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Yayyy! My first colloidal silver generator (photo)

Bueno Time

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You can get silver wire which works fine from Amazon. Or maybe a jeweler near you can sell you a couple inches of .999 jewelry wire.
Good luck.

I went to the local shop here and smallest they had in .999 was 1oz coins @ $35 each plus tax I passed and went home ordered 2 5gram .999 bars from Monarch Precious Metals.

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For $7.60 each plus shipping. Total shipped was $21.60 for the 2 5gram .999 silver bars and they are approx 1 1/4" tall x 3/4" wide about perfect size for what I need. And about half the cost of 1 1oz .999 coin.

Also found a little video on Youtube to show the size a little better for anyone possibly interested in them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrRUvNYnxns
 

Bueno Time

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you paid the equivilent of $120.96 an ounce then...

jus sayin

I got 2 5 gram bars for $21.60shipped. I paid $10.80 shipped for each 5 gram bar ($7.60 plus shipping per bar).

A troy ounce is 31.1 oz so just make it easy n say 30 grams so 6x5grams=30 grams 6x$10.80=$64.80 an oz which is very high yes I agree.

I could have got 1oz coins of .999 for $35 each but it would cost me $70 to get the two little pieces of .999 silver I need for the generator, so I got 2 5 gram plates that will work fine for me for about 1/4 the price I would have had to pay for 2 1oz coins that are really bigger than what I need.

So it was cheaper for me not dollars per ounce but in cost of the 2 needed pieces of quality silver.

I can hear where you are coming from though price per ounce.
 

GrowersUnite

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http://www.artbeads.com/sswr16hhf.html
I got the 16g at a foot, and I made two 2 long piece, and curved the end a half inch or so. It holds on to my cups better. I lost the other 8 inches. But I didn't pay that much for it at all. Maybe 10 total. Silver was cheaper then. .9999 btw

I've made maybe 10 batches and the wire has only discolored really. I just wire brush it a bit before each use.


If you want different sizes/shapes, here you go.
http://www.artbeads.com/wire-and-chain-sterling-wire.html
 

High Country

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I'm fine with that opinion, but I'd like to see some science behind it. I don't have any studies to show it is dangerous, but erring on the side of caution can only lead me to assume so. It's silver being sprayed onto something which is then combusted and inhaled. I'm open to being proven wrong; it would be nice to know that CS is that safe.

Your not going to smoke or inhale the plant that is being sprayed. These ones will reverse, produce pollen and die and shag a clone of itself to produce the seed. No problems.
 
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MrSterling

HC; I'm aware, just responding to the post above saying CS isn't toxic to smoke. My question was whether pollen produced by a reversed plant contains enough silver from spraying to worry about smoking the female you're pollinating. The answer is probably "No, stop worrying so god damn much".
 

jump117

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I'm fine with that opinion, but I'd like to see some science behind it. I don't have any studies to show it is dangerous, but erring on the side of caution can only lead me to assume so. It's silver being sprayed onto something which is then combusted and inhaled. I'm open to being proven wrong; it would be nice to know that CS is that safe.

Intense puff develops a temperature close to the melting point, but silver does not melt, and certainly not evaporated.
All that happens is only the restoration of the oxide to metallic silver.
For the evaporation of silver needed a much higher temperature.

If this does not sound convincing, do not smoke, it's not the only way to use.
You may vaporize or extract concentrate for dabbing.
Vaporization temperature is not sufficient even for the ignition of fiber, not to mention the evaporation of silver.
Dabbing temp is hotter than vaporization, but with proper temperature settings even high-boiling components of resin do not evaporate, not that silver.

However, if you want to throw it away, throw it, if not sorry.
 

habeeb

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I found some links on color in CS, that some people might be interested in..


what is very weird for me, not sure if it's completly normal, is i had a grey color mixture, then strained it, came back and it was very yellow??? kinda odd and makes me think there is a process to make 'better' or 'worse' soutions depending on :

-time
-cleaning silver
-volts
-milla-amps
-space between silver
-volume of water
-water temp
-'electrode' / silver surface size
...



link 1
link 2
looks like an interesting article

"What is the correct color of colloidal silver?

To make sense of the colloidal silver color issue I will quote from a paper by "Paul Mulvaney - Berich Strahlenchemie, Hahn-Meiter institut, D - 1000, berlin, 39, Germany" Titled " Colloidal Silver: Charge-Transfer Process and Photochemistry"

"In this report we present some recent results on charge-transfer and chemisorbtion process on colloidal silver. It has been found that the surface plasmon absorption band of colloidal silver, which is responsible for the yellow color of silver sols, is very sensitive to changes in the state of the colloid surface."

"The positively charged sols have a yellow-brown color, while negatively charged sol particles are a pale yellow.)"

" The absorption band maxima is shifted to shorter wavelengths when the particle becomes negatively polarized. Thus, the optical spectrum can, in principle, be used to determine whether a silver sol is negatively or positively polarized." "One difficulty is to determine the wavelength of the absorption maximum when silver is uncharged (i.e., at the so-called plasma null point or PNP.)" [End quote]

Colloidal silver can appear to be light yellow to yellow-brown like tea, not because of excessive oxidation as is sometimes reported, the main consideration is the surface plasmon absorption band polarization. The color is due to the light refraction of the yellow to yellow red/brown part of the light spectrum.

It is possible for contaminants or oxidation to be a factor regarding the color of colloidal material generally speaking.... "
 
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Bueno Time

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So my silver plates finally showed up and I ran the CS gen last night. I am using a 12v 500mA ac-dc adapter for my power supply. I actually tested the DC voltage at 16.3v with my digital multimeter I have, so for some reason it was running higher than 12v.

Starting PPM of the distilled water was 000 PPM measured with my HM Digital TDS meter.

After 3 hours was at 009 PPM. Cleaned and swapped the plates.

After 6 more hours it was at 019 PPM. Lots of buildup on the plates and floating stuff in the glass so I filtered the CS, cleaned and swapped the plates.

Ran another 2-3 hours it was at 031 PPM so I filtered the CS again and cleaned the plates. Put everything away.

After 12 hours of CS generator running and a couple filterings, I was left with 028 PPM light silvery gray solution.

Going to spray one of my Purple Kush cuts with it today and daily for the next two weeks or so. The PK is going to be my first attempt at using CS to generate feminized pollen.

I didnt use sand paper or metal brush on the plates to clean them.

I found using a pea size amount of white toothpaste (not gel!). Has micro abrasives/polish in it and worked well to clean the tarnish and buildup off the plates.

If you choose to use white toothpaste to clean your plates make sure to wash them off well and rinse them well before using again. I dont know that it would cause any problems but still clean them off well in an attempt to try to keep the CS as pure as possible.

Will post back with results in a couple weeks.
 

PhenoMenal

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That's one thing that hasn't really been been discussed much in this thread, as Bueno just mentioned -- the cleaning of the tailings that constantly build up during electrolysis. "Cleaning" the silver compounds to remove tailings will help maintain the efficiency of your CS generator and give you better results a little bit sooner, though it isn't necessary.
 

drum_halfzware

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RE: neurotoxicity of silver and metals in general

Not only is silver neurotoxic, other metals are as well. This is reason to not only avoid smoking the CS treated plants but stop smoking from metal pipes too.

Toxicol Sci. 2010 Nov;118(1):160-70 PMID: 20713472

160.long


Int J Mol Sci. 2011;12(9):6267-80 PMID:22016657

PMC3189781
 

Bueno Time

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So I sprayed one of my Purple Kush cuts with CS 17x in the last 20ish days and she is producing balls now at day 17 of flower. Hoping for some viable feminised pollen from her.

It really is simple.
 
hello all,thanks for all the info. read some of the tread but i still need to know if you can smoke the female plant that you sprayed with the silver??? thanks for your help and have a buzzed day, peace and God bless
 

High Country

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hello all,thanks for all the info. read some of the tread but i still need to know if you can smoke the female plant that you sprayed with the silver??? thanks for your help and have a buzzed day, peace and God bless

Just throw it out mate....it's stuffed at the end of the process.
 
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