The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[Another_Species]

Damn those are some monster ladys...beauts gents!!

 

[TheSilverMullet]

Great pics everyone.

Jeez Fil, no mystery as to why it's called "the big garden".

Not quite up there with you big boys but I learn a few things every year so maybe some day.

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

Damn......beautiful job!

 

[Sierra Organics]

Thanks to whoever fixed whatever was wrong with Sierra Organics' pictures!

How are those 2-bys staying up? Are they planted in the ground?

yeah the 2x4s r planted in the ground. theyre 12 footers. I simply drill a hole in the ground with a gas powered auger and they go in about 18-20". the netting saves so much trouble compared to staking every branch with bamboo, which was a real PITA last year. The netting is worth its weight in gold

 

[Veg N Out]

Keeping it going

 

[Yes4Prop215]

GhostTrain clone

Cherry Pie clone

Blue dream clone, planted late

Sour Bubble from seed

9/20

 

[Aeroguerilla]

nice pics prop heres a few of mine from yesterday.

 

[420247]

My plants are to small to post here...

My plants are to small to post here...

Hello everybody

Is there some reason you guys dont use planter beds?

Or any reason you guys dont use chicken wire to keep rodents out?

I use planter beds with chicken wire, and was wondering why you guys dont? Or never see it anyway...

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A little update

10' X 20' 9' tall greenhouse with four 3' X 8' planter beds...

I have some Leda Uno, Sam Skunkman mix, (Highland Mex X BB) X Sour Amnesia, Trip X BB, Kali Mist, and a few others in there all from seed...

 

[FillthePotmore]

The Ladies are putting on some WEIGHT!

The Ladies are putting on some WEIGHT!

Happy Harvest ICMAG Tribe!

 

[theJointedOne]

Thanks fill, you as well!

 

[Madjag]

In The Ground

In The Ground

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Happy Harvest ICMAG Tribe!

Hi Fill,

So here's my $100 question: you, Cannido Cowboy, Mannitoid, and a scarce few others plant directly into the ground while the other epic growers use above ground planters, be they air-pruners or not.

Much has been threaded that the above ground method allows more oxygen to reach the roots with above gorund containers versus only on top of the soil surface with in-the-ground plantings. That school of thought credits their success largely to that aspect.

I believe it is more a question of "the bigger the battery makes for bigger plants" as Tom Hill suggests. That being said, do you have any special soil prep that you'd share, such as Mannitoid's "Soil Lasagna" method of layering various natural amendments in his holes by alternating hay with humus with hay with chicken shit ad infinitum?

I would truly appreciate your expertise if it's not a personal secret. You have the epic of epic grow scenes ever posted IMHO.

Peace,
Madjag

 

[CanniDo Cowboy]

Hi Fill,

So here's my $100 question: you, Cannido Cowboy, Mannitoid, and a scarce few others plant directly into the ground while the other epic growers use above ground planters, be they air-pruners or not.

Much has been threaded that the above ground method allows more oxygen to reach the roots with above gorund containers versus only on top of the soil surface with in-the-ground plantings. That school of thought credits their success largely to that aspect.

I believe it is more a question of "the bigger the battery makes for bigger plants" as Tom Hill suggests. That being said, do you have any special soil prep that you'd share, such as Mannitoid's "Soil Lasagna" method of layering various natural amendments in his holes by alternating hay with humus with hay with chicken shit ad infinitum?

I would truly appreciate your expertise if it's not a personal secret. You have the epic of epic grow scenes ever posted IMHO.

Peace,
Madjag

Yea buddy, ol Fill the Kill...lol...Seeing as you mentioned my name MJ, I'd like to throw my 2 gro-cents in, relative to "Growing Large Plants...":

I did bury my pots last year (100 gals) but this year left em all above ground. Buryin the pots created more issues than benefits. The only real benefit was less watering was required but poor drainage around and beneath the buried pot ( mostly clay soil) took away any advantage as to the less water required. One step forward, 2 steps back kind of thing.

Leaving the pots above ground has shown better results this year but here's what Ive learned:
The largest plants, like Fils, are not going to happen in 100 gal Smarties. Respectable size, yes. FilthePot size, no. 200 gal or larger to even think about that size.

IMO, the largest of plants are only going to come in a natural setting ie: beds, trenches, mounds etc, where the roots are NOT being 'air-pruned". The Pots are great for certain applications and have somewhat revolutionized our industry but NOT because the pots grow a better or larger plant. For those who may not know, they were originally designed to "hold back" small saplings/trees waiting to be sold at wholesale/retail nurseries. In other words, aid primarily in reducing the financial losses being suffered at the commercial level from the saplings/trees either dying in too small of containers before resale - time, material and labor costs from having to constantly repot to larger containers again and again before resale and last, when the trees were put into the larger pots, they not only ate up valuable inventory space but they also would begin growing even faster and larger in the bigger pots, compounding the problem. Hence, air pruning fabric..

Our type of plant was perfect for the Smart Pot characteristics in that it is an annual plant and only needs to survive for apprx 6 months and with the air pruning abilities of the pot, it is enuff to get done what we as growers need to get done. And there is a convenience factor. Rent a house, set out your pots, do your thing and take em with you when you move. They are the quintessential "portable" garden. But, the original design of the Smart Pots and others like it remain the same in terms of overall effect: They "contain"...The pots, no matter how large, by their very design, prevent the plant from a "natural' growing cycle.

You can grow very respectable plant (all conditions being considered) in any size pot with reasonable efforts other than "Fill the pot" with all your goodies and go but if you have the time, resources, ability and location to create mounds, trenches, beds etc, and are able to sustain and promote good soil qualities season after season in the same location, IMO, IMO...the results, in terms of plant size, will be much, much greater...CC

 

[SneakySneaky]

Fill, that last picture is awesome! K+++

 

[Aeroguerilla]

I am going to create some mounds next year you got me convinced.

 

[SeaMaiden]

I am going to create some mounds next year you got me convinced.

Aye, between CDC's post and the information offered up once again by jaykush, I've solidified in my mind a plan with a goal. Rice hull char on native earth beds, with additional compost and rock dusts. Cover cropped and green manured, to boot.

It'll be a lot different from working with raised beds, as I've become so accustomed, so I'll need to learn a few new tricks, as well as figure out how to keep the lowers away from the ground when it gets late in the season. The raised beds give some leeway there, and they also make putting up the Hortonova trellis a lot easier. But ZERO root pruning, thus allowing for greatest root growth? Only other question will be spacing.

 

[OrganicBuds]

I grew in mounds this year and found my water table is too high for cannabis. I feel like I didn't need to water all year long. Next year it's back to smart pots again.

 

[boobs]

I don't care what the neighbors say, I'm gonna love you each and every day.

 

[ROOTWISE]

Can't really get whole plant shots anymore, but you get the idea...

The big winners this year are the two phenos of Alien Dawg I acquired in the off season. VERY proper....(HUGE HUGE THANKS)

Center of this first photo with the crazy thick colas is the A-Dawg Twin Towers Cut. Crazy ass shit. Obsoul nailed it on that v1 cross.

A-Dawg Sparkleaf Cut

 

[ROOTWISE]

 

[warthog]

I grew in mounds this year and found my water table is too high for cannabis. I feel like I didn't need to water all year long. Next year it's back to smart pots again.

did you add proper draining amendments to your soil? it may help.. but i know what your saying

WOW rootwise.. those are some thick and long colas man.. i imagine the bud stretches right down most of those branches.. you should be really psyched dude! when is chop chop for you?