nukklehead
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I "RECKIN SO" JOse....splatt!!!! 
Re-Use FFOF soil?
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what a bunch of posers. dont ever throw out your soil. well maybe if its loaded with chems . i havent thrown out any soil in like 10 years lol. a good quality organic soil dont even get good till the second year lol
nothing wrong with reusing FF OF,
i have piles of it and use it in the garden.
btw when working with soil either amending or just thinning out a bag of FF OF w/perlite a cement mixer goes a looooooog way!
makes it so easy on you and gets it done much quicker when working with soils.
i have piles of it and use it in the garden.
btw when working with soil either amending or just thinning out a bag of FF OF w/perlite a cement mixer goes a looooooog way!
makes it so easy on you and gets it done much quicker when working with soils.
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hiya,,,bloom as above post,i never re-use soil,new dirt every new grow,could open up all sorts of problems re-using soil imo..cheers peace and safe growing s2
nukklehead
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Now like I said .. I am still learning.. but look at the post count and reps of the peeps who say you can re-use/re amend
and the ones that say you cant.. I will now diverse and go away
and the ones that say you cant.. I will now diverse and go away
i prefer my soil recycled...i use happy frog and i guess i prefer it after the first crop, because at that point it's basically a soilless medium, and you have more control when using liquid hydroponic fertilizer like flora bloom and micro...basically whatever you add is exactly what the plants get, with fresh soil, i end up with too much nitrogen trying to follow the lucas schedule, cause the soils nutes throw my lucas style nutrient profile out of wack...
honestly i dont' see why anybody wouldn't recycle soil, i mean, aren't the organic guys all just adding more amendments after each run to keep the herd alive? ive even heard no-till beds are getting popular over there, they pull the old plants, and plant new ones without so much as stirring the soil and get great results...i think especially since ocean forest and happy frog are like 90% soiless to begin with there is really no point throwing it away...just add new amendments if you are organic and if you are a chemical guy like me, make sure you leave enough time for the plants to drain all the nutes out of your soil before harvest...that or flush your soil well before the next round, so you know you are starting with a soil npk of 0-0-0...
it's also a good thing for security, why haul huge ass bags of fox farm in and out of your home every couple months when you can just keep using it and keep getting the same results?? it just seems incredibly pointless and wasteful to throw away soilless medium to buy fresh medium that will become soiless in just a few weeks once the plants eat up the worm poop...
honestly i dont' see why anybody wouldn't recycle soil, i mean, aren't the organic guys all just adding more amendments after each run to keep the herd alive? ive even heard no-till beds are getting popular over there, they pull the old plants, and plant new ones without so much as stirring the soil and get great results...i think especially since ocean forest and happy frog are like 90% soiless to begin with there is really no point throwing it away...just add new amendments if you are organic and if you are a chemical guy like me, make sure you leave enough time for the plants to drain all the nutes out of your soil before harvest...that or flush your soil well before the next round, so you know you are starting with a soil npk of 0-0-0...
it's also a good thing for security, why haul huge ass bags of fox farm in and out of your home every couple months when you can just keep using it and keep getting the same results?? it just seems incredibly pointless and wasteful to throw away soilless medium to buy fresh medium that will become soiless in just a few weeks once the plants eat up the worm poop...
I can tell you never recycled your soil....Looks like you have been receiving wrong information,
Ignorance... Must be fun....
Recycled soil that is mineralized and properly amended will out perform any thing you buy in the store. It will have good structure, aeration, CEC, microbes etc... Its get so good for us soil recyclers we can literally only add water during the whole grow..... Can you do that?
plants love it and so dont the worms apparently. to each their own . i dont really care how one grows their weed. i smoke my own. throwing away soil ? hell might as well switch back to hydro and rockwool lol. not me hell i dont throw away almost anything from a grow. but a few ej bottles and plastic from the bales.even the paper bags and boxes the organic dry ferts come in gets composted.
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SeaMaiden
I just do it because I'm cheap and there it is. Why wouldn't you use it? But then again, I'll reuse aluminum foil and plastic bags.
the old lady does that too. i throw them away when she aint looking . caught her washing out drinking straws the other day. lol i used to throw away soil way back . then i started buying palletts of soil. i soon realised recycling was the way to go when my used soil pile was big enough to ski down LOL. on the farm i had a cement mixer and bobcat to make it easyier.my experience mixing soil started in school as we had an aggie program and greenhouses and sold soil and plants ect.
superman your telling me after you finish flowering and possibly running 1150 ppm last couple of weeks even toning it down to possibly 650 on chop day you going to re use it on a clone lol ya Right you are you would fry it, not to mention possible salt build up, and wrong nutrients for veg as you were using flowering nutes for the last 7 - 20 weeks lol as well as vegging for hell who knows how long ????
with re using soil you can get possible contamination, Disease even growing organic you would set it aside and amend it and i agree re use it 3rd time around not second time then again sterilizeing soil , that is or should be recomended
yea some will say i will flush the soil to rid it of all its nutrients again you ever soak soil
Yea just go fill up a 5 gallon pail of soil soak it see how long it takes hahaha before you can re use it ????? what a month
how long you think it would actually dry up what yea going to do place it on a room with tons of heat and a dehumidifier it would take for ever for that soil to dry out unless it was suspended and dripping away screened etc but not in a pile in a corner of your house
And also if a grower has a very good root system and depending on amount of veg and flowering times ??? how much soil is there anyways???? at the end 99 percent of my grows there is hardly any soil left but rather massive root system
PS: in my garden center all plants that don't sell soil gets re used but gets sterilized first @ 170 degrees then mixed into new soil for next years products
with re using soil you can get possible contamination, Disease even growing organic you would set it aside and amend it and i agree re use it 3rd time around not second time then again sterilizeing soil , that is or should be recomended
yea some will say i will flush the soil to rid it of all its nutrients again you ever soak soil
Yea just go fill up a 5 gallon pail of soil soak it see how long it takes hahaha before you can re use it ????? what a month
how long you think it would actually dry up what yea going to do place it on a room with tons of heat and a dehumidifier it would take for ever for that soil to dry out unless it was suspended and dripping away screened etc but not in a pile in a corner of your house
And also if a grower has a very good root system and depending on amount of veg and flowering times ??? how much soil is there anyways???? at the end 99 percent of my grows there is hardly any soil left but rather massive root system
PS: in my garden center all plants that don't sell soil gets re used but gets sterilized first @ 170 degrees then mixed into new soil for next years products
lol when i give larger amounts of pot to my buddy, i usually put it in old rapid rooter bags that i save, foil is a bit rich for my blood though, i save white castle bags, put my small amount of grow garbage in them, and drop them off in random garbage cans at parks and bike paths...i also save all my target bags and use them as my kitchen garbage bags...i live alone, so a normal sized garbage bag takes me a month to fill, and starts to smell by the end, target bags only take a week
for a while i was reusing my rapid rooters, id clone more than i need, then rip the extra clones from the plugs and put back in the fridge...but nowadays a bag only lasts a month so i don't bother saving the two or three extra i end up with each month...
nukklehead
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man senor you are a cheap arse arent you.. now Im cheap.. but it comes from my family.. get this.. my mom will actually clean her paper plates if they arent that bad and re use them... along with plastic silver ware.... once my grandparents die.. ( one still alive on each side) My mother and father will be close to a mill. in net worth.
Not bitching or bragging... I count on the fact with this govt. I wont see a thing.. if I do its gravy.. everyone for themselves. BUT...Just shows you what the theory of recycling can do.
just like i said, rebuild it and it will be better than it was new, i think all you guys that say not to reuse soil are scared or dont know shit about soil. i guess all the farms across the world only grow one crop and then ask god or whoever for new soil, hell no, they rebuild it,
If the dirt is not "mature", then you mix with reg potting soil. Amending with bones meal and other types of nutes will have to "compost" (this can be having your soil sit in your room for 3 to 8 weeks) but not all amendments have to be "composted. But there are different approaches available.
(No till method) There are some folks that will cut the base stem of the flowered plant and directly afterword place in a clone near the cut base stem. This in effects leaves a large fungi population intact and ready for the clone. They also use FPE' and other top dress methods to feed the soil. (Better believe those soils are mineralized)
No salts in my mix.... And as for veg/flower nutes, in the organic culture the plant will take up what it wants versus what you force feed down its throat with soluble nutes. (Not a knock but a distinction you should know about). Same with PH. The plant will exude a substances that will alter the PH to plants desire for nutrition uptake (humus)
Are you serious? Sterilize? LOL .. .. In the recycle soil world we do not sterilize. We foster environments where we have a wide range of bacteria and fungi that does a majority of the work (I must include actinomycetes, nematodes, protozoa and algea).. To sterilize would be taboo.. We want diverse healthy populations that will take-down predators (viruses, molds. pathogens, etc) and keep the soil clean so no sterilization will be needed. Thee population remain intact and further propagate with the correct environment.
You lost me on this one. I never flush my soil, PH or heat it. (Funny thing though.. When I compost my mix you can put your hand in the mix and feel the heat it generates. Microbes at its best!!)yea some will say i will flush the soil to rid it of all its nutrients again you ever soak soil
Yea just go fill up a 5 gallon pail of soil soak it see how long it takes hahaha before you can re use it ????? what a month
how long you think it would actually dry up what yea going to do place it on a room with tons of heat and a dehumidifier it would take for ever for that soil to dry out unless it was suspended and dripping away screened etc but not in a pile in a corner of your house
I leave the roots in the soil. The bacteria will breakdown the roots in 1 to 4 weeks. Plus its nutrients for the next run. A non issue that take scare of itself (thank you EWC)
Ask farmer Ted if does that?
Dr Fever no disrespect but it seems like you have been misled on recycling soil in a organic situation. In the chem world, you are correct. But in the organic paradigm the game changes.
The more you recycle the soil, the better it becomes. I can tell you the soil I have in my barrels right now are higher in CEC , bacteria, fungi and structure than 99% of the soils you buy on the market. And its not because I'm Mr brainiac. If the hydro store sells you a bag of a well rounded, composted completed soil and you had the knowledge on mineralization and amendments/FPE's you would not be spending a lot of money at the hydro store. Real talk...
I was that guy spending major mullah at the hydro stores.. That shit stopped and my plants have never been better or healthier..
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