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Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better

stasis

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Although, to me, something like GSC (and most "Purples") do better Indoors..

Purple strains do not do so well near the Coast, due to Botrytis. For those varieties, I choose Indoor.

But, I like to smoke my own Product, like most of You do... And live by the Pacific, sooo. No Outdoor Purps. except about 60% of the God's gift I started. What Botrytis did not claim was amazing.

Other that a couple tasters, I haven't smoked indoor since March 2012.. In no hurry to. IMHO, there's no comparison. Well-raised and finished Sun-Grown Pot is considerably more enjoyable to me.. Flavour, buzz,and all-around smoke.

After growing Aeroponically with GH, in another Med State for 2 years, I could not wait to get back to the California Sun-grown.. I just love it.

Going "Direct," and getting 24+ for my G'House nugs. Gotta do what I gotta do, until something changes.. Gets me outta the house, it;s all good.

Blue Cheese in da Greenhouse.

 
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TanzanianMagic

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" wholesale prices for marijuana cultivated in outdoor pot gardens have plummeted this year to under $2,000 per pound, "

Just for comparison, in Holland wholesale prices (admittedly indoor mainly) are E3 per gram, or $3,96 (at a USD/EU 1.32 exchange rate).

One pound is 453.6 grams, which puts new US wholesale prices at $2000/lbs at $4.41 per gram.

With the absence of legal fees, and with increased availability (and a greater market) in the USA, prices could eventually go down below $4,00 per gram.

In my calculations, the cost of production indoors is E0,60 per gram, or $0,79 per gram indoors (that is, with electricity being the main cost).
 

Adrift

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i LOVE properly grown outdoor bud! one of my buddys only does outdoor and i swear if that was the only weed i could smoke i would not be to upset :)

i do like my indoor better tho still. but really really enjoy good outdoor meds aswell

:joint:
 

Chunkypigs

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"
Just for comparison, in Holland wholesale prices (admittedly indoor mainly) are E3 per gram, or $3,96 (at a USD/EU 1.32 exchange rate).

One pound is 453.6 grams, which puts new US wholesale prices at $2000/lbs at $4.41 per gram.

With the absence of legal fees, and with increased availability (and a greater market) in the USA, prices could eventually go down below $4,00 per gram.

In my calculations, the cost of production indoors is E0,60 per gram, or $0,79 per gram indoors (that is, with electricity being the main cost).

So you are saying that the indoor for sale in a amsterdam coffee shop was wholesaled for about $1700.
And over there it's illegal to grow and supply coffeeshops, no?

I'm thinking most indoor growers here do much better than that
unless they do huge volume.

you guys see any american imported weed in your shops over there? I bet the Dutch stoners
dream about coming to america now to smoke the bomb, reverse tourism is coming.
 

DIDM

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the price of shit herb is decreasing


miracle growops, the budweiser of herb

sucks there is a lot of open land for people to try and grow, it also sucks that a lot of folks that work hard have to contend with these fly by night cartel crews

long live the Nor Cal Families

been growing since long before growing was accepted, and sex was still safe
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^cartels have actually never been linked to outdoor cali grows. lol. that's all propaganda because some racist fuck pig saw a can of beans at a grow and made some massive assumptions or bigoted leaps of bigoted faith
 

redbudduckfoot

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What?

Pretty sure the Mexican Cartels are running THOUSANDS of plants in The National Forests and Government owned land in Cali.

These are the dudes running Miracle Grow, lol. Pretty sure they ain't running lucas!

rbdf
 

nvthis

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ya fuck CALi GARBAGE OUTDOORS. thats the high school kids weed

Unfortunately, he kind of has a point. I've seen more outdoor garbage from Cali in the past 5 years then I think I ever did before that. Funny thing is it's almost all from transplant green rushers. The irony here being that at least some of those are probably from BasementGrowers home town. Thanks dude....
 

Hash Zeppelin

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What?

Pretty sure the Mexican Cartels are running THOUSANDS of plants in The National Forests and Government owned land in Cali.

These are the dudes running Miracle Grow, lol. Pretty sure they ain't running lucas!

rbdf

nope. Sea Maiden posted this earlier in another thread. you will find it quite interesting.

http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetrut...ot-connected-to-drug-cartels-l-a-times-finds/

National Forest Pot Farms Not Connected To Drug Cartels: L.A. Times Finds


Major props to Los Angeles Times reporter Joe Mozingo for going deep into the California backcountry in this report on illegal pot farming in our National Forests.

Cops in need of funding have long dubbed these farms ‘cartel grows’ and have worked to trace them back to the Sinaloa Cartel or the Zetas. Astonishingly, U.S. Drug Czar employee Tommy Lanier admits cartels don’t control pot growing in the national forests.

“‘Based on our intelligence, which includes thousands of cellphone numbers and wiretaps, we haven’t been able to connect anyone to a major cartel,’ he said.

‘Lanier said authorities have long mislabeled marijuana grown on public land as ‘cartel grows’ because Mexican nationals are arrested in the majority of cases, and the narrative of fighting drug cartels helps them secure federal funding.”

Well, that’s infuriating.

“‘We’ve had undercover agents at the highest level of these groups, breaking bread and drinking tequila,’ says Roy Giorgi, commander of the Mountain and Valley Marijuana Investigation Team, a multi-agency organization headquartered in Sacramento. ‘Even at their most comfortable, the leaders never said, ‘Hey, we’re working for the Zetas.’”

Mozingo’s thorough report makes us feel sorry for everyone involved: the Mexican nationals fleeing poverty to work like dogs in the wilderness only to end up in federal prison; the expensive, well-trained law enforcement officials reduced to gardeners ripping up weeds; the National Park visitors scared to venture off-trail for fear of gunfire; the animals hunted and poisoned; the pristine wilderness despoiled.

There’s a reason illegal bootleggers haven’t set up whiskey stills in the Sierra Nevada –booze is legal, regulated, taxed and so cheap it renders such a stupid idea unprofitable. Chalk this sad saga up to another unintended consequence of trying to ban a popular plant.
 

DonDon

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That's interesting but doesn't mean it's true. You're going to need a lot more facts and sources to convince me otherwise. Just because you read a few paragraphs on the internet doesn't make it true. Don't believe everything you read. I think it would be foolish and very nieve to believe cartels don't have their piece of the outdoor growing pie. I could give a million reasons why not just because cops found beans at a grow but let's not get too off-topic. What's good with the tickets?
 

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yea mexicans definately have links to grows up north...and not the illegal grows in the forest like yall think. they are smart...if they can push 1 million dollar loads of meth and coke through our borders, its foolish to think they cant buy a 250k property in the foothills and run big numbers under the disguise of prop 215 like the rest of the growers....they probably have better funding than your average green rusher....the mexican linked ones can setup big greenhouses and finance real operations and they have the muscle to work those fields like no other....


that link with the videos on humboldt county is insane...with that many grows its pretty amazing many of them are holding out for 1500 a LB....ive been talking with a few guys from the 707 and they are remarking how they can get cheaper bud outside of humboldt right now, but its mostly because the old timers with money already buried and no desperation balk at the lowball 1300 a LB prices that most regular folk are willing to accept.....the upper echelon of outdoor herb like good OG, sour, cookies, purples are still fetching high teens....most of the 13-14 stuff is good but its stuff like green crack and trainwreck, machine trimmed, all has the same terpine smell but its solid green, frosty bud that most people in this country love to pay 40-50 an 8th for on breakdown..

its a scary market whats happening...we have people pumping more and more outdoor and driving prices down, and we have big corporate interests funding mega million dollar warehouses and acres prepping for federal legalization...safe to say this green rush isnt gonna last forever for most folks.
 

krunchbubble

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its a scary market whats happening...we have people pumping more and more outdoor and driving prices down, and we have big corporate interests funding mega million dollar warehouses and acres prepping for federal legalization...safe to say this green rush isnt gonna last forever for most folks.

Thats why im opening as many businesses as possible right now.....
 

Hash Zeppelin

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if you produce 20 pounds a month at 200 bucks a pound you can still make 40 grand a year after taxes, and all your bills.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^this is after bills. after mortgages, and electricity and nutes. 40k extra a year is plenty.
 

whadeezlrg

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I spend about 300 on just electricity to produce a #...just throwin that out there
20# @ 200 a pop = 4k, electric on 15+ lights would have to be close to 2k or more per month in ca (and if your trying to do 20 per month that gets doubled), rent @ 1200+...doesn't appear to be profitable from what I can tell...and that's before big bro gets his piece for permits or whatever else...
 
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Hash Zeppelin

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^that is nuts. mine is much less per watt I guess. if i was yielding anywhere near my potential, or the 2 pounds per light that is possible then i would be able to grow a pound for around 50 in electricity per pound. I'm not getting that, but I think I can. I'm working on it. so theoretically, if legalization were to happen, I could do like a 27 light set up in a 4 bedroom house, and just keep one room for my self. 2 pounds per light per 2 months. 27 pounds a month. 200 bucks a pound. 5,400 a month.

....ok so maybe it would be more realistic at 400-500 a pound, because at a certain point you need trimmers, and hired help. Which was mexi shwag price on the border about ten years ago. same stuff now still goes for 200-300 though.

I would get some land in a place with full sun and cheap land and put some big ass green houses on them, for extra money during the summer months.
 
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