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HAARP Engineering 'FRANKENSTORM' Hurricane Sandy - CAUGHT on SATELLITE and RADAR!!! ‏

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
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so an existential manifestation of a vibrational energy created the parallel desire to remain anonymous or an alignment thereof?

i'm struggling to understand some of this. transcendence is a mine.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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Your subjective, prejudice approach with the material is the problem, not the information in it, that informationcould also be objectively viewed. I get the impression your goal is to decide the validity of the evidence before viewing it, and then shouting about it here.

"Governments, and the globalists who back them, have immense assets — an almost endless fiat money printing press — and control over most legal and academic institutions. With these advantages, disinformation can be executed on a massive scale. Here are just a handful of the most prominent tactics used by government agencies and private think tanks to guide public opinion, and establish the appearance of consensus:

1) Control The Experts: Most Americans are taught from kindergarten to ignore their instincts for the truth and defer to the “professional class” for all their answers. The problem is that much of the professional class is indoctrinated throughout their college years, many of them molded to support the status quo. Any experts that go against the grain are ostracized by their peers.

2) Control The Data: By controlling the source data of any investigation, be it legal or scientific, the government has the ability to engineer any truth they wish, that is, as long as the people do not care enough to ask for the source data. Two major examples of controlled and hidden source data include; the NIST investigation of the suspicious 9/11 WTC collapses, in which NIST engineers, hired by the government, have kept all source data from their computer models secret, while claiming that the computer models prove the collapses were “natural”. Also, the recent exposure of the CRU Climate Labs and their manipulation of source data in order to fool the public into believing that Global Warming is real, and accepting a world-wide carbon tax. The CRU has refused to release the source data from its experiments for years, and now we know why."

etc. etc.

See there you go fucking things up with your opinion and impressions. I'm not trying to judge the validity of the evidence before viewing it, I'm asking you to provide the evidence so I can view it and judge whether it's valid or not. The thing is you aren't providing evidence. You're providing what essentially amounts to propaganda that you feel supports your belief there is an evil conspiracy going on. Yet on examination your evidence doesn't hold up but turns out to be talk of what if's and maybe's or could be's or even what the evil forces in your conspiracy might want for the future. Now you're trying to talk about how the government controls all the information and that's why nobody knows what's going on.

Couple of flaws with that though, first off if the government was anywhere near as effective at doing that as you're trying to suggest there wouldn't be so many out there imagining all these conspiracies. The other thing is it just doesn't match up to reality. You're making huge assumptions about billions of people being kept in the dark because the evil empire has huge amounts of money with which to control the media and the so called experts. So they control what the people know and make them do what they want. Yet in the last several years, due largely to the internet being a free way for virtually anyone to dissimenate the truth on a mass worldwide scale we've seen several repressed peoples overthrow their governments (Arab Spring). We've seen people forced large corporations to change their plans (Microsoft forced to continue to support XP when they tried to force Vista down everyone's throat) We've also seen organizations Like Susan G Komen forced to rethink their position on planned parenthood. The people have a mind of their own and are not the mere sheep you seem to think they are.

Thing is though whether any of your view of how the world is for everyone (something you couldn't possibly know with any certainty) is true or not it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. The thread is titled "HAARP Engineering 'FRANKENSTORM' Hurricane Sandy - CAUGHT on SATELLITE and RADAR!!!" Which suggests there is hard evidence that HAARP intentionally created Super Storm Sandy and slamed it into the most heavily populated section of the NE of the US. This is the proof that is relevent, this is the proof that is being asked for and this is the proof that is failing to be provided. You all can go on with all your finger wagging at the Rothschilds and other wealthy elite and make all you illuminati like conspiracy insinuations. As if nobody else knows the wealthy only care about the wealthy and will screw anyone and everyone over in a heartbeat if they thought it would make them more wealthy and they get away with it. I don't really care, whatever floats your boat. If however you are going to make a thread implying you have proof the government is in control of the weather and is using it as a weapon on their own people rather then it's enemies, then I expect you to provide that proof and it be as solid and irrefutable enough to justify a headline like "HAARP Engineering 'FRANKENSTORM' Hurricane Sandy - CAUGHT on SATELLITE and RADAR!!!" not some song and dance about how everyone is brainwashed and we just need to except your opinions as the truth because somehow you managed to evade the brainwashing. :rolleyes:

If you don't want people calling you out for proof of your beliefs, then don't act like you have proof when you really don't. Be consistent in stating that these are only opinions and theories and allow people to decide whether they agree or not without insulting them by saying they're just brainwashed when they don't agree with you. Above all else, stick to the actual topic rather then bouncing all over the place hoping to convince people of one thing so you can say since that one thing is true everything else you believe must therefore be true.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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lynch me then for having a disability. really hemp, your superiority is being tarnished. seems you are the one struggling to comprehend the material.
refusal t accept it is your deficeincy.
don't like the material i post, you're welcome to exit stage left.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/haarp.html

Or I could stay, ask you to stick to the topic rather then hijack the thread to push your own views and opinons by asking for the proof the thread title suggests which is that there is evidence caught on radar that proves HAARP created Super Storm Sandy and deliberately attacked it's own people with it. Which if they did it was a pretty stupid move because Romney might have won had Obama not got the boost he got from his handling of the Federal response. I mean afterall Romney was planning on giving the Military a few billion more then it was asking for. Seems to me if the Military is doing all this top secret stuff to take over the world they'd want a few extra billion rather then a President willing to allow the cuts defined by the fiscal cliff if he doesn't get his way.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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That looks like objectively solid material trichrider.

Also looks like it's totally off the topic since it says there is no evidence HAARP has ever been used as a weapon.

While there is no evidence that this deadly technology has been used, surely the United Nations should be addressing the issue of "environmental warfare" alongside the debate on the climatic impacts of greenhouse gases.
 

Suspect

Active member
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HempKat: I dunno between which lines you read that I believe Frankenstorm was manmade. Or that I'm trying to sell you my beliefs.
The evidence I am referring to in my posts is about the Shadow Govt. that you said I have no hard evidence for.

I was trying to keep the discussion open by pointing out that the debate is halted by your approach to the material people post here.

But apparently I've halted your investigative debate enough already, thanks bye.
 

idiit

Active member
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even though we have disagreement on some specifics i suspect that most here realize that the people of this world are being attacked by a dark shadow global government/corporation.

our awakening to this fact is proving to be beneficial. so, even if we disagree on specifics these threads are of great importance.

here's brezinski explaining how this awakening is fostering positive benefits for us despite our lack on consensus on specifics:

Zbigniew Brzezinski Still Admits The Global Political Awakening Proving Very Difficult For The Elite
start at 50 sec. in if you don't have time for the 6.5 minutes of video.Published on Oct 8, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHknL5z8f6k&feature=player_embedded
 

BudToaster

Well-known member
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The evidence I am referring to in my posts is about the Shadow Govt. that you said I have no hard evidence for.

i think i have stumbled onto yet another shadow group: they have "elders" and meet regularly to plan strategy and train for their (i suppose) mission of control. Shit, we even have cells meeting in my own stinking little town.

Yes, i am referring to the "Pilateans". very insideous group i assure you -- always smiling, training for god knows what ... up to no good, i tell you. hell bend on domination.
 

GrinStick

Active member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=dbh5l0b2-0o&feature=endscreen

We do not need aliens to confuse the issue, it's already confusing enough.

It appears trichrider believes Tesla propounded somewhat of a string theory which he could capture, measure, and manipulate.

Not too far out.

To disregard theory is to stifle advancement imo.

Euclidian geometry was once heretical, as this theory appears in this context.

I thought it rather cute of trichrider to take your hand and walk with him, however vague his discoveries link technology and motive.

I didn't think cute the turbulence in the tokers den.
 

idiit

Active member
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HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ORW_k8fKs&NR=1&feature=fvwp

disruptive to cellular membranes...scaled up and modulated (like HAARP) into directed energy weapons capable of far more than our mere speculations.
science is sometimes awesome isn't it.

What that old thing? Seen that in the main stream news several years ago, oh and the only cells it disrupts is in your ears and only if you are able to and stupid enough to stand in front of it for several minutes. Otherwise it's a non lethal relatively harmless way of breaking up an unrulely mob. You're right though, it was so much better when they just shot protestors with bullets or beat them senseless with billy clubs. :rolleyes:

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/09/25/louder-than-bombs-lrad-sonic-cannon-debuts-in-u-s-at-g20-pro/

"LRAD creates increased stand off and safety zones, supports resolution of uncertain situations, and potentially prevents the use of deadly force," ATC spokesperson Robert Putnam told DailyFinance. "We believe this is highly preferable to the real instances that happen almost every day around the world where officials use guns and other lethal and non-lethal weapons to disperse protesters."

Still, Putnam acknowledged the potential for physical harm. "If you stand right next to it for several minutes, you could have hearing damage," he said. "But it's your choice." He added that heavy-duty ear-phones can render the weapon less effective.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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HempKat: I dunno between which lines you read that I believe Frankenstorm was manmade. Or that I'm trying to sell you my beliefs.
The evidence I am referring to in my posts is about the Shadow Govt. that you said I have no hard evidence for.

I was trying to keep the discussion open by pointing out that the debate is halted by your approach to the material people post here.

But apparently I've halted your investigative debate enough already, thanks bye.

Let me try this again, the topic isn't do shadow goverments exists? Although I've not seen you put up any hard proof of that either. The topic is that HAARP engineered Hurricane Sandy and that what was seen on Satallite and Radar prove this.

So let me get this right, you think debate is halted just because someone asks for solid evidence rather then conjecture or speculation? :rolleyes:

Bye? Are you leaving? No wait, probably not, you threatened to do that before and then didn't.
 

dagnabit

Game Bred
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Otherwise it's a non lethal relatively harmless way of breaking up an unrulely mob. You're right though, it was so much better when they just shot protestors with bullets or beat them senseless with billy clubs. :rolleyes:

yes and free exercise of our right to publicly assemble as a redress for grievance should be met with force.

thank god for this wonderful tech.
it makes the destruction of our republic much more tolerable.
after all history has shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evil is sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they have become accustomed.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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yes and free exercise of our right to publicly assemble as a redress for grievance should be met with force.

thank god for this wonderful tech.
it makes the destruction of our republic much more tolerable.
after all history has shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evil is sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they have become accustomed.

You are leaving out a critical portion of the right in your haste to cite it. The constitution grants this right as "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

When people fail to do that law enforcement is charged with the responsibility to restore peace. Now maybe you and others who have no respect for the true intention of the right would rather they not have such tech because it's alot more difficult to evade but frankly as someone who has exercised the right the way we are supposed to only to see asshats turn it into an excuse for violence, I'd much rather have such tech being used then to end up shot and killed like we saw happen at Kent State.
 

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