was just misinterpreted.lol
they meant 98% CANNABINOIDS...no?
i mean i dont think 99% d9 is poss unless acetate or something i dunno..
i DO know i have had several samples tested and the highest DEF hit over 95% cannabinoids...
but it was only like 89ish on the d9 rest was cbd cbn etc...
soooooo
its MY op that they had some tits strains...
i find it interesting that many people while discussing the bking lore say he used one strain...some say several...id like to think he was just making good extracts out of whatever was avail...
although if one found the perfect strain for it id certainly think one would wanna use that continually...
89 thc 4-5 cbd 1-3 cbn plus others??? now u ARE approaching 99% but NOT just thc....a COMBO
again, this is my half cent on budderking 99% hoopla...
thats it thats all...
they meant 98% CANNABINOIDS...no?
i mean i dont think 99% d9 is poss unless acetate or something i dunno..
i DO know i have had several samples tested and the highest DEF hit over 95% cannabinoids...
but it was only like 89ish on the d9 rest was cbd cbn etc...
soooooo
its MY op that they had some tits strains...
i find it interesting that many people while discussing the bking lore say he used one strain...some say several...id like to think he was just making good extracts out of whatever was avail...
although if one found the perfect strain for it id certainly think one would wanna use that continually...
89 thc 4-5 cbd 1-3 cbn plus others??? now u ARE approaching 99% but NOT just thc....a COMBO
again, this is my half cent on budderking 99% hoopla...
thats it thats all...
montroller
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I wonder what the genetics to that watty kush were. I know the mother has been lost which totally sucks but I heard that the bubba kush and purple kush coming from from that area, maybe from TUG, is supposed to be just as good for concentrates. Maybe it is just TUG's growing style?
I just wish I could try and compare the BK budder to the Cali wax.
I just wish I could try and compare the BK budder to the Cali wax.
Kushed_
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How did you prepare the roaches?
Whoever gets 95% much less 98% without quality chromatography should verify with a more expensive lab that uses competently-operated GC/MS or HPLC.
Can dispensaries sell distilled and/or chromatographically purified extracts, and, is there a market for them? Someone must be making and selling these, unless you can't, in which case they'd be sold as something else. Either way, the real deal comes with real proof - full analysis documentation from a serious lab.
Can dispensaries sell distilled and/or chromatographically purified extracts, and, is there a market for them? Someone must be making and selling these, unless you can't, in which case they'd be sold as something else. Either way, the real deal comes with real proof - full analysis documentation from a serious lab.
I just broke them up and dumped them paper and all in the alcohol I had been cleaning pipes in.
