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Peek into Avi's Mostly Vert Room of Many Flavors

Avinash.miles

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The Ladies:
Almost all the plants in the room are clones. mixed strains bigtime....
some from a pal: 707, chem4, ssh, 2 testers from a pal labeled "haze#3" &"haze4" (pretty sure they are from hazeman seeds that he grew out, told me the 4 is better)
the rest from me: drizella, a couple keeper(ish) phenos of flo x white ogk from my last run. could be forgetting one or 2....
***this is the kind of scenario proves the superiority of a monocrop, ha. despite the mixed bag, they will must come down by the middle of february, giving them 10 full weeks if they need it.

The Details:
Medium: Promix hp amended w EWC & perlite (some got chunky some not),
Nutes: GH floraseries @ lucas levels (or slightly lower) w floralicious, protekt, calmag, liquid kool bloom (just started giving it to them now day 10 last watering). Gave some foliar feedings of N in veg and some 0-1-1 foliar in first week foliar feeding (3d organics nutrients brand)
Environment: Lights on temps around 77-87, lights off lowest the temps drop is 60 but usually stays 68-75. def hav low low humidity (not something i'm able to address at the moment, but open to suggestions). What details am i leaving out?

The Lights:
4x vert 1kw lights w plant circles around each bulb
1k bulb hung horizontal w econowing reflector in the center over where the 4 circles of plants come together and form a dark spot.
flip in to flowering was about ten days ago,
gave them 2 full days of dark to "induce" flowering and to get the timers in order.

here's a lil sumn i threw 2gether in paint:
red circles are vert bulbs and yellow is horizontal & green is ladies
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^ the 6 in passive intake (blue) is just a duct w light damper in it that pulls fresh air when exhausts are on (grey), nothing comes thru it when exhausts are off. Also, the two lights on the right have slightly taller plants around them, and the lights on left of the above diagram have shorter plants around them, altho in both cases i feel the "lite donuts" are pretty full of plant matter... perhaps a lil too fullof green.

Please excuse my super ghetto method of converting econo wings into vert fixtures:

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^^ here is a shot from along the exhaust in the corner. you can see the edge of the econo-wing style reflector.

oh ya, instead of muffin fans under the lights like erry1 is doin.... i lst'd a plant down to fan out under the bulb, yes i know this is a dark spot, the dark center of the donut, but i had the plants, they are extras... flo x grimms from seed, continuing that lil pheno hunt.

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^^^see that plant sprawled out down there where the muffin fan should be? just tryin to get the most out of the space, I don't have much issue w heat in the room if the fans all work (which they do), so i stuffed some plants down there, had to keep them tied down well.
VVVVV
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Im happy to have a thread in the vert section...
What Y'all think?

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GMax

I love it multiple donuts ftw

the only thing you can do for humidity is add a humidifier really.. I dunno where you are but around here those things are seasonal at walmarts...at least for a larger one.. and none of the models I have used have been able to be modified to be topped off..so they require manual refilling almost every day..so I gave up on the whole thing

but I just got a crappy $20 humidifier.. I don't even use it anymore because the humidity has been in check in veg without it..but before it was down to 50% and I said fuck it... but now is the season, and I seen a extra large room digital humidifier at walmart the other day, cant remember how much, but I am afraid I will buy it and try to modify it and break it.. it said it required refilling every 24-36hrs...

there is other cheaper ways, but that will give you the best control... if you are exchanging with outside air, that is one of the downfalls... you are at the mercy of whatever mother nature and/or climate is putting out and it requires other equipment to keep environment in check

I don't even do exchanges with outside air, but the temperature etc outside still seems to affects the rest of the house that is not the grow...making it hotter/drier/damper/cooler depending on the time of year (no central AC) and you will see me flip flopping between humidifiers/dehueys depending on when it is ...

also depending on the stage of the plants and their needs will affect environment

I enjoyed your mega grow... I got my popcorn
 

Avinash.miles

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thanks for tuning in Gmax, & thanks for the input.
no humidity outside to speak of anytime of the year in CO... just dry all the time for the most part. my veg stays nice n humid, but for the flowering spaces ive considered going the 20$ route for humidifiers, dont even mind refilling on the daily.... just wasnt sure if it would really make a dent in a room w 5 lites & 2 8in. exhausts & i hate wastin $$ on shit then never using it (who doesnt).
 

Avinash.miles

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im thinkin the room needs a lil thinning of sucker branches & fans, it is really dense in there.
 

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Glad to have you D!
i think i'll call the LST'd ones in the center under the bulbs "shade grown".....
 
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DHF

Hydrofogger.com hooked to a humidistat and your worries are over .....but.....

It`s best used in a lungroom with the raised RH pumped into and sucked out continuously ftw......Can`t have any fog settlin on bare bulbs or they go boom.......

Whole house humidifiers put out larger micron sized droplets than foggers , so there`s things ta ponder bout uppin yer RH to 70% till end of stretch Bro...but.....Hell.....

You got it made in da mtns after stretch is over and the plants are in full swellage with that crisp clean LOW rh mtn air........me ?...

I hadta run dehuey`s 24/7 with air exchange out the ass to prevent airborn nasties.......anyways.......

Gladta have yas start a thread Bro.......We appreciate the time and effort......and.....I think the bare bulbs morphed from the reflector housing`s cool .....where there`s a will there`s a way......now....

In the future I see that middle light as a bare bulb with another weed doughnut woven in and around the other doughnuts with similar sized plants monocropped......I`m just sayin.......:moon:....

You know I fuck with everybody bout monocroppin down here and almost NOBODY does it , so just initiatin yas into the twisted kids forum......regardless.......

Shit looks good and can only get better with dialage , so holler if I can help and......

Peace......DHF.....:ying:.....
 

catalyte

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looking great in there. Like DHF said RH in the 50-70% range is paramount to yields under lights.

simple and efficient room. Nice plants too :yes:
 

megayields

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AVI - my man!! I am SOOO happy your doing your own thread! This is going to be AWESOME!....I love what your doing (especially since your running so many strains, I am addicted to running multiple strains!)

I am SO subbed to this thread!



....pssst I am going to start a new thread in the greenhouse area that will be off dah hook mang!
 

Avinash.miles

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Hydrofogger.com hooked to a humidistat and your worries are over .....but.....

It`s best used in a lungroom with the raised RH pumped into and sucked out continuously ftw......Can`t have any fog settlin on bare bulbs or they go boom.......

Whole house humidifiers put out larger micron sized droplets than foggers , so there`s things ta ponder bout uppin yer RH to 70% till end of stretch Bro...but.....Hell.....

You got it made in da mtns after stretch is over and the plants are in full swellage with that crisp clean LOW rh mtn air........me ?...

I hadta run dehuey`s 24/7 with air exchange out the ass to prevent airborn nasties.......anyways.......

Gladta have yas start a thread Bro.......We appreciate the time and effort......and.....I think the bare bulbs morphed from the reflector housing`s cool .....where there`s a will there`s a way......now....

In the future I see that middle light as a bare bulb with another weed doughnut woven in and around the other doughnuts with similar sized plants monocropped......I`m just sayin.......:moon:....

You know I fuck with everybody bout monocroppin down here and almost NOBODY does it , so just initiatin yas into the twisted kids forum......regardless.......

Shit looks good and can only get better with dialage , so holler if I can help and......

Peace......DHF.....:ying:.....

glad to have y'all here, not just DHF, but MRd, Gmx, Vilgrn, mrclean cut bugman all yal, glad have yall.

mono crop ya i feel ya, addicted to pheno hunts and flavs, thats all i can say.
& ya i agree & last barebulb incenter being vert not "zont", but for me, in this setting, its simply a square footage vs size of plants # o plants issue.

thanks again 4 stopn in yall.

as far as dehuyes... sold mine hope i never need it again, till a state in the south goes med (or better goodluck) ill stay in high & DRY. I miss the dirty dirty, but whatevs, no tolerance gets no love.

if i understand what ur sayin freds....
go to the link, spend 100+$ on a specialized unit over a whole house humidy whic peeps install here in homes and go for at eleast 100$

anyhow

otherswise, dhf, ur sayin
RH bein high(er) is only more advantageous DURING stretch, not so much after, then high n dry is okely dokely?

once again, no sq ftage for a lung room, whatsup w humidity on bare bulbs, do u need humidity at nite? or day? Lites on vs lites on humidity? havent memorized them stats.. lol fill me in plz.

thnks again yall for stoppin thru @ my thread... gonna start another couple soon i think....:tiphat:

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Avinash.miles

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AVI - my man!! I am SOOO happy your doing your own thread! This is going to be AWESOME!....I love what your doing (especially since your running so many strains, I am addicted to running multiple strains!)

I am SO subbed to this thread!



....pssst I am going to start a new thread in the greenhouse area that will be off dah hook mang!
:woohoo::woohoo::laughing:


thanks mega glad 2 have u here

btw

tho

started my own lil drizella thread a while back w lil response really.... had to come to vert to get any attention....

:thank you:

ill be sure to check the greenhouse thread bud.
 
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DHF

Do a search on VPD/vapor pressure deficit and you`ll see how important elevated RH levels are to the plants till they hit full swellage mode Bro...and yeah......

If excess moisture hits lit bulbs they can explode , and elevated RH levels during lights off is what usually causes airborn pathogens to form on the plants during late bloomage so it`s no bueno......that said.....

RH below 50% after end of stretch till end of cycle is advised , as well as major air exchange twice per minute start to finish , but some folks run sealed rooms with CO2 supplements and risk the molds and mildews forming from spiked RH levels during lights off in late flower ......so.......

Things to ponder.......Holler if I can help.......

Peace....DHF.....:ying:......
 

Avinash.miles

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^^ty DHF
so i guess i missed the boat on this round to give that elevated RH during stretch, kinda, eh?

Hey Avi
How many of the Flo X Grimms you got in that jungle?

im not 100% sure vg, but im gonna say..... 3
ill spend some quality time in there to get a count & complete strain list, im sure i left a couple out.

Im pretty sure i have air exchage covered, 2x 8in centrifugal fans on 8 in. ducting for exhaust, just switched out the 6in passive intake for 8in, that should help draw plenty to replace air in the room, eh?

gotta get in there and clean up the growth a lil as well, prolly start that up tomorrw.

any other suggestions?
 
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Do a search on VPD/vapor pressure deficit and you`ll see how important elevated RH levels are to the plants till they hit full swellage mode Bro...and yeah......

If excess moisture hits lit bulbs they can explode , and elevated RH levels during lights off is what usually causes airborn pathogens to form on the plants during late bloomage so it`s no bueno......that said.....

RH below 50% after end of stretch till end of cycle is advised , as well as major air exchange twice per minute start to finish , but some folks run sealed rooms with CO2 supplements and risk the molds and mildews forming from spiked RH levels during lights off in late flower ......so.......

Things to ponder.......Holler if I can help.......

Peace....DHF.....:ying:......
I grow in seald room with co2 i never had mold mildew i live in the south every body not perfict
 

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^^^ could the low RH in stretch be causing this leaf clawing? def. not overwatered, that's what i sometimes associate w the claw...
 

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