Don't know what I got......looks like fungus gnat larvae on leaves that can move rather efficiently.....I can see some of the damage in garden straight line scratches and some holes....but have only spotted 3 larvae on top of one leaf and one on the underside...i do have a few fungus gnats pop up here and there which I kill manually.....these are very tiny larvae that can move...please help.
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HELP PLEASE.....Larvae looking bugs.......
- Thread starter Mr. Smith
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sounds like thrips to me. I think spinosad is the trick for those bastards.
Larvae on the leaves? Thrips can hide very efficiently between veins and can move quick. Spinosad is very effective for a an OMRI.
Be wary of the FGs, they could become a serious problem as they eat your roots they spread disease. Just one FG in the garden is too many. Each can lay over 200 eggs! Predatory nematodes are good for OMRI along with Azamax drench. Otherwise you can use drench w Imid and kill both, just be careful about giving enough time before harvest.
The damage pattern you describe sounds spot on for thrips...I'd have to agree with Jimmy on this one...
dank.Frank
dank.Frank
Are Thrips nearly impossible to see?
Are Thrips nearly impossible to see?
So I went back in there to see if I could find more as these are nearly impossible to see. I trapped one on a leaf and put in a ziplock....they are so small ....even though I know what I'm looking at its still almost impossible to see them....does that sound like thrips?
Are Thrips nearly impossible to see?
So I went back in there to see if I could find more as these are nearly impossible to see. I trapped one on a leaf and put in a ziplock....they are so small ....even though I know what I'm looking at its still almost impossible to see them....does that sound like thrips?
use google images and compare...
dank.Frank
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yeah used google images and books to compare .....have to say the bugs I have are so small its hard to compare....like I said if these things were any smaller they would be invisible....are thrips generally this small?.....just to add there are no adult flying thrips to be seen just fungus gnats......
The thrips I had were nearly microscopic. To tell between thrips and mites count legs. 6 and it's probably not a mite. 8 and it 100% is a mites. Early instar of some mites may only have 6 visible legs. But no insects have 8. Also, mites are usually more round than a thrip. That is, thrips are a little more elongated than mites, in general. Adult thrips have a body shape like a wasp.
Also, the thrips I found were about as light green as the veins, making em hard to spot. And the pics of the Western Flower Thrip, Frankliniella occidentalis, are often shown in their adult stage with wings. You may only see the 1 or 2 instar, which will be lighter in color and almost a translucent green.
I stayed up all night studying bugs........so many have the same characteristics and symptoms and they're all nearly microscopic...its almost impossible to identify them without a microscope or something.....have to say that the damage they're causing isn't new to the garden ....I kinda always kept my eye out for bugs but I guess these ones were really hard to spot.....I saw a lil sticky residue that drew my attention to a worm-translucent-larvae- like critter that could move...but theres not sticky residue everywhere only a few spots.....I have to look a lil harder now and determine if some of the things I'm looking at that look like dust might actually be a bug......whatever they are they "seem" to be stragglers....if they have a colony it doesn't seem obvious.
I read up alot on russel mites and those fuckers freak me out....I hope its thrips....In reading though I read about white flies and it could also be the larvae from that....only I don't see any adults flying around......
these things definitely seem like munchers......they eat straight lines through the leaf and then the leaf seems to break apart....they munch holes too and the same thing happens....then theres the lil speckled "spots" I see also....I'm hoping its not a few things....again the plants still appear strong and not that affected...but now I'm noticing the symptoms are more prevalent..... whatever it is has been in there a lil while and spreads rather slowly...this is in my clone mother room by the way....thx in advance.
I read up alot on russel mites and those fuckers freak me out....I hope its thrips....In reading though I read about white flies and it could also be the larvae from that....only I don't see any adults flying around......
these things definitely seem like munchers......they eat straight lines through the leaf and then the leaf seems to break apart....they munch holes too and the same thing happens....then theres the lil speckled "spots" I see also....I'm hoping its not a few things....again the plants still appear strong and not that affected...but now I'm noticing the symptoms are more prevalent..... whatever it is has been in there a lil while and spreads rather slowly...this is in my clone mother room by the way....thx in advance.
Also...I think russet mites only have four legs in the front.........spider mites have 8....these are not spider mites as I know how to identify them easilly........ I would think with thrips I would notice adults...unless adults are also almost microscopic....the only thing winged I've noticed appear to be fungus knats....but for all I now these could be leaf miner flies....very tedious business.....
Silvery trails, chewing paths, black fecal speckles... All go back to thrips.
When I think microscopic it definitely requires magnification to make em out... Thrip larvae are small, but visible with the naked eye. Russet mites will look like a dust en mass... Can't really see em individually wo mag.
what are the symptoms of russet mites.......these things are extremely hard to see hard to see but I can make out there larvae like shaped they blend in very well with the leaf veins...they even wiggle to move......I must also add that I have 15/15 vision which is better than 20/20....so I don't know if I could see a russet mite larvae or not..I appreciate everyones help very much....whatever this is I'm gonna fight it to the death....no starting over...I just did that when I got tired of battling PM and didn't want to use eagle 20.
I'd put my money on thrips. Thrips are good at hiding blending in between the veins when you spray with essential oils or neem, that's why I like spinosad. They come back out eat some lunch and the by product of a special bacteria, which is Spinosad, is ingested. And it kills em.
Also, I never had a single flyer or final instar when I got em.
