Is there such a thing as a "good" Blueberry?

[Morphote]

Gladly, Sagarmatha was the 1st company he supplied seed stock to in Amsterdam circa 95 the seeds were for sale (when did emery start? 94?), he first made contact in 93 in Amsterdam.

Ah yes I forgot he did that. Sagarmatha then Dutch Passion then DJ went solo. That's right.

M.

 

[Relentless]

i havent seen any GREAT blueberry strains.. but im still on the lookout

 

[motaco]

It is a very unfortunate circumstance. With strains like that which can be very good but require a high selection number you really need to grow quite a few to find a keeper. The saving grace may be that in todays medical world, and increasingly legal world of weed clone sharing will be more open. Good clones will hopefully circulate of things like blue berry and other old legends. Bubble gum. Cali O. Matanuska TF, etc.

Great weed, classic weed, but also I fear a weed of an era. That old BC biker bud era when blueberry got popular was a decade ago. If you look at weed history the popular strains do not last very long very often.

Neither do the genetics I fear. Often there is one good year where some strain produces a few thousand seeds of something pretty unique. It gets sold out and popular for a little while then it isn't the same when they try to reproduce it.

Blueberry is how many generations removed now from the late 90s era when it was famous? Who knows. I'll always love it though. That was my dream strain when I was guerilla growing mexi brick in high school. I got a 1/4 sack of it one winter and it blew away the other crap I was smoking. So fresh and fruity.

 

[hurdy gurdy man]

Great topic hush. I'm happy to see that you didn't get flamed off the boards!

When you charge prices like DJ Short, you set up unrealistic expectations for the customer. The advertizement industry hasn't helped the situation. One out of a hundred being a keeper isn't acceptable.

I've heard almost nothing but positive things about Nirvana's stock, and I'm sure the reasonable price of their product has a lot to do with it. Most seeds you purchase today should be of supreme quality, since there is so much supreme quality seed stock and clones for the breeder to work with.

By the way, it's been pointed out to me that no one sells Northern Lights #5 anymore.

 

[habeeb]

"but it was a shit yielder"


you hit it right there.. DJ is not commercial, he's ultra unique connoisseur stash

 

[habeeb]

When you charge prices like DJ Short, you set up unrealistic expectations for the customer.

$150, for what:

-his skill
-his time
-his selection

second you have possibility to keep a clone forever

third you can make limitless seed from one pack

fourth you can never buy a pack again if you clone / breed them


I guarantee you look in your garage and see what's laying around that you paid more then $150 for.. these plants can be grown for the rest of your life, you tell me what entertainment can do that for $150


there's two people in life, positive and negative.. what side you want to be on?

there was actually a study done on "lucky" people. he took people who thought they were lucky / unlucky, gave them a newspaper and asked them to count the pictures... well the "lucky" people get the answer in a few seconds, the unlucky.. 2 minutes... YOUR VIEW CHANGES YOUR WHOLE REALITY... be optimistic and feel lucky you have such a great breeder who sells his seeds at all

 

[hurdy gurdy man]

I agree with you.

The point I was making is that it seems from what I've been hearing and reading for years, folks aren't getting what they are expecting when they grow DJS's seeds, and that makes them unhappy. These types of reviews are the reason I wouldn't gamble on his product.

 

[Avinash.miles]

$150, for what:

-his skill
-his time
-his selection

second you have possibility to keep a clone forever

third you can make limitless seed from one pack

fourth you can never buy a pack again if you clone / breed them


I guarantee you look in your garage and see what's laying around that you paid more then $150 for.. these plants can be grown for the rest of your life, you tell me what entertainment can do that for $150


there's two people in life, positive and negative.. what side you want to be on?

there was actually a study done on "lucky" people. he took people who thought they were lucky / unlucky, gave them a newspaper and asked them to count the pictures... well the "lucky" people get the answer in a few seconds, the unlucky.. 2 minutes... YOUR VIEW CHANGES YOUR WHOLE REALITY... be optimistic and feel lucky you have such a great breeder who sells his seeds at all

agreed.

esp w. DJ....
his BB, the Flo...
worth every cent

 

[huarmiquilla]

howdy

how you do?

am keen to relate DJ price not similar to retail vendor price

DJ not charge such extreme
am read DJ charge more fair price direct
vendor create price retail market

habeeb how you do?

much respect always you

am keen to think such skill and time and selection with respect to keeper specimen remain with gardener rather not seedmaker

indeed skill and other variable require of make seed, but at who make seed and at how to approach to make seed?
such extent to make seed do not follow with respect to remain alive specific specimen within such and such garden forever
such ability reside within individual gardener one perspective

indeed am keen to source DJ variety direct, sad am not option of such

if am source DJ genetic and grow and garden with love to maintain specimen or seedline skill remain with energy focus to garden and love seed to life

one perspective

indeed positive
positive vibrations

 

[Avinash.miles]

you hit it right there.. DJ is not commercial, he's ultra unique connoisseur stash

i disagree
just like w most seeds & strains, its a pheno hunt. if u got flo, but dont have the temple pheno.... you will probably consider it a shit strain, get that cut and its a keeper for ever, hella unique flav & smell & taste, & killer yield & structure.

 

[FOE20]

Is there such thing as a "Good BlueBerry"....
never settle for Good...always strive for Great...
and If there wasn't you would not be asking my friend...
And ppl don't invest to heavy in these cause their a challenge to grow..It is not a Genetic problem..it is a Grower or User issue...these Lines are Fantastic!...
but a total PITA to grow...and why their almost lost at this point...almost tho...don;t listen to croppers unless they show the stuff....
No offense to all ya but if your impression of Blue lines are not great...than yo dont know real Blue lines IMO...and should not be down grading anothers initial experience..
Ive got 2 Blue hybs heading into the bay soon...FBSat x Ortega(FastBlueTaco - aka - OrtegaBlue) and 3xBMoonshins x Ortega(MexicanMoonshine)...although their f1 hybs they should show parents quite clear..they will be avail to try....may also be a few DjBB heirloom hybs as well..next will be MOB...
If you ain't 40yrs old or older you prob don't know Blues lines at all...IMO...its just not the same anymore and everyones after the easiest thing to grow...just not gana happen with Blues...its friggin blues ya know...heh....
happy hunting...
FOE20
- few Options just off the top -
Dj BBerry - original Sativa
Dj Orig BBerry - not exactly what it was..better then true Blue IMO..
Dj True BBerry - lil more Indo ver..not a big fan of this myself..
BMoonshine
FreeBlueSativa
BBerry Sat IBL - TIM - more TempleFlo type Blue line..
Dabney BBerry - killer cut...strait BB pancakes!..
Ol Blue - old Oregon or some line...its a oldie...
BlueHen - the old ver of BlueHaze...modern ver is umm...called somethin new...BlueDream?
MOB - (Mother of Berries)some new lady on the ole block
SOL BlueSatellite v1 - also very BBerry dom
SOL Swt - v.1 has the most BBerry in it..
DP - BBerry
Sagar - BBerry
Vic's BBerry
Reefermans BBerry
motarebs - BBerry Indica
BOG - BlueMoonRocks - (McCanopysMoonbeam x Vics BB or vice versa..but suby and Bog can sort that..wink)
TRC - Trina?
KryptoBerries - CaptCrip - (DabxTBB)
FOEBerry - old mid 90s Affi/Blue hyb

 

[Cool Moe]

One way to tell if a strain is good is to see what's selling where it's legal. A dispensary menu search on w33dmaps shows blueberry is in many many stores, especially Colorado and Michigan. Most who list the source have DJ's original or true blueberry. I had some true that was spectacular.

 

[FOE20]

sorry couldnt resist playin a lil mo blues...
FOE20

 

[DryNobBob]

so the old Blue Grass Seed Company that used DJ blues when DJ was there is worth having, aka Blue Hen, Blue Rocket, etc?

 

[FOE20]

heh....man dont be messin Bob!....n tell Lone aloha from meh to...heh....I'l run those trinas...I swear!...and yea i would think BGrass's work would be choice now a days...

btw on that Sagar info...DJ showed up with about 6-7 BBerry phenoms...a few Flos and so on..BBerry was still a pool at that point...Ive sat at the same table with Tony(Sagar) and discussed this directly...its what it is...
Im not a fan of Dj;s passion for hash...So there diff cause IMO Dj loves his hash..and teh varieties he really was into were very hashy...the Blues lines are not like those...so its def a hut now a days...But far as I care on actual Blue stock "the older the better"...
FOE20

 

[DIDM]

i think the answer to your question is this...

its a numbers game. buy 6 packs of dj short blueberry(or anything) grow 30 females, harvest atleast twice and do 'true sampling'(dont smoke for a day, only smoke one hit) you'll find what your looking for. but heres the thing, the answer to 'not enough yield' is higher numbers, plane and simple, growing more plants gets you more weight.


dj is the king of blueberry. only breeder that could even come close would be chimera and spice of life- right? and that is because they had access to djs blueberry to begin with. i don't believe any pollen chucker is able to actually isolate anything useful in a BX from a ten pack(from the same place we buy our seeds at that).


djs blueberry clone is going around isnt? the high time winning cut that he grew himself and submited? isnt that the story? i could be wrong... but im sure i have read that multiple places. so IF you got your hands on the high times winning dj short blueberry cut would that not be enough? after that you are kinda just looking for gold at the end of the rainbow right?

and this is all under the assumption that you'll be able to get the cut to perform like dj does with his 30 years of growing....maybe the reason why 'his shit is so hard to grow'

DJ lived and his son JD lived/s in OR

his cut for sure hangs out here

 

[Avinash.miles]

^^^ oregon eh?
anyone got exp w blue magoo? the strain used to make the blue heron from dynasty?
think they r from PNW

 

[NotSoNewbie]

Foe
I was curious what your thoughts on sag's blueberry is
I notice you have their logo in your sig...
You don't hear anybody ever talking about their version but it was infact the first one released to the public (unless you knew DJ or some stuff like that)
I have heard that their bubbleberry was very good at least 10 years ago.
Is what they sell as blueberry bud unhyrbidized? Is it more indica/sativa?

 

[Morphote]

DJ Short is the breeder. He does not set the price. The reseller sets the price.

M.

 

[growhi]

anyone can find a good blueberry ! but you need decent numbers of seeds its that simple

its pretty easy to select for if you think about it , your only selecting for smell and that will eliminate prob 90%-95% of the other plants then you smoke test for fav and yeild ect ect


im happy with the 2 i found