Are big facilities going to put basement grower at unemployment?

[megayields]

Ive been thinking about this too.... Im going to get hated on for this comment but I hope there is NEVER full out legalization. To each their own but some people need this to keep some sort of quality of life goin'.

Amen..let the flaming begin!

 

[hush]

sociopathy

[sō′sē·op′əthē]

Etymology: L, socius, companion; Gk, pathos, disease

a personality disorder characterized by a lack of social responsibility and failure to adapt to ethical and social standards of the community.

(From Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. © 2009)

 

[mean mr.mustard]

By that definition we are all sociopaths...

Have a good day everybody.

 

[huligun]

Aren't you in a pseudo-legal state? I bet you are an optimist...




Because I have a feeling that stream is going over a waterfall and would like to avoid that if possible.

I am in Seattle, Washington. It is legal to possess an ounce of weed for recreational use and I am not sure of the details if you are medical. A lot of states (Oregon and California) have decriminalized marijuana, meaning you will not go to jail having it, but they can still take it away from you. In Washington the cops can't take your stash. Law is a funny thing, like religion, up for personal interpretation. I suppose in that sense it is as you say "pseudo-legal". Why I am an optimist in regard to weed is because it is trending in the correct direction legally. My belief has always been that an adult should be able to do as they please with their own mind and body, and that extends beyond smoking marijuana. We are supposed to be a free society but every day I see evidence to the contrary.

 

[Puffaluffagus]

The way I see it, maybe a couple more states go legal in 2014, then a couple more in 2016, and even that is not guaranteed, we could end up with some republican preacher douche bag for president in 2016, and the whole thing could start moving backwards again.

I think it is many, many years away from being over for us, but we probably are the last generation that is going to be able to make a career out of basement growing.

 

[Weird]

sociopathy

[sō′sē·op′əthē]

Etymology: L, socius, companion; Gk, pathos, disease

a personality disorder characterized by a lack of social responsibility and failure to adapt to ethical and social standards of the community.

(From Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. © 2009)

relevance and relativity, without them its a shit storm and a slap fight

if basement growers are sociopaths because they seek to maintain a profit in light of legalization, what are the people who that will mass produce it for a lower cost but a greater share of the over all total market profits

and what does that make an oncologists who will only help you if you pay them tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for treatment against a life threatening disease?

what does this make pharmaceutical companies can own and restrict life saving treatments for 1000% markups and funnel the profits to a few individuals?

how come a model of legalization that doesn't allow pot to be commercialized by big business, that doesn't make a victim out of the existing or future cultivators or users seems so out of line?

why would you hate anyone who wants to continue to profit on weed without having to become an industrialist?

personally i am far too dynamic for any of this to effect me personally but i will tell you it seriously bothers me on a grander scale

from a larger economical viewpoint our economy has been undermined by unfettered corporate political influence and corruption

the money small pot farms generates goes directly into the pockets of the local American middle class

this accounts for a fair percentage of middle and lower class Americas income

legalization that facilities corporate commercialization will shift those monies from people in lower and middle class to upper middle and upper classes

if will grow the economy for the government (taxes) and big business (corporate and stock profits)

this doesn't eliminate all markets for everyone but there is no replacement for the void in middle and lower class America

so one one hand i realize people want to get high with out the buzz kill of prohibition i think its pretty gross that in order for your life to get relief you dont give a fuck about throwing a guy under the buss who might have been providing the same relief you or someone else who gets relief through cannabis enjoys

its amazing the corner pharmacist can get six figures and sell shit that kills people and hes all good but the dude who grows pot in his basement selling dope is a real fucking scumbag cause he wants to make money on the weed

what kind of person, what kind of integrity does it take to so easily sell out members of the same community your a part of before it was deemed legal and or socially acceptable now that it may be for you?

whats the word you would link for that?

 

[Weird]

the thread title is

Are big facilities going to put basement grower at unemployment?

and the answer is it depends on legislation

trying to make it a fight about legalization when its an conversation about big business pushing out small business is inappropriate and off topic

 

[dagnabit]

Are big facilities going to put basement grower at unemployment?

a

some yes and some no...

thankfully it's the ones with azamax and gravity that will be gone.


those arguing for keeping prohibition have either never been to prison or are to stupid to have learned from it.

 

[2 Legal Co]

Amen..let the flaming begin!

Flame!

Or perhaps the phrase 'Go directly to jail, do not pass go,,, do NOT collect $$$s', is preferable?

So please do consider yourselves properly 'flame broiled'.

64 Passed.

Now go figure out how to make a living with your skills,,, hopefully w/o having to worry about handcuffs. Unless they are fur lined of course.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

the thread title is

Are big facilities going to put basement grower at unemployment?

and the answer is it depends on legislation

trying to make it a fight about legalization when its an conversation about big business pushing out small business is inappropriate and off topic

Right!

I'm thinking that how we legislate legal cannabis is going to govern by whom and how it's grown

I was speculating (as that is all we can do) that big businesses that are already primed would be the go-to solution for lawmakers.

As long as moonshining cannabis becomes legal when the rest of the stuff hits the market I'm going to be much more optimistic.

 

[hush]

if basement growers are sociopaths because they seek to maintain a profit in light of legalization,

Nope. That's not why. It would be because they refuse to see the bigger picture, of greater importance than their profits, which is that people are going to jail and lives are being ruined because of the plant's legal status. That one little fact trumps everything else.

and what does that make an oncologists who will only help you if you pay them tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for treatment against a life threatening disease?

Capitalist asshole fucks.

what does this make pharmaceutical companies can own and restrict life saving treatments for 1000% markups and funnel the profits to a few individuals?

Same thing.

how come a model of legalization that doesn't allow pot to be commercialized by big business, that doesn't make a victim out of the existing or future cultivators or users seems so out of line?

You are focusing on the wrong part of the story. People are being imprisoned because of the illegality of this plant. It's hard to really care much about the ratio between growers profits and the amount of people whose lives are ruined by a cannabis charge.

why would you hate anyone who wants to continue to profit on weed without having to become an industrialist?

I wouldn't, unless they were doing anything OTHER than supporting any and every measure to legalize it.

so one one hand i realize people want to get high with out the buzz kill of prohibition i think its pretty gross that in order for your life to get relief you dont give a fuck about throwing a guy under the buss who might have been providing the same relief you or someone else who gets relief through cannabis enjoys

Wow, man.

its amazing the corner pharmacist can get six figures and sell shit that kills people and hes all good but the dude who grows pot in his basement selling dope is a real fucking scumbag cause he wants to make money on the weed

what kind of person, what kind of integrity does it take to so easily sell out members of the same community your a part of before it was deemed legal and or socially acceptable now that it may be for you?

Again, wow.

whats the word you would link for that?

sociopathy

[sō′sē·op′əthē]

Etymology: L, socius, companion; Gk, pathos, disease

a personality disorder characterized by a lack of social responsibility and failure to adapt to ethical and social standards of the community.

 

[dagnabit]

As long as moonshining cannabis becomes legal when the rest of the stuff hits the market I'm going to be much more optimistic.

lets say it doesn't..

lets say your nightmare scenario is exactly what happens.
Phillip Morris takes over production with monsanto genetics in government approved outlets.

it's still(in the big picture)preferable to prohibition.

young men and women would no longer risk felony conviction for simple possession.
those spared that will be able to vote,to bear arms,to qualify for student assistance and to get good jobs.
no longer will the average citizen with an ounce have to fear for their lives and freedom!
the closet grower will suffer no more than he suffers today as far as legal ramifications.
will the sub par closet hack suffer financially? sure he will.
is that a fair trade for the multitude of non growers who just want to relax after a days work and not fear for their very lives at the hands of the militarized police force? goddamn right.

gotta look beyond ourselves.
we are the minority within the minority.

imo your nightmare is not going to be a reality.
but even if it is, it would still be preferable to what we have.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

imo your nightmare is not going to be a reality.
but even if it is, it would still be preferable to what we have.

Really??

I suppose that's why the poll is showing what it shows.

We'll just have to wait and see

 

[dagnabit]

Really??

I suppose that's why the poll is showing what it shows.

We'll just have to wait and see

look at the sample being polled
we are the minority within the minority that have something to fear and we are pretty divided!

 

[GreenChill]

put your big boy grow boots on and get to work, dnt waste time worrying about the other guys. Spend your time steppin up. they want us to worry about it, its easier to scare us off than it is to compete. who do you think is more scared of who New belgium or budwieser???? If nb was scared they would of never got into it. Bud spent millions of dollars buying up fake ass craft beer companies, to compete with them. i could ramble on more, but i think ive made my point.

 

[Aeroguerilla]

listen as soon as marijuana is 100% legal and the money is out of it entrepreneurs and true hustlers will find other means to get by.Cocaine, Heroin, Mushroom factory... time to change up your profession now if your worried.

really think what will happen to the everyday ganja hustler if the ganja is taken away from the hustle. I for one would be smuggling bricks of coke via submarine =)

 

[2 Legal Co]

listen as soon as marijuana is 100% legal and the money is out of it entrepreneurs and true hustlers will find other means to get by.Cocaine, Heroin, Mushroom factory... time to change up your profession now if your worried.

really think what will happen to the everyday ganja hustler if the ganja is taken away from the hustle. I for one would be smuggling bricks of coke via submarine =)

LOL See? New carrer found. W/O really looking for one. And another bright side; Less heavy lifting involved. lol Just pilot the sub.

 

[Maximo]

What U think of big facilities growing tones of cannabis each year to provide the dispensary, clubs or whatever? Seems like soon they will be plenty of those huge "medical marijuana" growers in the USA. Lets face it, soon or later it will probably be legalize in the whole USA. I have a feeling when this day come, a lot of mid-classes grower will regret!

It is obvious that big companies such as MERCK or MONSANTO will get in the game. They supported props 19 and it seems that a few of those big names are pushing to legalization. I can imagine their lobbies going to push new rules and laws, make it quiet impossible for the mid-classes people to be a "medical marijuana" grower. Seems like they are indeed going to make it legal, yes, but not for the mid-classes to profit from it!

Are you serious?, you obviously do not see the big picture, you must live in cali?, where everyone thinks cali is somehow a leader in canabis production in the US, your (cali) is going to supply the whole USA from cali LMAO, big companies?, again LMAO at you, get a clue who ever you are?, seriously.

Keep it hash
Max

 

[skull and roses]

LOL See? New carrer found. W/O really looking for one. And another bright side; Less heavy lifting involved. lol Just pilot the sub.

Nah screw the sub, I'm thinking about USA indoor homegrown coco plants!!! Think about how easy it would be to just grow leaf. Then you'd have pure cocaine. The whole evolution of marijuana being homegrown could start over with cocaine!! Then in 30 years it will be medical, 45 years legal. You're talking big profits for the foreseeable future!! Think about it. Lol! Although it might be worth looking into

 

[dagnabit]

ergot
the indoor trip of the future.