Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better

[Capital G]

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As long as you have a veg room you can pull 6 harvests a year (every 60 days)....12 lights x 1.5 lbs per = 18 lbs per harvest.....18 lbs x $2500 per = $45,000....$45,000 x 6 harvests = $270,000 per year before expenses...After expenses you will be making around $175,000 per year...Now thats a decxent living....Dont you think?....


Here in Socal its very easy to get a hold of a decent OG or Kush cut from any of the clubs or if you know someone...You should then be able to get $2500 per pound minimum easily over here!

This is a great visualization of why what I'm saying is easier to understand. I'm sure you have what the folks on here would call top quality. If each of the 18 were sure to be bought by one buyer all cash, would you knock off $500 per?

 

[Capital G]

Most backdoor deals won't be anywhere near aaa quality. ESP in the tenderloin

You missed everything I said smh...never said anything about deals in the tenderloin

 

[Yes4Prop215]

it all sounds good on paper but in reality its pretty tough to hit the 6 harvest per year mark, let alone 1.5 steady for most green rushers.... alot of new growers are barely hitting 1-1.5 every 2.5-3 months and not getting more than 2200 per LB since the quality aint that good...but whatever thats them, i got a friend who just started and can barely hit 1lb per light let alone the 60 day mark.. its taken me damn near 3 years to finally start dialing indoors a little better to where i can hit 1.5 consistently but still working on the 60 day cropping....since i do all the work myself it takes me about a week to harvest, tear down the room and get the newones into veg, then i usually let them veg another week in flower to while i organize trimming the processed herb, and deal with all the brokering and finding a home for the finished herb as well, plus i commonly let my OGs run 65-70 days so my harvest mark is almost 3 months which sucks.......thank god i dont grow indoors for profit its all OD for me and indoors for fun...ive thought many times about starting up a new 10-20 light room but when it comes down to it the numbers are so much easier to just find a property up north LTO or owner carry and go big open sun......i lost like 3 plants this year to root rot, barely hit 50% of potential harvest (ran 2 lb GSC instead of 4-5lb blue dreams) and STILL made a huge ROI.....indoors is just a shit load of work compared to outdoors.

 

[Capital G]

I'm all for whoever selling their buds for whatever price they like. I have a bachelor's in business admin. I know how a business should run and I grow like everyone else here. I've been growing since' 06 and I know my cost per unit is in the hundreds...I have someone running a small setup year round (1200w) for headstash. To much going on to baby sit grows. My point...having an understanding of economics...if lbs have a per unit cost of a few hundreds on a small scale grow...economics tells me the greater the production level the cheaper each individual unit is to produce. The grower should be seeing more than double if their units are priced at 2k per. Even if the unit production cost was 1k you're still gonna double up. There's a great profit margin for growers who wholesale, but if I listened to what people say in this thread it leads me to think there's inefficiency in the production process, if 2k per unit of top quality isn't profitable.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

^did you happen to have those numbers on per unit costs? would be interesting to hear, and with how many lights..

for me i pay about 800 in power per harvest total for 4kw of flower, thats with CARE energy discount, so 200 per light. than another 200 in trimming if i decide to hire trimmers. than maybe 50-100 in soil, nutes, water, and other various shit like the gas, paying $$ to dump soil, etc. so im already at 500 bucks per light and thats before i factor in the money for rent/mortgage on the growspot which is a huge cost alone.... so yea returns are still good but its no get rich quick scheme...margins are a shitload better than on a legal vineyard producing grapes, where 100k in investment will yield you 150k in gross revenue alone, whereas growing cannabis outdoors, 15 grand in soil and nutes can easily produce 100 LBs of outdoors...

 

[Capital G]

Listening to your comment it seems like there's a lot of ways to reduce production costs. You can definitely save quite a few grand streamlining things (some of the things you listed shouldnt be production costs). Now I don't know how much my unit cost is but if I did a perpetual for profit I'm sure I could get procost to around $600 per (indoor 1200w). I have certain principles that carry over from the coke game, now that I'm done with that side...I'll maximise profits and won't wholesale if I feel like it. You know you have a competitive advantage do to the better/best quality...why not breakdown your units and price them at true market value. I'm sure you could get your outs produced cheaper than $600 per and you probably do

*I separate initial investment from production costs

 

[weeddaddy50]

Bro...just gotta jump in here on this one

Bro...just gotta jump in here on this one

You know there are also growers with business degrees and understand economics.....why in the world we a grower like myself give you units for 2k...to watch you ship those things back easy for 4-5 k.....I mean really?.....your not the only one on this this website that is savvy.......are there guys selling cheap meds right now?....of course there are....its a seasonal thing....guys gotta pay rent....bills...pg&e.....they just want to off their shit....and move on.

Almost all the guys I have met from back east...who move out here....could not tell blue dream from OG kush....to them its just weed....and compared to what they have back there our mid grade is AAA to them......so most likely you are in that camp....my experience is there are brokers and growers....if you cant grow you or failed at growing....your a broker......almost(not all) are frickin low ballers......and do just as you describe in your post.

I'm all for whoever selling their buds for whatever price they like. I have a bachelor's in business admin. I know how a business should run and I grow like everyone else here. I've been growing since' 06 and I know my cost per unit is in the hundreds...I have someone running a small setup year round (1200w) for headstash. To much going on to baby sit grows. My point...having an understanding of economics...if lbs have a per unit cost of a few hundreds on a small scale grow...economics tells me the greater the production level the cheaper each individual unit is to produce. The grower should be seeing more than double if their units are priced at 2k per. Even if the unit production cost was 1k you're still gonna double up. There's a great profit margin for growers who wholesale, but if I listened to what people say in this thread it leads me to think there's inefficiency in the production process, if 2k per unit of top quality isn't profitable.

 

[weeddaddy50]

Also.you can't make a living off 1200 w....

Also.you can't make a living off 1200 w....

You sound like a guy who tried 2 600w and failed...and really no nothing about growing.....but that just my 02 cents.

Listening to your comment it seems like there's a lot of ways to reduce production costs. You can definitely save quite a few grand streamlining things (some of the things you listed shouldnt be production costs). Now I don't know how much my unit cost is but if I did a perpetual for profit I'm sure I could get procost to around $600 per (indoor 1200w). I have certain principles that carry over from the coke game, now that I'm done with that side...I'll maximise profits and won't wholesale if I feel like it. You know you have a competitive advantage do to the better/best quality...why not breakdown your units and price them at true market value. I'm sure you could get your outs produced cheaper than $600 per and you probably do

*I separate initial investment from production costs

 

[Capital G]

You know there are also growers with business degrees and understand economics.....why in the world we a grower like myself give you units for 2k...to watch you ship those things back easy for 4-5 k.....I mean really?.....your not the only one on this this website that is savvy.......are there guys selling cheap meds right now?....of course there are....its a seasonal thing....guys gotta pay rent....bills...pg&e.....they just want to off their shit....and move on.

Almost all the guys I have met from back east...who move out here....could not tell blue dream from OG kush....to them its just weed....and compared to what they have back there our mid grade is AAA to them......so most likely you are in that camp....my experience is there are brokers and growers....if you cant grow you or failed at growing....your a broker......almost(not all) are frickin low ballers......and do just as you describe in your post.

This is the thing...I've been blowing Cali since I was 13...32 now. I grew up under a Rasta who used to have cali gold shipped in during the mid 90's....I don't see why there's animosity. Like I said before, by all means charge what you like to make whatever you like I'm all for it. If, you couldn't stand the 2k that's cool...you wouldn't be the right source for me to do biz with it's simple as that. Lastly, there's connoisseurs everywhere...if you have the capital wherever you are you'll find cali AAA quality. Being honest I've smoked herb superior to anything cali has to offer while I was stationed in ft. campbell, ky. Flavor, potency, bag appeal etc. from local ky growers

 

[Capital G]

You sound like a guy who tried 2 600w and failed...and really no nothing about growing.....but that just my 02 cents.

Nope, wrong, not even close...house & g nutes distilled water in cocoa...what's hard about it. I enjoy my free time. It's a common sense to it...units go for 1600-2400 on avg....back home they go for 4-5 at wholesale and wholesale is hard to come by so the true value is 6400+. Dude there's nothing to get upset about make your money..imo you don't have enough units to sale for me and that's why you're antsy, you probably produce only 10 in an entire calendar year...just my .02 cents.

 

[weeddaddy50]

Whatever.....bro......"growing up under a Rasta"....means nothing to me.....I meet guys like you once a week....mostly you guys are breakdown guys...not really even brokers.....you just confirmed to me that you never have grown before.....growing dank...is anything but easy....and if you were a grower U would know that......

Maybe you should go over to Bud Trader and get your info there.

 

[dagnabit]

the bastion of ad hominem

 

[barefootseeds]

If he was moving real weight he wouldn't start a thread online asking if vac sealers really work and if you can put smelly proof bags in the mail.

 

[ograskal]

it all sounds good on paper but in reality its pretty tough to hit the 6 harvest per year mark, let alone 1.5 steady for most green rushers.... alot of new growers are barely hitting 1-1.5 every 2.5-3 months and not getting more than 2200 per LB since the quality aint that good...but whatever thats them, i got a friend who just started and can barely hit 1lb per light let alone the 60 day mark.. its taken me damn near 3 years to finally start dialing indoors a little better to where i can hit 1.5 consistently but still working on the 60 day cropping....since i do all the work myself it takes me about a week to harvest, tear down the room and get the newones into veg, then i usually let them veg another week in flower to while i organize trimming the processed herb, and deal with all the brokering and finding a home for the finished herb as well, plus i commonly let my OGs run 65-70 days so my harvest mark is almost 3 months which sucks.......thank god i dont grow indoors for profit its all OD for me and indoors for fun...ive thought many times about starting up a new 10-20 light room but when it comes down to it the numbers are so much easier to just find a property up north LTO or owner carry and go big open sun......i lost like 3 plants this year to root rot, barely hit 50% of potential harvest (ran 2 lb GSC instead of 4-5lb blue dreams) and STILL made a huge ROI.....indoors is just a shit load of work compared to outdoors.

Like I said before, If you know what you are doing and you're serious and dedicated to the job, those numbers i posted earlier are very easy to achieve...Matter of fact i know several growers that get around 2 pounds per light and sell there stuff between 28-32 per...So i was really throwing out minimal numbers earlier...All of these folks chop at 56-60 days so they always achieve the 6 harvest per year mark....Like i said before, If you cant get at least 1.5 lbs per light then maybe this job isnt for you or whoever.....These folks are serious and dedicated and feed their families doing this, so they make it happen....Some folks arent cut out for this and some are...

 

[Capital G]

Whatever.....bro......"growing up under a Rasta"....means nothing to me.....I meet guys like you once a week....mostly you guys are breakdown guys...not really even brokers.....you just confirmed to me that you never have grown before.....growing dank...is anything but easy....and if you were a grower U would know that......

Maybe you should go over to Bud Trader and get your info there.

No I can guarantee you haven't met anyone like me. I don't broker or breakdown anything. I have the right clientele. KISS method you should try it....flush your cocoa real good, drop some seeds in a water bottle until the crack, place them in a damp paper towel out of the light yet warm...rapid rooters plugs, dome with a heating pad underneath + liquid karma, low ppm 200 to start, ph your solution and follow house & g instructions....calmag when needed during veg. Some people have a probably with paying attention to detail and like to do too much. Some people have natural greenthumbs and some don't. Once again charge what you like...I never said otherwise.

 

[Capital G]

If he was moving real weight he wouldn't start a thread online asking if vac sealers really work and if you can put smelly proof bags in the mail.

Things pick up fast when you get right situation.

 

[Z-ro]

Cool if youre stoked on 12 lights more power to you!

 

[weeddaddy50]

Na....its really

Na....its really

Abusive ad hominem

the bastion of ad hominem

 

[skull and roses]

Whatever.....bro......"growing up under a Rasta"....means nothing to me.....I meet guys like you once a week....mostly you guys are breakdown guys...not really even brokers.....you just confirmed to me that you never have grown before.....growing dank...is anything but easy....and if you were a grower U would know that......

Maybe you should go over to Bud Trader and get your info there.

This post is the sound of a hammer hitting the nail on the head. You called it ********* material for sure!!!!

 

[chuewy]

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