Thx rrog, RH in the room is 50%. At this RH level how long it take to get from 68 to 61 approximatively?
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Thx rrog, RH in the room is 50%. At this RH level how long it take to get from 68 to 61 approximatively?
Normlfightr
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i like to go a little lower and do less burpin
Could drop that much in a day, if you're not careful. Personally I think it's important to drop as slow as you can. I just try and get to 68% kinda quick. Then sloooooowwww after that. That's just me. The faster you get to 61% the less curing maybe took place.
So you can get there as fast as you want.
So you can get there as fast as you want.
Yes indeed the slower the better. I'm surprise that some open the jar everyday. If I do that it dry too fast in a 50% RH room with 68f temp. Seems like the colder the better too. When the buds are at around 68% RH, I think 63f temp in a room with 55%RH, + a short burst every other day, give a good result. When U reach 63 to 60 U stop burst and a month after that the product is well cured. But thats 2 months cure, plus 7 to 15 days hang drying. Not for everyone. I'm wondering how some of the BIG commercial grower deal with this.
connollyr123456
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I am curing in my basement and looking at the humidity level it is sitting at about 29 %. What I am finding is that my plants are drying to quickly and I end up with a fluffy bag of great weed that doesn't have much wait. I keep getting complaints that the weed is way to dry, good quality but way to dry.
Any suggestions on slowing down the process without creating a mold problem?
I was thinking of storing in tightly sealed paper bags and opening them once a day to dry out a bit.
Any suggestions on slowing down the process without creating a mold problem?
I was thinking of storing in tightly sealed paper bags and opening them once a day to dry out a bit.
Depending if u on a budget or no. Might have to invest a bit. The best will be humidifier. Else, what u can do its hang the whole plant first, with out removing any fan leaves. Then once the fan leaves are dry, U remove them, and remove the buds from the stems. Leave the small and mid buds leaves at this point. Place then in plastic boxes as Tupperware for 2 to 5 days, open if it goes over 70% RH. Then, once the mid leaves are feels dry, trim the bud in cure in glass jar with out opening them everyday but once every 3 to 5 days, and for 10 minutes max. When U buds reach 65% U want to open as rare as u can untill it reach 60% RH.
U looking at slowing down ur drying process as much as u can. In this kind of dry environment such as yours, their is a great chance that ur buds will never see mold.
Hope this will help u achieve a better product.
maryjane481
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Add a couple of fan leaves to your mason jar. It will rehydrate your buds. It worked for me.
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javajeve
With very dry buds put it in a air seal jar and add some fresh bud thats wet in jar. That will moist it up with fresh buds in it and the curing will re-start again. this really works!!
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javajeve
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True. Read a little. It's covered in this thread several times, in detail. The issue is that once the Rh drops below 50%, enzymatic action stops and will not re-start.
I have previously postulated in this thread, that this could be due to the permanent destruction of secondary metabolites or plant enzymes. These are powerful molecules that are sensitive to degradation. This assessment is opinion on my part.
I have previously postulated in this thread, that this could be due to the permanent destruction of secondary metabolites or plant enzymes. These are powerful molecules that are sensitive to degradation. This assessment is opinion on my part.
I jar at 65% and burp once a week to get it down to 60%. Then I will burp once a week, but make sure to do it with humidity that is 60%. You want to turn over the o2 in the container as that is what helps to cure.
I have found that for me personally, using fruit rinds or fresh leaves messes with the fragrance of the product. So I prefer just water. If its a small amount, I will dip a q-tip in water and stick the dry end down in the week then close it up. If its in a larger container like a tupperware bin, then I get my hand wet with clean water and wipe the water across the lid getting it wet. Closing a moist papertowl in the lid also works fine.
As for drying too much, and re-hydrating to start back up the curing process, I don't know for sure. I have seen legitimate opinions supporting both sides. One thing for sure.. there is more bag appeal when you are at 60% versus 40% so that alone is worth re-hydrating.
I have found that for me personally, using fruit rinds or fresh leaves messes with the fragrance of the product. So I prefer just water. If its a small amount, I will dip a q-tip in water and stick the dry end down in the week then close it up. If its in a larger container like a tupperware bin, then I get my hand wet with clean water and wipe the water across the lid getting it wet. Closing a moist papertowl in the lid also works fine.
As for drying too much, and re-hydrating to start back up the curing process, I don't know for sure. I have seen legitimate opinions supporting both sides. One thing for sure.. there is more bag appeal when you are at 60% versus 40% so that alone is worth re-hydrating.
connollyr123456
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I have actually purchased 3 of these (X-Large Cvault Container - By Freshstor - Interior Dimension 6.5" x 3.5") which contain a humidity packet of 62% this will absorb or give off moisture till the contents reach 62% humidity. It works like a charm!
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D's
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High everyone this thread inspired me to make an account.
So much great info...but forgive me if this was stated.
Think of cannabis as a fine wine or fermented hops even moonshine mash.... only in the sense of when it's placed into the bottle. That is an activation point as well. Too moist or dry and it's true potential has been lost.
Has the exact %RH been discovered. And if so would they share.
I can climate control a drying room. I don't like in betweens.
Local RH gets as low as 18% so it's a must.
Hops Wine Mooshine Liquor Tobacco and Cigars all have been dialed in perfect.
For cannabis to be 60%-65% and even up to 70% to much variation for such a sensitive process.
My .02 fwiw.
Thanks for reading my post. D's
So much great info...but forgive me if this was stated.
Think of cannabis as a fine wine or fermented hops even moonshine mash.... only in the sense of when it's placed into the bottle. That is an activation point as well. Too moist or dry and it's true potential has been lost.
Has the exact %RH been discovered. And if so would they share.
I can climate control a drying room. I don't like in betweens.
Local RH gets as low as 18% so it's a must.
Hops Wine Mooshine Liquor Tobacco and Cigars all have been dialed in perfect.
For cannabis to be 60%-65% and even up to 70% to much variation for such a sensitive process.
My .02 fwiw.
Thanks for reading my post. D's
D's
Member
New guys take
New guys take
High everyone this thread inspired me to make an account.
So much great info...but forgive me if this was stated.
Think of cannabis as a fine wine or fermented hops even moonshine mash.... only in the sense of when it's placed into the bottle. That is an activation point as well. Too moist or dry and it's true potential has been lost.
Has the exact %RH been discovered. And if so would they share.
I can climate control a drying room. I don't like in betweens.
Local RH gets as low as 18% so it's a must.
Hops Wine Mooshine Liquor Tobacco and Cigars all have been dialed in perfect.
For cannabis to be 60%-65% and even up to 70% to much variation for such a sensitive process.
My .02 fwiw.
Thanks for reading my post. D's
New guys take
High everyone this thread inspired me to make an account.
So much great info...but forgive me if this was stated.
Think of cannabis as a fine wine or fermented hops even moonshine mash.... only in the sense of when it's placed into the bottle. That is an activation point as well. Too moist or dry and it's true potential has been lost.
Has the exact %RH been discovered. And if so would they share.
I can climate control a drying room. I don't like in betweens.
Local RH gets as low as 18% so it's a must.
Hops Wine Mooshine Liquor Tobacco and Cigars all have been dialed in perfect.
For cannabis to be 60%-65% and even up to 70% to much variation for such a sensitive process.
My .02 fwiw.
Thanks for reading my post. D's
Well to begin with, drying into the curing range assumes some long term storage but it really depends on your preferences - are you planning to put herb away to get better and to smoke later (like aging a fine wine) or does your consumption exceed production and you're just trying to get a smokeable product?
Obviously there is a scenario somewhere in the middle of what I outlined above, but you really have to determine what you want, and what is best for the way you ingest your herb.
If you vaporize, burn joints or use a one hitter pipe then what you ultimately prefer may differ greatly from what I like for my personal smoke from a small one hit bong (wait I can't call it that or I'll be banned from the head shop and I'll have to come back tomorrow with an expanded vocabulary
) or a larger bong.Personally, I like to smoke small one hit bongs when the herb is still in the 70% RH range - it gives me cool smoke that still has olfactory notes of young (uncured) herb that I enjoy.
For the vast majority of the herb that I grow, I follow the RH rules outlined in this thread for long term storage and I get a very mature product that smokes/vaporizes well and is stable in long term storage even though some of he experience is changed through aging/curing.
If you understand (and I think you do) how wine and spirits age over time, then this should make sense to you in the same way that a young Cabernet can be aggressive unless consumed with fatty food, but with some time in the cellar it can be a completely different experience and not require that food to enjoy as time in cellar/jar mellows and brings out different characteristics in the wine/herb.
greenops
Member
Hello Curing experts,
I managed to perfectly cure my previous two crops by following this thread.
My last harvest however might have been jarred a day or two too late. I hung them only for 4 -5 days when suddenly the stems were snapping when the buds were still moist the day before. As I manicured them I noticed couple calyxes break due to dryness. After manicuring I jarred them for half a day, the rH reached about 40-47% across several jars. I quickly put in some orange peel (small amount) to help bring rH up.
The day after most jars were around 70% - 77%. I took the peels out and since then I've been burping them for 2 weeks now and the rH decreased very steadily, now around 62 - 65%. Do you guys think I could have saved it, meaning is it curing?
I managed to perfectly cure my previous two crops by following this thread.
My last harvest however might have been jarred a day or two too late. I hung them only for 4 -5 days when suddenly the stems were snapping when the buds were still moist the day before. As I manicured them I noticed couple calyxes break due to dryness. After manicuring I jarred them for half a day, the rH reached about 40-47% across several jars. I quickly put in some orange peel (small amount) to help bring rH up.
The day after most jars were around 70% - 77%. I took the peels out and since then I've been burping them for 2 weeks now and the rH decreased very steadily, now around 62 - 65%. Do you guys think I could have saved it, meaning is it curing?
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