clubs are taking over profit margins

[stonedstoner]

do you guys (especially growers) think some of these dispensaries are fucking ridiculous? i feel like they are taking the entire margin from growers and are fucking over the patients with high prices. i find it so fucked up that clubs are like "yea, we don't pay more than 2k." and then you look at their prices on the board and the motherfuckers are selling 8ths for 50+ bucks. it's ridiculous. they are supposed to be nonprofit. one dude was like "yea, if i pick that up at that price we would only be making 7 grand in profit" and i'm thinking "wtf? how can you be saying only?" that's so much profit off of a single pound. it's more than 100% profit and these assholes claim they are running a nonprofit. it's ridiculous. what are your thoughts?

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Bad apples spoil the cart. Commerce works best when no single entity corrupts it's margin.

 

[benzo]

i hella feel ya stonedstoner. its quite ridiculous up in my neck of the woods

 

[FunkBomb]

If the buyer will pay it, why not? To me its all the same: selfish gene.

Not everyone has the luxury of going to a nice dispensary to pick up their favorite weed. Even with the "legality" at the state level it doesn't matter because federal law overrides state law. So the DEA will keep raiding people, and attorney generals will keep doing what Uncle Sam pays them to. It's as simple as that.

-Funk

 

[Tudo]

I don't know what it costs to own a dispensary and how much the lawyers, the state etc cost. I bet a lot though.

I've got some really good OG that cost me $150/oz from a grower dude in norcal .It's on par with some of the weed costing $50/8th but what are his expenses?

Is #50 the magic post that allows me an avitar?

 

[Galactic]

Re: clubs are taking over profit margins

Anyone who has ever ran a successful retail business knows you have to double the price of everything that walks in the door or there will not be a door much longer.

I do understand the frustration for patients having to pay tough prices because of the market and sympathize but its just bad logic to blame the operators of these clubs. Just stop patronizing them!

Grow your own for that excellent price then.

 

[Mr_Grimbo]

Well, the fact is if they are only paying the growers 2k, they are robbing them blind... Period. Me, I hope it doesn't go legal here, I want my dealer to stay in business, I like the weed he sells me... If it goes legal, somebody who bought the middleman rights comes in and skims everything good off the top, and the middle. I have seen pics and reports of the stuff you all buy at your 'non-profits' and quite frankly, for the same money, I would rather buy what I am buying now from my friends...

Mr. Grimbo

 

[DryNobBob]

you just hit the definition of the way it works in a med state. The patient pays out the ass for mediocre at the clubs, landlords won't let em grow their own. Black market is still the best choice for quality, unless you do your own. I'd just like a chance to get some of that top shelf shit, lol, fore it gets shipped out. But whatever you do, don't take ANY of the free meds they give out, or use your scope, you'll need it.

Well, the fact is if they are only paying the growers 2k, they are robbing them blind... Period. Me, I hope it doesn't go legal here, I want my dealer to stay in business, I like the weed he sells me... If it goes legal, somebody who bought the middleman rights comes in and skims everything good off the top, and the middle. I have seen pics and reports of the stuff you all buy at your 'non-profits' and quite frankly, for the same money, I would rather buy what I am buying now from my friends...

Mr. Grimbo

 

[vapedg13]

i sell to um for $6.25 a g... they resellin at $10-12 a g

 

[medmaker420]

negotiation works two ways

some understand what that means and others complain

if there is a profit margin then there is wiggle room

it just depends on who sells who on the donation amount

now if it was a regulated and mandated state price per ounce or pound and it being unfair then I would have issues but anything that can be negotiated is fair game in my book.

if someone sells a pound for $5 and someone then resells it for $3k who is at fault?


btw to the OP

I think you need to research what NON PROFIT actually means because trust me there are plenty of NOT FOR PROFIT businessmen driving something other than hondas these days LOL

 

[Scottish Research]

A grower is considered a wholesaler in this relationship. Retailers like whole foods for example add a 35% to 40% min margin on goods placed on shelf. Add another 40% the distributor expects. It sucks.


R.Fortune

 

[resinryder]

There needs to be a growers union. That way growers could set a better price or the clubs get no product. Of course there would have to be quality control measures in place to ensure the end customer gets the best product they can. Low ball the grower and screw the customer seems to be the way the dispensaries operate.

 

[BasementGrower]

Well, the fact is if they are only paying the growers 2k, they are robbing them blind... Period. Me, I hope it doesn't go legal here, I want my dealer to stay in business, I like the weed he sells me... If it goes legal, somebody who bought the middleman rights comes in and skims everything good off the top, and the middle. I have seen pics and reports of the stuff you all buy at your 'non-profits' and quite frankly, for the same money, I would rather buy what I am buying now from my friends...

Mr. Grimbo

ya . i say buy localy and buy organic..

u never hear hey this is organic.. with any of the bud people are selling as headys coming from CALI supposedly lol its just some bullshit name.. if it didnt already get changed 10 times before it got to u . not to mention.. proly has mite shit everywere. or other pest shit.. or was grown with shti that has carcinogens.. y do u think humbolt countys shit is all off the shelves? and then people think they arent using the shit out there.. lol

butt hey thats just me.. i stopped buying buds because of this.. i was called today saying. 250 a zip for some Sour Kush.. 175 a zip for some no name shit.. that looks half way decent.. but still i started to smoke it.. and it was crackle and poppin.. and burning black ash. iunno tasted like garbage that wasnt cured properly. iunno i havent found any buds.. that ive been happy to buy.. i usually will smoke roach weed before i buy bud in between harvests.

 

[BasementGrower]

There needs to be a growers union. That way growers could set a better price or the clubs get no product. Of course there would have to be quality control measures in place to ensure the end customer gets the best product they can. Low ball the grower and screw the customer seems to be the way the dispensaries operate.

thats exactly correct.. thats y i dont want it legal. fuck that.. keep it illegal.. i rather sell it at the same prices the clubs do.. and not have to deal with a bunch of people telling u that your hard work and shit is worth nothing.. but then u walk in there and there selling it for 50-70 an 8th.. ? fuck that shit. how can clubs sit there and say o we can make more on the product then an illegal dealer is going to make for profit off the bud.. but oo ya were compasionate to ur medical needs.. ya fuckin right..

say u buy a zip for 250.. sell 8ths . u make 150 profit. these guys are paying 150 a zip.. and making 250 profit. ! and thats supposed to be a compassionate business? come the fuck on already.. u greedy fucks. if u can buy the same bud from the club for 300 a zip.. u better believe u can get it for 200 if u make the right connections. i say.. stop selling to clubs.. and some1 needs to take over the middle man position.. maybe like instead of having to open a club and pay all these fees.. y cant the growers just open a delivery service like a pizza place.?

 

[BasementGrower]

the grower or dealer.. but iunno i hate clubs. i wish clubs would just all get raided. fuck legal.. who cares.. they just need to decriminalize it. and leave it be. its like what the hell are all these people thinking.

 

[Galactic]

Re: clubs are taking over profit margins

Ya bg you should do that. Keep it illegal so you can sell at the same prices! Sell it yourself so you can deal with 28 people per oz who give you the respect for the hard work you do. See ya at the top homie!

 

[dkmonk]

In Northern Cali 1200 for a pound is about what the club is going to giving you for outdoor. They then sell is for 175 a half ounce. At least this is what my friend is getting. He is compassionate, but the club sure isn't.....

 

[ColoradoOG]

You know im not trying to knock you personally but this is my personal take on it.. I'm a very knowledgeable gardener. I have been part of this industry for along time. Ive spent alot of time and money on research. In fact ive spent far more on this than i did for my comp sci degree. I take my garden seriously. I personally train every plant, I hand trim, I work around toxic things(I do organic so dont assume im a chem guy) I dont get vacations, i dont get sick time, i dont get overtime. This is an everyday job. I dont get the life that many of you guys bitching do. I love this dont get me wrong but at times i miss the life of leaving work at work and play at home. I sometimes miss paying 60$ an 8th so i can just be lazy smoke and play video games all day. I do what i do and sacrifice my life so others can enjoy a safe and high quality product.

If you want to play the whole compassion card then why dont you dedicate your life like some of us have and then come talk to me. I dont know many millionare gardeners..At most the average is a middle class person that does not get to enjoy life like those who dont grow do. I would bitch about the greedy fucks that take all kinds of shortcuts, but in general someone who takes the dedication i do i would never ever bitch about.. I know WTF its like.

When i see cheap ass prices from someone i question what shortcuts did they take. I would pay 60 an 8th to someone who dedicated the time to do it right than to pay for some shit..Example look at mexican brick weed..you get what you pay for..and im sure those guys really cared about you and your health..Its funny people love cheap, thats why most our commercial shit from walmart is GMO or whatever else may be out there.

 

[AnnesRevenge]

lol @ clubs, there should be one giant outlet where many distributers go to sell their stuff like a farmers market... not some shit that you have to go through like buying from a liquor store

 

[Galactic]

Re: clubs are taking over profit margins

Clubs are not taking over profit margins.

Wholesalers/farmers have THEIR profit margin.

Retailers have THEIR profit margin.

It's symbiotic and requires cooperation for survival. If either party could do it alone, they would, and MANY DO. Whether its vegetables or bud.

I guarantee if avacado farmers,in Chile were not competitive, their avacados would be rotting on the docks. Or alternatively, you buds in your possession still.

Wal-Mart fucks wholesalers and muscles them, but I guarantee you wholesalers are eating better than without em.