Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better

[MrDank]

when I went to denver last, I talked to the guy who owned the biggest disp in town for a couple hours. What he told me is meds are 2000 per unit doesnt matter what kind, how long they take, anything, its all just 2. Anybody hear anything similar?

Another guy there told me bho wholesales for 7-10/gram...

that's Colorado for you these days. Everyday I ask myself, why are the growers here growing all these Kush's and Haze's when people expect to pay the same price as they pay for Blue Dream and Chem 4...

warehouse mids driving down the prices of basement headies

and the brokers care more about price than anything else. When indoor prices compete with cali greenhouse prices once they hit CO, then we all know something's not right around here...

oh well, I'm just glad it's not a problem for me personally, but I've seen a bunch of friends sell themselves short

 

[MiMedicineMan]

Blue Dream and Chem 4...

lol here in Michigan thats a haze and a kush.

Im coming out to la for the ht thing next month. I've only been out there once and didn't stay long. If some locals could point me into the direction of something cool to do i would appreciate it.

 

[weeddaddy50]

Well here's my .02 cents

Well here's my .02 cents

As a indoor grower....I see prices starting to stableize....I am doing the same thing as last year at this time, curing, checking on my medicine, using all the knowledge gained on this site for the perfect cure...its just like a bank account....and when I can get a proper donation for all the hard work, I put into growing Dank AAA product, I release a few units....just building up an inventory slowly......I am NOT going to let units go for 24.....just is not going to happen.....it still slow out there, but my contacts are still taking inventory at 32-35 depending on strain....and once this flood...has turned the corner...my inventory will be burned up by April.....and those packs will have a perfect cure.......

I have also just came up with the idea for all those small popcorn buds on the lower branches....they take lots of time to trim...and usually a pain in the Ass....so now, I am just going to put them in a mixed pile of strains...and make 1/2 oz bags..."untrimed" and find the nearest cancer patients in my area and just give them away......Just did a batch...and those people were grateful....full of smiles and giving me hugs and stuff....I would like to do that about once a week till I run out of that stuff...and then do it all over again on the next harvest....

I grow.....because I love helping people....I grow because I love growing.....and searching for ultimate strains....and Now I grow because I am creating elite dank strains......do I medicate?.....of course.....but growing also lets me meet new people...about 90% of those new people are very cool......growing also helps me pay my bills.....and gives me satisfaction of working and creating something with my hands.........Growing Dank is NOT easy....it is a job that requires you to be there daily.

Another ramble.....but reqular IC's will get my point.

I find this very hard to believe, several of my 25+ year grower friends who regularly bring total dank fire to market are just sitting on their packs, I'm hearing here in NorCal.....24-28....OCCASIONALLY 3

 

[Z-ro]

OG 28-3, GSC 32-34
Outdoor OG 15-16, Blue dreams etc 12-14
these are cold hard numbers and not one bit different than this time last year.

This is up north, probly add 1k by the time it makes it down south. all in state

 

[kmk420kali]

I don't have a dislike against cashcroppers. Use the economy to your advantage all you can! And keep it to yourselves and build 13 houses on tropical islands whatever. If you're risking jail time for growing a plant you deserved all that. I just hope you can enjoy it long enough after such a stressy job.
BUT when people do LEGAL big scale grows and complain about the prices they get for bud while they can still get breakeven with their investments and costs after 1 or 2 grows... Fuck your shit, seriously. Any other legal industry out there, you'd need to do 10 times as many runs or more before making profit. And then it's also blood sweat and tears, working long ass days 6/7 or 7/7 for much less profit. And much less interesting and fun than tending a bunch of plants. Seems like a dreamjob.

Legal?? You think that 215 has made it Legal to the point that we have no more worries??
Tell that to....
Aaron Sandusky
http://www.theweedblog.com/pardon-medical-marijuana-grower-aaron-sandusky/

Eddy Lepp
http://www.canorml.org/news/leppsentence.html

And the many more men and women who are currently incarcerated or fighting their Cases here!! http://www.canorml.org/costs/federal_medical_marijuana_cases_prior_to_2011#prison

Just because it is "Legal" here, does not mean the cops and DEA are not busting us and lying on a daily basis!!
So basically man..."Fuck YOUR shit"!!

 

[stasis]

Good Info Guys. Good Luck out there..

Cheers..!

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Where are you getting 35 for indoor? I travel all over the bay area when I am not working and I just DO NOT see these prices at all???

I find this very hard to believe, several of my 25+ year grower friends who regularly bring total dank fire to market are just sitting on their packs, I'm hearing here in NorCal.....24-28....OCCASIONALLY 3 and that's if you have a real long term relationship and/or are ok with waiting for a 60-90 day consignment.

those are average wholesale prices...but theres a few highballers here and there its all about who you know... i sell my OG to a guy for 28-3 and he sells it to rappers and people with money for up to 4k per unit...people with $$ are willing to pay a little extra for that truely premium smoke because there is just soo much crap out there. some people want to smoke 50 dollar quarters of outdoor and others want to smoke 60 dollar 8ths of the best shit its up to them..

also down in socal there are some places you can still get 32-36 for top shelf stuff...

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^I guess I'm just lucky. Maybe my people dont complain because they know I give all the extra oils and trims to cancer patients, and with out them I couldnt afford to do that.

 

[sunset limited]

when I went to denver last, I talked to the guy who owned the biggest disp in town for a couple hours. What he told me is meds are 2000 per unit doesnt matter what kind, how long they take, anything, its all just 2. Anybody hear anything similar?

Another guy there told me bho wholesales for 7-10/gram...

^^^this is exactly why we need to organize.

[rant]

why isn't there a trade organization for commercial growers? if we can learn anything from the labor movement (and OPEC too for that matter), it's that there is strength in numbers. other things equal, you do much better negotiating terms if a whole mob of like-minded people have your back than if you're trying to go it alone.

the very only reason that retailers can scoop up decent herb at prices that amount to theft is because it's easy for them to pick off individuals who are in a tight spot and need to move their packs immediately to keep the lights on.

if enough of us got together, anyone who needs a considerable quantity of meds on demand would have to pay a fair price determined by the producers.

if there were an organization that i had a stake and a vote in that would rate, price, and clear my produce for me, i'd gladly pay $50-100 a unit for the service. now if that group were also making sure i got $100-200 more on each one, well that'd just be a no brainer.

and i know i can't be the only one out there who has toyed with the idea of picking up a shift or two a week at the grow shop to get the employee discount. there's a better way though. i don't think it would take more than 2 or 3 mid-size growers in a locale to get wholesale accounts with sunlight, R&M, hydrofarm and all the other distributors. i'm aware of at least one group (in medford/ashland i believe) that has done just that.

of course there would be other incidental benefits to that sort of solidarity. health benefits, retirement, credit, bankable dollars... all basic things that folks working in "legitimate" businesses enjoy but that we are yet to step up and claim.

speaking of legitimacy, at this point legalization is no longer a probability. it's an inevitability. trust and believe that big business is waiting hungrliy for the day they can shut every one of us down and cash in on the industry that we've poured our lives into building. they will get their bloated slice of the pie no matter what we do, but i'd rest a whole lot easier knowing that there was some sort of lobby out there working behind the scenes to make sure that the interests of myself and ten thousand other folks just like me are being represented while i'm stay toiling away in the garden.

it's think it's curious that more people aren't talking about this. most of us seem to be preoccupied with securing and protecting our little corner of the market than with looking out for our trade as a whole.

if evo morales, a dirt poor indian farmer, could organize and legitimize the coca growers in bolivia and get himself elected president of a country that has been either a slave colony or a puppet state for the last 500 years, there's not a lot we can't accomplish here if we all get on the same page.

[/rant]

 

[Grass Lands]

^cartels have actually never been linked to outdoor cali grows. lol. that's all propaganda because some racist fuck pig saw a can of beans at a grow and made some massive assumptions or bigoted leaps of bigoted faith

Come to the Central Valley and you might just change your mind on the cartel...lots of bust in the foothills of non-english speaking mexicans...hmm wonder where the hell they come from?...also got the asian gangs and their syndicate roaming the valley as well....

 

[Yesca73]

just because they are Mexican does NOT mean the are in a cartel.
I see allot of border brothers growing but they are not in organized crime .
I say BS also on the pigs part.
They are like most, the economy sucks and it is a way to make some bread.
tapitio + tortillas = cartels BS

 

[VagPuncher]

OG 28-3, GSC 32-34
Outdoor OG 15-16, Blue dreams etc 12-14
these are cold hard numbers and not one bit different than this time last year.

This is up north, probly add 1k by the time it makes it down south. all in state

Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.

Woah.


Woah. Woah. Woah. Hold on here.

You guy's are complaining about dumping elbows at 2800?

Up here we're lucky to be getting 2000 right now and im still crushing it.

Jesus. I thought you guys were getting like 1300 for ID the way it was sounding.

Lol.

 

[teemu shalanie]

nothing to cry about at all I agree , 3200 -3400 is crazy $$$$$
TS

 

[megayields]

Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.

Woah.


Woah. Woah. Woah. Hold on here.

You guy's are complaining about dumping elbows at 2800?

Up here we're lucky to be getting 2000 right now and im still crushing it.

Jesus. I thought you guys were getting like 1300 for ID the way it was sounding.

Lol.

2 weeks ago I got a 3 pack for $1K each of nice outdoor Orange Crush, had to trim it up a bit, had a bit of lumber but....also had to drive 4+ hours one way up I5 to Redding...but it was worth it at that price, also got his last unit of OD NYCD that was really nice.

 

[megayields]

As a indoor grower....I see prices starting to stableize....I am doing the same thing as last year at this time, curing, checking on my medicine, using all the knowledge gained on this site for the perfect cure...its just like a bank account....and when I can get a proper donation for all the hard work, I put into growing Dank AAA product, I release a few units....just building up an inventory slowly......I am NOT going to let units go for 24.....just is not going to happen.....it still slow out there, but my contacts are still taking inventory at 32-35 depending on strain....and once this flood...has turned the corner...my inventory will be burned up by April.....and those packs will have a perfect cure.......

I have also just came up with the idea for all those small popcorn buds on the lower branches....they take lots of time to trim...and usually a pain in the Ass....so now, I am just going to put them in a mixed pile of strains...and make 1/2 oz bags..."untrimed" and find the nearest cancer patients in my area and just give them away......Just did a batch...and those people were grateful....full of smiles and giving me hugs and stuff....I would like to do that about once a week till I run out of that stuff...and then do it all over again on the next harvest....

I grow.....because I love helping people....I grow because I love growing.....and searching for ultimate strains....and Now I grow because I am creating elite dank strains......do I medicate?.....of course.....but growing also lets me meet new people...about 90% of those new people are very cool......growing also helps me pay my bills.....and gives me satisfaction of working and creating something with my hands.........Growing Dank is NOT easy....it is a job that requires you to be there daily.

Another ramble.....but reqular IC's will get my point.

Well good for you......I still don't believe the $3,500 per pack number brother.... but then I don't need that much to make a very nice return either.

I will agree with this statement:.Growing Dank is NOT easy....amen to that!

 

[mr.shiva]

Thank You Z-Ro for saving me bunch of keystrokes. I think we got our point across to these Opinionated 16-post East Coasters.

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Production cost at our place was just shy of 1k a lb. mortgage, balloon, taxes, trimmers, water, fuels, a little development (kitchen for workers). I think the market might start correcting just due to growers not being able to afford the 'pay to play' nature of the business.

 

[ograskal]

My partners are still getting 3200 -3700 per lb. here in socal depending on the strain...Its all about who you know....They used to get 4000 not too long ago..

 

[m4n]

2 weeks ago I got a 3 pack for $1K each of nice outdoor Orange Crush, had to trim it up a bit, had a bit of lumber but....also had to drive 4+ hours one way up I5 to Redding...but it was worth it at that price, also got his last unit of OD NYCD that was really nice.

Went up there a week before xmas and grabbed some of that orange crush for 1k an lb...decent for the price!!!

 

[skull and roses]

^^^this is exactly why we need to organize.

[rant]

why isn't there a trade organization for commercial growers? if we can learn anything from the labor movement (and OPEC too for that matter), it's that there is strength in numbers. other things equal, you do much better negotiating terms if a whole mob of like-minded people have your back than if you're trying to go it alone.

the very only reason that retailers can scoop up decent herb at prices that amount to theft is because it's easy for them to pick off individuals who are in a tight spot and need to move their packs immediately to keep the lights on.

if enough of us got together, anyone who needs a considerable quantity of meds on demand would have to pay a fair price determined by the producers.

if there were an organization that i had a stake and a vote in that would rate, price, and clear my produce for me, i'd gladly pay $50-100 a unit for the service. now if that group were also making sure i got $100-200 more on each one, well that'd just be a no brainer.

and i know i can't be the only one out there who has toyed with the idea of picking up a shift or two a week at the grow shop to get the employee discount. there's a better way though. i don't think it would take more than 2 or 3 mid-size growers in a locale to get wholesale accounts with sunlight, R&M, hydrofarm and all the other distributors. i'm aware of at least one group (in medford/ashland i believe) that has done just that.

of course there would be other incidental benefits to that sort of solidarity. health benefits, retirement, credit, bankable dollars... all basic things that folks working in "legitimate" businesses enjoy but that we are yet to step up and claim.

speaking of legitimacy, at this point legalization is no longer a probability. it's an inevitability. trust and believe that big business is waiting hungrliy for the day they can shut every one of us down and cash in on the industry that we've poured our lives into building. they will get their bloated slice of the pie no matter what we do, but i'd rest a whole lot easier knowing that there was some sort of lobby out there working behind the scenes to make sure that the interests of myself and ten thousand other folks just like me are being represented while i'm stay toiling away in the garden.

it's think it's curious that more people aren't talking about this. most of us seem to be preoccupied with securing and protecting our little corner of the market than with looking out for our trade as a whole.

if evo morales, a dirt poor indian farmer, could organize and legitimize the coca growers in bolivia and get himself elected president of a country that has been either a slave colony or a puppet state for the last 500 years, there's not a lot we can't accomplish here if we all get on the same page.

[/rant]

Very well said!! I have been saying this to friends since prop 19, we need a lobby And a union. It may be the only way to retain part of our industry.

 

[weeddaddy50]

Mega

Mega

that number come's from "swim" or however you say that.

Well good for you......I still don't believe the $3,500 per pack number brother.... but then I don't need that much to make a very nice return either.

I will agree with this statement:.Growing Dank is NOT easy....amen to that!