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Reporting from Seattle, A Smoker's Perspective

huligun

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I have been relocated to the Seattle area in the past 3 months and live in the city. I will offer the perspective of a Seattle resident on what is happening. Although there are a lot of people that feel this is a big mess, so far it really isn't. The police are cooperating well, and not even arresting people that are clearly breaking the law (as in smoking in public). We cannot assume that will always be the case, but for now it is a big party in the emerald city.

Now that marijuana is officially legal in Washington there is a ton of news. Every news broadcast has at least one story on the subject and at the end of the segment the rules of the game are repeated. I seen a story today where they were reporting on something that would have never made news in the past 40 years, a teenager was found at school with small bags of marijuana. After the segment the reported reminded everyone that only those over 21 are allowed to possess marijuana under the new law.

Here is one story from one of the local broadcast today.

Smokers celebrate legalization of marijuana




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The Associated Press
SEATTLE —
The crowds of happy people lighting joints under Seattle's Space Needle early Thursday morning with nary a police officer in sight bespoke the new reality: Marijuana is legal under Washington state law.

Hundreds gathered at Seattle Center for a New Year's Eve-style countdown to 12 a.m., when the legalization measure passed by voters last month took effect. When the clock struck, they cheered and sparked up in unison.

A few dozen people gathered on a sidewalk outside the north Seattle headquarters of the annual Hempfest celebration and did the same, offering joints to reporters and blowing smoke into television news cameras.

"I feel like a kid in a candy store!" shouted Hempfest volunteer Darby Hageman. "It's all becoming real now!"

Washington and Colorado became the first states to vote to decriminalize and regulate the possession of an ounce or less of marijuana by adults over 21. Both measures call for setting up state licensing schemes for pot growers, processors and retail stores.

Technically, Washington's new marijuana law still forbids smoking pot in public, which remains punishable by a fine, like drinking in public. But pot fans wanted a party, and Seattle police weren't about to write them any tickets.

In dealing with marijuana, the Seattle Police Department told its 1,300 officers on Wednesday, just before legalization took hold, that until further notice they shall not issue citations for public marijuana use.


Officers will be advising people not to smoke in public, police spokesman Jonah Spangenthal-Lee wrote on the SPD Blotter. "The police department believes that, under state law, you may responsibly get baked, order some pizzas and enjoy a `Lord of the Rings' marathon in the privacy of your own home, if you want to." Read a Q &A on legalized marijuana.

He offered a catchy new directive referring to the film "The Big Lebowski," popular with many marijuana fans: "The Dude abides, and says `take it inside!"'

"This is a big day because all our lives we've been living under the iron curtain of prohibition," said Hempfest director Vivian McPeak. "The whole world sees that prohibition just took a body blow."

Washington's new law decriminalizes possession of up to an ounce for those over 21, but for now selling marijuana remains illegal. Watch video of what an once of marijuan looks like. I-502 gives the state a year to come up with a system of state-licensed growers, processors and retail stores, with the marijuana taxed 25 percent at each stage. Analysts have estimated that a legal pot market could bring Washington hundreds of millions of dollars a year in new tax revenue for schools, health care and basic government functions. Read the full text of I-502.

But marijuana remains illegal under federal law. That means federal agents can still arrest people for it, and it's banned from federal properties, including military bases and national parks.

The Justice Department has not said whether it will sue to try to block the regulatory schemes in Washington and Colorado from taking effect.

"The department's responsibility to enforce the Controlled Substances Act remains unchanged," said a statement issued Wednesday by the Seattle U.S. attorney's office. "Neither states nor the executive branch can nullify a statute passed by Congress."

The legal question is whether the establishment of a regulated marijuana market would "frustrate the purpose" of the federal pot prohibition, and many constitutional law scholars say it very likely would.

That leaves the political question of whether the administration wants to try to block the regulatory system, even though it would remain legal to possess up to an ounce of marijuana.

Alison Holcomb is the drug policy director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Washington and served as the campaign manager for New Approach Washington, which led the legalization drive. She said the voters clearly showed they're done with marijuana prohibition.

"New Approach Washington sponsors and the ACLU look forward to working with state and federal officials and to ensure the law is fully and fairly implemented," she said.

Here is a list of FAQ from the Washington State Liquor Control Board about implementing I-502.




http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/smokers-celebrate-legalization-marijuana/nTPWt/
 
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southflorida

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thanks huligan...you are lucky to be experiencing this occuring, and hopefully this all will lead to marijuana becoming legal globally within the next 10 years.
 

huligun

Professor Organic Psychology
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thanks huligan...you are lucky to be experiencing this occuring, and hopefully this all will lead to marijuana becoming legal globally within the next 10 years.

Thanks

It is hard to believe it happened here first (although at the same time as Colorado).

My belief is that the only reason it happened is because of the badly needed tax money that the state government needs to support it's extravagant taste.

The state has tried to tax so many things and has failed with voter initiatives. It has tried high vehicle license, soda and candy taxes, and all seem to fail through voter initiatives usually sponsored by a man named Tim Eimen. The state doesn't get the message that the voters are tired of such high taxes. We feel we are being taxed out of existence. Well, you have a scapegoat come up like the pot heads. Fuck, they are going to smoke legal or not, and when it is illegal then they are a further drain on the state budget. If the pot smokers want a tax program that involves weed the state will not have to be looking like wolves at all the other things so hard. The pot smokers are happy to finally become legal, the state gets some money, maybe some tourist money comes in, and some of the other programs out there are not taxed as heavily.

Me, I am just happy that my hobby is no longer something that can wind me in court, and the cops can't take my buds.

It's really is a win-win for a lot of people.

Smoking on my deck at my townhouse the other day, in the city, I was completely free from arrest or other harassment. If a neighbor had complained about it to me I would have told her to go fuck herself, it is a completely legal thing to do now.
 

yortbogey

To Have More ... Desire Less
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So I've seen a group that is already focusing on Cannabis Tourism... for WA state...
BUT... REALLY... the state is working towards "there program"... for growing, packing, and selling...
MEANING... "they"..the state of WA ... intend to do each and every step...
IE state ran grows... state ran processing facilities...and state ran retail outlets to sell the product...being taxed and stepped on EACH step of the way....

BUT will the State allow... "Coffee Shops"... ie the proverbial cannabis lounge .. as in Amsterdam from days gone by...
will there be public or private gathering places offering other services w/ a cannabis focus...

this i have not heard....

anybody?
 

huligun

Professor Organic Psychology
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The dude abides, take it inside.

I love it.......

Yeah it is all fun and games up here. Everyone seems so happy. Like kids, smoking and not worrying about it at all. Even in public.


As for tourism, it will take many forms. People are going to cross state and the Canadian border more to just get high. It will be fun for them, just like all of us, just to get high freely. Even if you have to buy it illegally.

I see a lot of people coming over here just for a look see.
 

Stoner4Life

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BUT will the State allow... "Coffee Shops"... ie the proverbial cannabis lounge .. as in Amsterdam from days gone by...
will there be public or private gathering places offering other services w/ a cannabis focus...

this i have not heard....

anybody?

my opinion is no coffee shops, a lot of 'weed tourism' but I don't know how they'll circumvent the ban on smoking in public buildings. Dispensaries might be looked at differently but recreational users will have to comply with current regulations.......
 

huligun

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Hash Zeppelin

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I bet the police love this. they can focus on real crime, like finding dude's rug. I bet it gets old having to stop what you are doing to deal with some guy with some herb that was not even doing anything. I bet the courts love it too. they can go ahead an have lots of room in jail to keep the pederasses.
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huligun

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I bet the police love this. they can focus on real crime, like finding dude's rug. I bet it gets old having to stop what you are doing to deal with some guy with some herb that was not even doing anything. I bet the courts love it too. they can go ahead an have lots of room in jail to keep the pederasses.
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Do we have any leads? We are working shifts on it now
 
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mugenbao

what is the law concerning personal pot cultivation?
Not allowed. If you have a medical rec. you can still grow, that is unchanged. Otherwise, you won't be able to legally grow your own.
 

theJointedOne

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I would take that to court sooo quick.

I mean cmon, how are they going to tell you its ok to ingest but you cant make it at home? Not plausible.
 

megayields

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Day 1 of Legal Pot Marred by Deaths at Alleged Wash. Growing Center

Day 1 of Legal Pot Marred by Deaths at Alleged Wash. Growing Center

Note: I was born in Seattle, in some ways I am pleased people have access to their medication, but that still doesn't mean all the problem's have been solved...I bet those two rippers NEVER thought today would be their last day on earth.

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The first day of legal marijuana use in Washington State was marred by an attempted robbery ending with two deaths at an alleged pot-growing facility just south of Seattle.

The possession of pot became legal in the state Thursday after voters passed a measure decriminalizing it in November. Day two kicked off with more celebrations under the Space Needle tower, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported, but the Pierce County Sheriff's Department investigated an attempted robbery in Puyallup at an alleged growing center foiled by a homeowner who shot two alleged burglars in front of his 9-year-old son.

Officers say they arrived at the home of the man, 35, Thursday to find two masked men dead on the floor and marijuana plants in the attic, ABC affiliate KOMO-TV News reported.

While the law passed in November made it legal to carry and consume marijuana, Sgt. Sean Whitcomb of the Seattle Police Department said cultivating and selling the drug outside of medical dispensaries is still a crime.

"When you're engaged in that type of criminal activity, there is an element of risk," Whitcomb told ABC News Friday.
The legislation leaves Washington in a "murky place," Whitcomb said. Smokers who have purchased marijuana from a street dealer are in the clear.

But the dealer "is still committing a felony," he said.
The U.S. Attorney's office in Seattle sent out a statement Wednesday reminding residents that pot is still illegal under federal law and cannot be brought onto federal property.

"Regardless of any changes in state law, including the change that will go into effect on December 6th in Washington State, growing, selling or possessing any amount of marijuana remains illegal under federal law," the memo from U.S. Attorney Jenny Durkan said.
Federal officials have not said whether they will take action in Colorado and Washington where possession laws now conflict with nationwide drug classifications, but Seattle Police told ABC News Thursday that federal agents were hands-off on pot smokers in the state.
 
Those rippers deserve what they got. The rippers were armed, clearly they knew that day could be their last.

Also, anyone else notice that they are calling the grow house a "grow center" to make it sound like people were killed as a result of legal weed? In fact, there is no proof that those rippers were really rippers, they could of just been there to rob that nice house, where it is clear that they have money.
 

Stoner4Life

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I saw that article on the dead rippers a few hours ago but didn't wanna muck up a nice thread like this (no offense intended megayields) with something that stands alone on it's own & is not tied to the legalization laws.

those rippers got their deserved justice but if this guys grow was in his attic then he surely broke Rule #1 somehow/somewhere/sometime and if he was just trying to hide his plants by tossing them into the attic before police arrived then he STILL must've broken Rule #1 or he was extremely careless in leaving grow rooms open & exposed.

He didn't invite the kind of trouble he was confronted with but unless he was followed home from the hydro-shop or the hydro-shop owner was amongst the dead he must have had loose lips, jmho.......

 
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