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Hey Coba, C-Ray - The beauty of Scientific Method is that we can test whatever the hell we want without the risk of losing an entire crop.

I forget which of you mentioned that I should try Gascanastan's mix. But his mix and CC's will be run through in the "unknowns" on a couple of plants. If all goes well it may turn into the "control" group that anything else will have to outperform.

My soil mix is lame...but it works.

50% Roots Organic Potting soil
25% Teufel's compost - CC and Gas both say this compost sucks...they are right...woody and full of fungus gnats.
25% Perlite.
I run it w/o additives for veg. For flower I add 1tbs per gal of Kelp meal, HF 5-5-5, Greensand, SRP, and 11/2 tbs of dolomite lime. I used to add 1tbs of alfalfa but the assclowns that make Roots will sometimes put some pretty hot soil in that bag. So I'd rather just hit them with some teas than watch em burn.

I grabbed this because I didn't have time to let shit cook for some veg plants that needed to get out of the soil they were in ASAP. My dumbass didn't use scientific method when incorporating backyard compost into my mix and my plants just aren't digging it like they should be. I could mix up something very similar to CC's mix that I have used before and that works well for me. I decided to just kick it old school SM style. When I started growing to pay the bills a few years ago the above mix outperformed LC's mix and plain Root Soils with nothing added. I'm not saying my mix is better, just that it worked better in my situation.

Really though SM can be applied in many other ways. An example would be a few years ago when JayKush mentioned that lavender can be made into a foliar to kill spider mites. Instead of just following what he (or anyone else) suggested and blindly spraying all my plants without knowing how the would react...I sprayed a plant or two and waited a couple days to make sure everything was OK.

Two reasons why I started this thread. First I wanted to see what my soil testing plan would be written down. Second, I realized that by following SM, the possibility of failure is drastically reduced.

Ramble.
RD
 
Stopped by an old patients' house the other day and was pleasantly surprised by what I saw. I should have listened to my own advice. His plants looked amazing...this is probably his fourth of fifth run. He stopped drinking for over a month now and it looks like he transplanted and watered properly. This guy has some brain damage from an accident he was in, he can hold a job, and is smarter than most people I know. He has serious headaches and is unable to sleep because of the steel in his head.

Found the piece of paper of the mix I wrote down for him.

40% Roots soil
10% coco chunk
10% coco fiber
20% Teufel's compost
20% Perlite
3/4 Tbs. per gal. Of each of the following: greensand,kelp meal,SRP, HF 5-5-5
11/2 Tbs.per gal of dolomite lime.

Funny how shit works. He had too many plants because he said he got bored since he stopped drinking.
So I ended up with a bunch of veg plants....right on time. He has done nothing but give them plain water.
Unlike me, I think he's okay with posting up pics and I've got a 10 year old camera...so maybe I can liven things up here.

I'll be mixing up some different soil mixes and start comparing them soon...hopefully with some pics of the action.

Peace
RD
 

h.h.

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SM could also stand for "stoner method". Damn stoners, not sure why we put up with ourselves.
A bit of a shortcut on the science there. Literally jumping to a conclusion and repeating what appears to work.Pretty much what I do. A little science and a lot of luck. Theories are good to work with, but mistaking them for conclusions sometimes leaves us just short of an answer. :tumbleweed:Good thread my friend.
 

al-k-mist

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Cool another trashed thread,I love these things .....happens all the time Rancho. Just so you don't feel left out...it happens to all of us now and again.

Just send the kids to bed man..they've had too much sugar....

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Lets change the topic.....

Anyone wonder why those little soils tests you can buy at the hydro-store aren't at all accurate in organic soil?
That might be of concern for a gardener who might consider doing a test with one.

No, I honestly dont, but I doubt a simple kit could do what the people at the ag dept could do
I honestly know nothing of soil testing and almost nothing about chemistry, but NORMALLY-I guess- it takes several reagents to identify everything. Ive never got one, because when we moved here, we found so much clay we had to buy ALL soil, even for the gardens.

This is an amazing thread. And I plan on doing just this in the spring. We may run a few strains, but , for sure, There will be several experiments, all will be here on ic mag, the shit.
Plans are to POSSIBLY do one or two plants of each strain with chem ferts, one or two with "organic'(in quotes) like fuck farm norganix, and these will be the experiments. These will be labeled. I have no doubt that living organics will win, but . see there, im biased already.
Sorry, I have a tendency to ramble.
Grate thread, like I said
(~);}
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h.h.

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Soil tests are for chemicals. An example of why the SM needs to be taken a few steps further past the anecdotal stage.
I test my soil and from the test I assume it needs chemicals. Let's say, more nitrogen.
I keep a control group adding N to a variable group.
The variable group explodes leading me to conclude chemicals work better.
I even go as far as repeat the experiment and sure enough, it's repeatable.
Then I put it up for peer review...LOL
:smoke out::dunno::dueling::bashhead::snap out of it:
 

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