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headband 707

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Wow c-ray your really into this which is kewl and I find the whole thing fasinating and I like your findings bra nice job headband 707
 

DrFever

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C-ray even tho some studies have bin done with growth and magnetics there probably is a still allot to learn as a person who actually used magnets in my plants as for this thread i think some growers are starting to see from your posts and others that the non believers of magnetic growing are starting to raise a eyebrow

from people that use magnetic bracelets for there illness to actual cancer therapy magnetics is used more then many think
presently doing a grow where magnetic water is being applied with nutrients and everything
I will also shortly take clones and will see if magnetic water has actually shorten my rooting days will post updates when the clone experiment commences
 
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c-ray

I agree..

I just remembered an interesting effect of the magnetized water.. I was doing some germination tests and putting seeds in a glass of magnetized water for an overnight soak the next morning I noticed the seeds were still on the surface of the water, so I let them be for a couple days and they remained on the surface of the water and continued to germinate without sinking.. this is an easy enough experiment to replicate, but I was spinning the water in the mag blender so that may be part of it.. I will try that again when I get the mini turbo vortex magneto rig set up..
 

trichrider

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i've got some magnets.

one of those is to magnetize screwdrivers. gonna clamp it around the stem of a clone as soon as i take cuts and get some roots.

i'll try different configurations also, with N/N, N/S, N/N/N/N (square pots), S/S/S/S, N/S/N/S.

with several plants in a control group. yeh that's the ticket...

after that i'm going to do a coil around the pot...or at the same time. 8 groups? is that too many for a simple experiment? this may take longer than i thought. room restrictions.
 
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c-ray

8 groups? is that too many for a simple experiment?

well it will give an idea of perhaps which configurations to focus on..

I'd say though for a good experiment one would want a few cuts of each configuration represented, see what the average is per configuration with 4 cuts for instance per configuration

how do you plan to control the intensity of the light per plant though? a vertical hanging light with all cuts placed equidistantly from the edge of the light perhaps?
 

DrFever

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i've got some magnets.

one of those is to magnetize screwdrivers. gonna clamp it around the stem of a clone as soon as i take cuts and get some roots.

i'll try different configurations also, with N/N, N/S, N/N/N/N (square pots), S/S/S/S, N/S/N/S.

with several plants in a control group. yeh that's the ticket...

after that i'm going to do a coil around the pot...or at the same time. 8 groups? is that too many for a simple experiment? this may take longer than i thought. room restrictions.
I think you might be better off having it magnetized prior to entering the plant i mean like magnetized water think of it this way always better to have a filter in front of a carberator of a engine rather then behind it ???? kinda defeats the purpose
 

trichrider

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yep. too many. will have to rotate the experimental configurations.

control, N/N, S/S, tool magnatizer in first group.
control, N/S, N/N/N/N, S/S/S/S in second group.

t5 bank will cover four specimens equally well.
temps, medium, water all same.

saving the treated water for another time.
 

trichrider

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well, i was looking at a representative sample of a control group. 14 clones. thing is they had variations of up to 6", so the only way to quantize results is by weight. serious difficulty determining any effect with that sample.

on a more positive note, while fiddling with some magnets, i happened to drag it by a pile of seeds and they responded to the flux. wigged me out some truthfully, but proved that those seeds have their own field that interacts with a magnets.

DrFever i believe your experiment was faulty because of the law of inverse ratio of which magnets must comply. possible that your magnets were beyond their effective range. my experiment will use much smaller containers and stronger magnets (N48), keeping them within inches of the rootball at all times. not that i'm faulting your approach, on the contrary, i'm trying to avoid some of the pitfalls you encountered.

C-ray...i gots a boat named that...j/k. thanks for the articles. a real boost to know there are others thinking on their own. do you have any good advice for proving beyond a doubt whether or not we can get measurable results dicking around with this?

seems to me without verifiable means we're pissin in the wind.
 

Adze

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trichrider,

I just tired to repeat the effect you observed when moving a magnet close to some seeds. I have strong magnet that I moved very close the seeds. They were on a piece of glass so there was little friction. I even tried it from underneath, still no movement. I was trying to verify your observation. Not trying to call you on this, just wondering how this interesting effect was achieved.
 
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c-ray

C-ray...i gots a boat named that...j/k. thanks for the articles. a real boost to know there are others thinking on their own. do you have any good advice for proving beyond a doubt whether or not we can get measurable results dicking around with this?

seems to me without verifiable means we're pissin in the wind.

measure the plant sap brix and plant sap pH.. if the brix goes up higher and the plant sap pH gets closer to 6.4 (ideal plant sap pH), compared to the controls, then it is a success.. rising plant sap pH = increasing plant vitality.. plant sap pH will stabilize @ 6.4 when the plant is healthiest

I use a refractometer to measure the brix, using 2 spoons and a pair of vice grips to squeeze the sap out of one good sized leaf.. then I take hydrion brand 5.5-8.0 pH papers and swab the sap left on the refractometer to get the pH..

some reading that may help in this thought process:
http://bionutrient.org/sites/all/files/docs/Nutrition_Rules/GSait_Plant_Health-Energy_Management.pdf
 

Stonefree69

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Hey I found super strong neodymuim magnets a lot cheaper than the other link I gave. They're from CMS Magnets (magnetforsale.com). About $9 for a 72 lb. pull force vs $42. One thing about their pull force as demonstrated is these magnets have REACH! :D
 

Hank Hemp

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I'm speaking from experience now, be careful when you turn the magnets on. I pulled all the nails out of my sheet rock. Let's not talk about my belt buckle. But seriously y'll don't you thinks this hasn't been tried before? I saw the pics of those god awful talking cuttings earlier, I can get the same results putting mine too far from my t-5's. Agri-business would have been all over this.
 

Stonefree69

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I'm speaking from experience now, be careful when you turn the magnets on. I pulled all the nails out of my sheet rock. Let's not talk about my belt buckle. But seriously y'll don't you thinks this hasn't been tried before? I saw the pics of those god awful talking cuttings earlier, I can get the same results putting mine too far from my t-5's. Agri-business would have been all over this.
They can also easily break your fingers when 2 come together if you're not careful, even if you're on steroids. Pry apart w/screwdriver.
 

trichrider

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I'm speaking from experience now, be careful when you turn the magnets on. I pulled all the nails out of my sheet rock. Let's not talk about my belt buckle. But seriously y'll don't you thinks this hasn't been tried before? I saw the pics of those god awful talking cuttings earlier, I can get the same results putting mine too far from my t-5's. Agri-business would have been all over this.

here's my take Hank.
agro would have to invest in expensive magnetic tech, and it is expensive. too damned expensive for the scale you must admit agro has to abide.
that's just an opinion, and so far an ill informed one...but we're working on it!

saw a video not too long ago with marco rodin demonstrating a monopole magnet...if it is real then things are going to happen in the magnetic world...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjW1zROJPc
 
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