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DaveTheNewbie
yup had a closer look and i had about a week before whole plants fell over or just burnt to a crisp.
tying each one to a bamboo pole and pulling it back seems a real winner, as i did it the first round.
photos tomorrow
tying each one to a bamboo pole and pulling it back seems a real winner, as i did it the first round.
photos tomorrow
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DaveTheNewbie
Querkle clones getting way too big. Ive topped them hard to stop them burning on the 100w CFL.
Agent Orange veg plant 2 weeks in. This thing grows in a way that leaves Querkle for dead. Compare a 2 week Querkle to a 2 wekk Agent Orange and its twice as big. I doubt this will last 4 weeks in the veg cab.
2 weeks flowering Querkle
6 weeks flowering Querkle
and alls well.
Agent Orange veg plant 2 weeks in. This thing grows in a way that leaves Querkle for dead. Compare a 2 week Querkle to a 2 wekk Agent Orange and its twice as big. I doubt this will last 4 weeks in the veg cab.
2 weeks flowering Querkle
6 weeks flowering Querkle
and alls well.
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DaveTheNewbie
ive been posting every week, and not much is changing any more.
ill post every now and then, maybe if something changes.
right now im pretty happy with how progress is going.
next harvest will really tell me how well im doing.
the threads not abandoned, but it will slow down a bit now.
ill post every now and then, maybe if something changes.
right now im pretty happy with how progress is going.
next harvest will really tell me how well im doing.
the threads not abandoned, but it will slow down a bit now.
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DaveTheNewbie
did my week 3 prune of the veg plants and the agent orange is like a vine or creeper rather than a tree or plant.
im not sure i like it at all ...
im not sure i like it at all ...
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DaveTheNewbie
yeah it reminds me of what i would imagine Mr Nice Mango Haze is supposed to be like
long and thin and unable to hold its own weight in veg. I have to tie it up to keep it off the ground and its still got another veg week to go.
long and thin and unable to hold its own weight in veg. I have to tie it up to keep it off the ground and its still got another veg week to go.
Silica will help beef up the stems and help with that flop.
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DaveTheNewbie
already using silica (budlink)
when i grow the querkle or pandoras box i never tie up at all. even at harvest it stands under its own weight.
not this new strain tho.
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DaveTheNewbie
this have given me hope regarding blumats. It explains why some people have so much success with them and some (me) really dont.
next run will be pure coco, not 50% perlite.
the other problem i have discovered is that i PH my nutes to 5.9 when i mix them up (well they PH themselves but its 5.9) When i tested my ressies they were sitting at 7.5. Something has been lifing the PH 1.5 points over time as it sits, and thats what i am feeding the plants.
i thought about this some, and realised im adding a product thats amino acid, humic acid and fulvic acid. thats alot of acids. Maybe thats what is pushing the PH around over time? The second option is the budlink silica, but thats a proven hydroponic additive. Anyway im going to empty the ressies and start again without the organic acids.
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DaveTheNewbie
turns out it wasnt the additive but the PH pen was out of synch.
recalibrated it and alls better
recalibrated it and alls better
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DaveTheNewbie
Start Choppin
Start Choppin
ok so i cut down today.
Last harvest with 2 plants i got a wet weight of 1511g
This time with 4 plants i got 2478g
Thats a 64% improvement.
Really not enough.
When i looked at the pots / rootzone 3 of the 4 plants coco was dry as the desert. The one wet plant had a yield that would double any other 2 plants. The wet plant also had way better quality as well as quantity.
The blumats are fucking me over badly.
My current theory is that they will work with 100% pure coco instead of 50% perlite. But im really thinking of going to PPKs or even Hempies to get a watering system that works.
Fuck Blumats.
Start Choppin
ok so i cut down today.
Last harvest with 2 plants i got a wet weight of 1511g
This time with 4 plants i got 2478g
Thats a 64% improvement.
Really not enough.
When i looked at the pots / rootzone 3 of the 4 plants coco was dry as the desert. The one wet plant had a yield that would double any other 2 plants. The wet plant also had way better quality as well as quantity.
The blumats are fucking me over badly.
My current theory is that they will work with 100% pure coco instead of 50% perlite. But im really thinking of going to PPKs or even Hempies to get a watering system that works.
Fuck Blumats.
This is in the 5g pots right? Before giving up on them, I would try growing the same size plants with those blumats, but try two plants in 2g, and 2 plants in 3g.
I have found that the smart pots with coco work better in much smaller size pots than you'd think. It has been said that the max pot size is 5g with the reg blumats.. but maybe that doesn't apply to smart pots, or highly aerated substrates. I don't know for sure, but what I do know is I moved from 5 to 3 to 2 and now prefer growing in 1g's with coco. I don't know which would work best for you with the blumats but I'd say its worth experimenting.
I have found that the smart pots with coco work better in much smaller size pots than you'd think. It has been said that the max pot size is 5g with the reg blumats.. but maybe that doesn't apply to smart pots, or highly aerated substrates. I don't know for sure, but what I do know is I moved from 5 to 3 to 2 and now prefer growing in 1g's with coco. I don't know which would work best for you with the blumats but I'd say its worth experimenting.
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DaveTheNewbie
3g smartpots. I went straight from 7g to 3g. If i was confident getting a 2g would work i would do it, but im not sure thats going to fix anything.
i would try 1 more time.i only used them in soil but kept getting better results every time.if you get 20% of the wet weight,that is almost 500 grams.i used a version of the ppk and liked the blumats better.i also would hand water 1 or 2 times a week since i thought the blumats were barely keeping up with the three gallon pots.either way best of luck!
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DaveTheNewbie
It seems like i may have "fixed" blumats ... the plants in pure coco instead of a coco/perlite mix SEEM to be behaving themselves so far ... early days but looking good.
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DaveTheNewbie
ok i am of the belief that what makes blumats work or not work is the medium they are placed in. Running them in 50% perlite didnt work.
The most recent batch is in 100% coco and so far (4 days only) they are running at 100% of expectations. Sure its early days but each of the 4 pots is working how i would ask them to work. Full saturation and zero runoff.
I have also worked out PPKs in my mind but i think im letting that wait for plan B and see if i cant get a win out of the blumats now that i have them all set up.
What i am also considering is halving the number of plants veg and flower and running the 2 600w lights in flower in a column above each other. around a total of 4 plants with a screen and lots of tying down. Not doing anything about this yet but im hoping the agent orange would work for this.
The most recent batch is in 100% coco and so far (4 days only) they are running at 100% of expectations. Sure its early days but each of the 4 pots is working how i would ask them to work. Full saturation and zero runoff.
I have also worked out PPKs in my mind but i think im letting that wait for plan B and see if i cant get a win out of the blumats now that i have them all set up.
What i am also considering is halving the number of plants veg and flower and running the 2 600w lights in flower in a column above each other. around a total of 4 plants with a screen and lots of tying down. Not doing anything about this yet but im hoping the agent orange would work for this.
i ran 2 600's stacked.the quality was better overall but you would probably get better yields running 2 donuts with 1 a piece.you need to nail the trimming of sucker branches to prevent larf with a single 600,not as critical with 2 600's stacked since alot more light but then losing some efficiency.
