Pistilwipt thread - larf prevention

[ClancyG]

homage to pistilwipt...

Blue Dream, before & after
note: removed most of the emerged growth tips (below the level of the blue tape on the wall)

Going into flower, will take another pic in 2 wks to show her after the next round of pruning.

 

[vertigo0007]

Im in..

 

[Z-ro]

you gotta go way harder if you are doing pistilwhip imo.

 

[Merman]

Any links to some original pistilwipt threads? I searched 'larf' and 'pistilwipt' in this forum (Coco), but didn't get any hits....

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Hey Clancy how's it goin? Good that you are keeping the PW style alive for the new generation.
I'll never forget seeing the size of the Trainwreck buds PW grew using that style. They were like baseballs, wouldn't have believed it if I wasn't holding them myself. Best Trainwreck I ever saw or smoked. I wish he was still around on the boards.

 

[ClancyG]

you gotta go way harder if you are doing pistilwhip imo.

'go way harder'? Can you be specific as to what that means, such as; remove all but one branch, or remove all side branch buds up to the terminal bud... or something like that.

just saying go harder, well, I can only relate to that in the bedroom.

 

[ClancyG]

Any links to some original pistilwipt threads?

No.

They're from the old cannabisworld and/or overgrow sites, circa 2003, as I recall.

Maybe others can post before pruning, after pruning, and finished plant pix.

 

[roll it large]

hi clancy after reading that pistilwhipt thread on the island i gave it a go

heres my results in coco

best before pic i have sorry

pistilwipt went to town on these and thought shit maybe too much

zero popcorn just primo colas

sorry bout the quality of the photos i misplaced the digi camera leads

the average wieght was 3oz per plant in 15ltr airpots i had major probs with this grow but they still turned out good in the end

peace

 

[roll it large]

few more pic

peace

 

[ClancyG]

after reading that pistilwhipt thread on the island i gave it a go

heres my results in coco

pistilwipt went to town on these and thought shit maybe too much.... zero popcorn just primo colas

Textbook example!

Pistilwipt method is an alternative to using a double screen to choose, arrange, expose, and develop only those flowering sites nearest the top of the plant.

With a 1kw, my 'sweet spot' is something like 6" below the glass down to 20" below the glass (ymmv).

Developing/training the new, young plant to grow with the 'right' number of leading branches, and topping those to get the 'right' number of final branch tips is both art&science and is very strain-dependant. Some plants aren't happy about being topped late in veg (Deadwood, PUrple Rom), some are (mainly the biggest stretchers like my GhostOG & Blue Dream).

When do YOU prune? And how much? All at one time, or multiple?

For example, I find that by cleaning out much side growth tips, but not removing the leaves from the main branches seems to stall the plant for a day or 3. My intuition says don't go all OCD and keep pinching out side growth every day, but maybe onc every week or so. Also, I don't think it's a great idea to take out too much 'early', but rather let the plant develop bushy, then clean it out in two 'prunings' 10 & 4 days b4 flowering, about half each time.

YOUR thoughts?

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Goes against what people say is a safe time to strip but when growing horizontally I'd produce massive colas by literally stripping everything at day 1 flower.. all the way up to the top flower site.. like a palm tree. Would look very drastic when I did it.

I'd do another thinning around day 14 of flower.

Pictures lost after an account deletion, but damn near SoQuick size colas where the result with the right strain.


Tried searching google for cache of the thread, but account was already deleted/guest once google crawled it.

Here is an old shot where I was doing it, but not quite as drastically as I later did.

 

[michmedclones]

people like to argue about it and there of course will always be variable but in MY room, and MY room only I've found this to be very beneficial. I am NOT saying it raised my yields, but it kills trimming time, and you get the biggest best buds you're going to have. Either get you a nice 3' full bush and put her in the there and go bat shit crazy, anything that isn't a main branch you need to take off, anything below 3-5" below the main cola needs to go, all inner branching and leaves all go. For vertical I do it just a bit differently to fill the gaps and use the light more efficiently but when I was running horizontal this was the way to go. With vert I just leave the best side branches per main branch to fill the gaps, also train them with stakes and ties. The yield will be the same, maybe half oz less per plant but that is certainly made up in the time you save and the quality of your buds. I got 7oz off of a non pruned plant, and 6 and 1/4 off of the PW plant, all same strain, pheno, veg and flower time, flowered next to each other and pulled the same day, but out of the 7oz on the non pruned plant I got at least 1 oz of bs popcorn and with the PW you literally get zero trash and great trim for hash making if you trim tight

 

[roll it large]

hi Clancy that's it for the trimming bro didn't remove any leaves either as this plant has a massive calyx to leaf ratio

got the same plant going now 16 under a 1k no trimming al do the same for the next grow but wip those larf sites off and watch the difference I should have done it this run but I've been slacking over the festive period so al let em do there own thing this time

peace

 

[SeaMaiden]

Tagged along, nice to see the ClancyG and some of the great work people are posting here. Zero larf is right.

 

[ClancyG]

Extreme? maybe not! Flower Farmer proposed removing all but the terminal bud, then going in again for more thinning - My own experience doing that was only positive on the stretchiest strains. Stubby strains seemed to do better for me with a couple/few side branch sites left on. For a true trophy cola ID, I agree that all side buds can come off.

Hi Seamaiden! Always glad to have you in one of my threads! Really happy to see others' use of this technique.

Seems to me that the gals/guys that really knock it over the fence are also using some form of netting to maximize bud arrangement/density on the table, also laying the branch down flat. Haven't figger'd out how to do that in my garden yet- too much mix of short/tall or stretchy/not plants.

 

[ClancyG]

Hi, are you the same Clancy I remember from ....?

Yep, was my magritte showing? You've got a nice place here A IC.

Sorry to have to post this but I can't PM yet (still need to hit 50 posts - gotta work on my average).

16.

 

[siftedunity]

after my last nightmare trimming session i thought of doing this. ive not heard of Pistilwipt but i thought i migh get four colas per plant a cut everything else off befor it gets a chance to produce crap.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

I know a few growers who do just that.

At 16 plants per 1000w light (4x4) they'll top the plant, and then top it again to create 4 colas.. everything else gets stripped to the top active site.

Seems to fill the tray perfectly and leave you with 64 colas to trim.. almost as if you did a 64 plant (per 1K) sea of green.

 

[SeaMaiden]

My oldest boy leaves the last three bud sites on the branch, but he doesn't SOG the same way I do, he pays attention to plant count. Since I can grow as many individual plants as I like here as long as it's indoors, I prefer to use a SOG method where I grow a whole bunch of single- to triple-cola plants. Either way, whipping any indoor grown plant is a must, IMO, or you will do as sifted has and spend an eternity trimming nightmarish popcorn buds. It's the one thing that I really love better about indoor cultivation as compared to outdoor, because there's almost no trimming to be done by the time they're ready for harvest.

Let me see if I can share some (old) pix. Uh... ok, I think my technique has become a little more refined, but hell if I took pix of it. This screen of green grow was my last, then I switched to sea of green.

 

[ClancyG]

both ways

both ways

here's a test plant, a seed run from a single seed, found in an acapulco gold x c99 flower, had been hit with the white
(pretty sure that was the order - will edit this if I get more accurate info)

She's 10 days into flower, one side is cleaned up p'wipt-style, the other was left to see how she naturally grows.\

Will post as she goes along.