do you know anyone that smokes weed and got ANY form of cancer?

[Dislexus]

If you get WealthTV they have a show Marijauna: The Miracle Cure in 10 mins. Might be worth checking out.

[...] That was well put together for a 30 min segment, very concise. Started with assertive medical case, then financial case, then political case. Seems made by young republican/libertarians and targeted at others on the right. Had a guy towards the end even saying it would probably take a second term conservative coming out against prohibition. But then ended with an Obama quote against the drug war and advocating decriminalization, who is now second term.. He might hold his cards until after the midterm elections but pretty sure the next couple of years are going to be very interesting. If Supreme Court says its Congress' right to regulate maybe it becomes a big campaign issue for the midterms for a congress already with >10% approval rating.

The Israel angle was interesting.

 

[immaculate]

Cannabis smoking inhibiting cancer is bullshit. Weed smokersget cancer all thefucking time. Im so sick of thebullshitpropoganda were all guilty of spreading. Tommy chong has cancer. Shocking

This dumbass statement simply comes from a lack of comprehension of the situation.

When it comes to cannabis's anti-cancer properties, it seems it is only effectual in certain forms at certain doses. As a matter of fact, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW BECAUSE NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO STUDY IT WITHOUT INHIBITION.

If you think the argument goes that simply smoking weed stops cancer, you don't get it at all. And if you listen to and take seriously people who propagate that line of thought, you're wasting your own time, and everybody else's. Stop kicking shit out of the litterbox.

Interesting how America and Americans will prostrate at the Jew's every whim -- politically, economically, socially -- except when it comes to cannabis. Why won't the U.S. follow Israel's lead in this particular case?

 

[budbasket]

my dads had cancer twice, hes blazed since the 60s

 

[SeaMaiden]

Yeah, my buddy is 55, been smoking herb since he was 12 or 13. Heavy toker. He was diagnosed with malignant melanoma last year. Had a big chunk of his shoulder removed, along with some lymph nodes and a skin graft. Poor bastard has been on Interferon, which screws with his blood forcing him to take Coumadin. He can go off the Coumadin once he finishes with the Interferon.

I had a dear friend who fought, and WON the battle against malignant melanoma twice. He was also a cannabis, and unfortunately an inveterate tobacco smoker. It was the lung cancer that finally got him, may he rest in peace. He was the person who convinced me to try that very first experiment 10 years ago that proved well enough for and to me that cannabis DOES have medicinal qualities. Thank you, Ed. I think about you all the time.

K, another question (OrganicBuds asked the other question that was in my head). Alzheimer's. It runs in my family (as do non-lethal brain tumors), and I've been smoking pretty much all my life with a few periods of no smoke like during pregnancy and nursing, while looking for work, or when it was really, really dry. Is there anyone who also has a family history of Alzheimer's or who knows someone who they think might have prevented onset of Alzheimer's because of their smoking/intake habits?

 

[Wiggs Dannyboy]

Not sure if everyone who visits IC Mag knows about the medicinal marijuana forum, but it seems like this would be a good place/time/thread to post a link to it for any who don't know about it.

It is here:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=7

And here is a thread within that, called Granny Storm Crow's List:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=7

It's basically a very long list of studies done regarding cannabis and how it affects certain illnesses/diseases.

SeaMaiden...there is a section of that list that deals with alzheimers, I made a copy of the list, here ya go:


ALZHEIMER'S

MARIJUANA SLOWS ALZHEIMER'S DECLINE
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n307/a10.html

Marijuana may block Alzheimer's
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm

Prevention of Alzheimer's Disease Pathology by Cannabinoids
http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/content/abstract/25/8/1904

Marijuana's Active Ingredient Shown to Inhibit Primary Marker of Alzheimer's Disease
http://www.pacifier.com/~alive/articles/ca060809.htm

Dronabinol in the treatment of agitation in patients with Alzheimer’s disease with anorexia
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=61

Dronabinol in the treatment of refractory agitation in Alzheimer’s disease
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=92

Effects of dronabinol on anorexia and disturbed behavior in patients with Alzheimer's disease.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/...ow.php?s_id=59

Cannabinoids reduce the progression of Alzheimer's disease in animals
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=187#1

Molecular Link between the Active Component of Marijuana and Alzheimer's Disease Pathology
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli...ease_Pathology

THC inhibits primary marker of Alzheimer's disease
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=225#3

Cannabinoid receptor stimulation is anti-inflammatory and improves memory in old rats
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

Alzheimer's disease; taking the edge off with cannabinoids?
http://www.nature.com/bjp/journal/v1.../0707446a.html

US Patent 6630507 - Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507.html

Cannabidiol in vivo blunts β-amyloid induced neuroinflammation by suppressing IL-1β and iNOS expression
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez

Inflammation and aging: can endocannabinoids help?
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez

Anti-inflammatory property of the cannabinoid agonist WIN-55212-2 in a rodent model of chronic brain inflammation
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...tool=pmcentrez

Hope this helps ya!

 

[NorCal]

Danny boy thanks for taking the time to post all those links. I completely forgot about the medical forum.

 

[anditwasfun]

My friend's cousin I met once passed away today actually...RIP...I don't know if he smoked regularly, but I know he did to some extent, as well as drink/smoke cigs...he's around my age, 25 or so.

 

[THC123]

@ dannyboy


smoking anything promotes cancerous growth even if MJ has anti tumoral properties.

Ingesting oil or vaping ok on that point i am with ya , but smoking cannabis can cause lots of nasty things starting with less lung volume

i love herb but lets be realistic

 

[Wiggs Dannyboy]

@ dannyboy


smoking anything promotes cancerous growth even if MJ has anti tumoral properties.

Ingesting oil or vaping ok on that point i am with ya , but smoking cannabis can cause lots of nasty things starting with less lung volume

i love herb but lets be realistic

Your statement about inhaling smoke, in general, is true. But life is full of things that seem, on first look, to be true...but when examined close up, turn out to be untrue. It's called counterintuitive. For instance, quantum mechanics paints a picture of our reality that doesn't even come close to what our eyes tell us. As hard as it is to believe what this modern science is telling us, it is true. Our brain has a filtering ability that makes it possible for us to navigate the crazy quantum world of waves and such.

Here are a few studies from that list I posted found in the medical cannabis forum. This isn't a complete lists, I didn't want to go read all of them again...I did that already, don't have enough time to do it again.

You should be able to provide links that support your argument if you believe it is true. Just having an opinion really doesn't count.

Here ya go:

No association between lung cancer and cannabis smoking in large study
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/...l.php?id=219#2

Marijuana Smoking Found Non-Carcinogenic
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Hematolo...Cancer/tb/3393

CLAIM #4: MARIJUANA CAUSES LUNG DISEASE
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...is_myth4.shtml

Marijuana Ingredients Slow Invasion by Cervical and Lung Cancer Cells
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/200...r-in-test-tube

Marijuana May Fight Lung Tumors
http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/new...ht-lung-tumors

Anti-Tumor Effects
http://www.ukcia.org/research/AntiTumorEffects.htm

None of these studies say that if you smoke weed you are protected from having lung cancer. They do indicate that the smoke from cannabis has anti-cancer properties, though, and I am happy that scientific studies are telling me this.

 

[gonzo`]

thanks for the links dannyboy

 

[THC123]

thats a nice piece of text but that doesnt change the fact that when i only vape and not smoke my lungs feel much bettersmoking is not adviseable

 

[SeaMaiden]

thats a nice piece of text but that doesnt change the fact that when i only vape and not smoke my lungs feel much bettersmoking is not adviseable

And I far prefer smoking, don't hack up a lung when I do smoke, and don't have respiratory problems. What now?

 

[pearlemae]

Two brothers both smoked a lot of weed. One my youngest bro passed in 97 cancer of a virulent type killed him in 6 months. My oldest bro had colon cancer, operated and removed it,chemo, radiation the whole bit. Radiation gave him leukemia two years later, he's beat that, now the colon cancer is back only in his liver now. Surgery in 3 days. He has been on oil for a while now. As for smoking and cancer.. well if your going to get cancer smoking isn't going to stop it, or prevent it. Perhaps if you make smoothies from raw cannabis it would help.

 

[THC123]

And I far prefer smoking, don't hack up a lung when I do smoke, and don't have respiratory problems. What now?

Now nothing....

You can say what you want but if I dont smoke anything at all during a month my lung capacity is better, you probably dont even remember what it is like to be without smoke for a LONG time or do you?(could be of course)

When i smoke mj i also dont hack up lungs or have respiratory problems, i just notice a lil cough after a long time of constant use and a significant reduction of lung capacity(this clears up 2 weeks after i stop smoking)

Even vaping has its minor influence on lung capacity(if you vape a lot like I do)

Why does do some react like a lil child that feels attacked

One more time I love smoking and vaping mj but just be a bit realistic please

 

[Truthman]

I think cannabis itself may inhibit cancer, but just because you smoke it doesn't mean you will not get cancer. It's the whole diet, and lifestyle , that helps cannabis do it's thing. In fact smoking cannabis isn't the best route to get the health effects of cannabis because you aren't getting the cannabinoids into the immune system as much as you would if you ate the cannabis with the proper foods. Also, exercising helps your body make use of the cannabis much better then not doing much.

Smoking may not cause cancer, but the smoke is still making your body work much harder then it needs to if you were not smoking anything. If you eat foods that force your body to work hard to detoxify these chemicals in the food, as well as just living in the world we live in(being in a drivers seat increases your chance of sickness), smoking cannabis isn't going to do anything but slow down the progresison of the cannabis, but it will still happen. If you ate, vaporized, and smoked cannabis once in a while, while eating the proper foods, as well as doing good exercises, the cannabis WILL inhibit cancers as well as strengthen the immune system to prevent sickness in the first place. Unfortunately, most people don't want to change their diets, and lifestyle so the strengths of cannabis won't be seen in most people. Don't hate me just giving my opinion on what I'm seeing from people in this world.

http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/content/169/8/934.full.pdf
Particulate Matter Exposure in Cars Is Associated with
Cardiovascular Effects in Healthy Young Men

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^Good post

i know people that stopped smoking weed and then got cancer and then started again and it went away, and they stopped weed again and they died. the moral of the story is weed helps prevents cancer when you live an American lifestyle, but may not stop it forever. 40 percent of all deaths are from cancer and 40 percent is from heart disease. they other 20 percent is from dumb shit like car accidents and what not.

 

[SeaMaiden]

Now nothing....

You can say what you want but if I dont smoke anything at all during a month my lung capacity is better, you probably dont even remember what it is like to be without smoke for a LONG time or do you?(could be of course)

When i smoke mj i also dont hack up lungs or have respiratory problems, i just notice a lil cough after a long time of constant use and a significant reduction of lung capacity(this clears up 2 weeks after i stop smoking)

Even vaping has its minor influence on lung capacity(if you vape a lot like I do)

Why does do some react like a lil child that feels attacked

One more time I love smoking and vaping mj but just be a bit realistic please

I'm a scuba diver, and have been diving for decades. My tank use rates are pretty much the same as they've ever been. I naturally use more in more air strenuous diving situations, such as strong current.

My point is that you're making an assertion as unequivocal--smoking anything is bad--and your point is flawed as evidenced by the science Wiggs Dannyboy presented. We all used to believe that by smoking cannabis we'd be increasing our chances of a cancer such as metastatic lung cancer (which is sort of the point of this thread, being as how it's a question about cancer), and now the science is showing otherwise.

See, you first asserted that smoking anything promotes cancerous growth. Do you have anything to back up that assertion? That's right up there with folks asserting that powdery mildew will get people sick--got anything to back that up?

My mind is open, it's why some folks seem to think I'm delusional since I try to make myself willing and open to ideas and concepts. But I do require something a bit more than a rather open statement somewhere in the ethers of the internet as proof.

 

[accessndx]

i knew it was too good to be true..

Just because some folks got cancer doesn't mean there's no protective effect. The effects however may only span some types of cancer and ultimately as much as I'm anathema to say it may have a provocative impact on other types of cancer.
Don't forget that alot is also based on a multitude of other factors such as smoking tobacco, diet, environmental stressors and genetics.

There's rarely 1 singular culprit or savior.