SeñorSloth's Perpetual Wardrobe of Dankness

[señorsloth]

ok well i got bored and took some more pics...is anybody watching? cause so far it's been pretty quiet in here...

well i checked my notes and the freshies on the right are actually not so fresh anymore, almost 3.5 weeks old so they are definitely done with stretch...i kinda wish i didn't have so many variables right now cause it's really an amazing accomplishment and i would like to know what specifically caused my plants to finish 4 inches shorter than normal but with the same amount of nodes, if not more! i just did some counting and the vast majority of my plants on the left are 18 inches with 9-10 budding nodes and one top cola, i only counted the first 5 of my younger plants but they are averaging about 13 inches with 10 budding nodes, maybe even 11! it's hard to tell because the top cola isn't formed yet so it might absorb that 11th node.

now that i know i am done with stretch i could move the right bed higher, and tilt it inward, but i think i will wait till sunday to do that, when i harvest my left side, move the right side to the left, and add a new bed of 35 clones on the right...i'll make sure it gets 3 weeks angled as close as possible to the light, also rotating the bed weekly to increase yield...and then the final week it gets dropped as far from the light as possible to finish ripening.

 

[darkstar270]

Very nice señorsloth! I've been tagging along watching the show

 

[xweed420]

what stain is the beautiful big nugs?

 

[LokiLoki]

Good show man! I really like your system with two different nets

 

[señorsloth]

what stain is the beautiful big nugs?

thanks guys! the strain is c99, although there are some skunks tucked in there, i don't like them so i don't take many pics of them, i'm not a skunk guy, i hate that sweet skunk smell, but i couldn't get enough clones off my c99 mom to run a whole bed of cinderella...

i have to take some of the things i've said about the tolerance build up of c99 back...this pheno at least seems to have some pretty strong staying power...it has no ceiling for the first week or so if your tolerance is low, you can smoke till you freak out...(happened to me several times, had to lay down after a few vapor globes, felt like coming off a mushroom trip) but after that first week and for several more weeks it becomes a really potent sativa, with no burn out but a very strong high, great for getting stuff done! sure it wont resist tolerance build up like og kush, that stuff will get me high every day for months...but c99 is no lightweight either, ive been smoking it almost exclusively this past month and i still gotta be a little careful the first toke of everyday...speaking of which, i think i may go watch season 3 of Northern Exposure and smoke a bong...thanks for all the good words!

 

[izzybud]

very nice buds! pics look pretty good. nice setup as well. stay safe

 

[5th]

i think i may go watch season 3 of Northern Exposure and smoke a bong...

lol, good shit.

Yeah I've been watching/following along also. Still lookin' great.

 

[señorsloth]

thanks for the kind words guys!
well today was harvest day for the left side, trichomes were 15-25% amber, and the only white hairs for the most part were on foxtails...they could maybe go another week, but i think it would be on the edge of overripe if i did. anyway i have always taken it day 56 and it's always more than good enough for me...this girl is still my favorite strain after smoking so much of it for so long.

i spent 4-5 hours trimming, took a few pics, and now have all my plants hanging in my drying box. i had already harvested 5 or 6 plants because i was out of pot or my friends were, so it's not a full harvest, but it looks like it's pretty spot on, if not a little above average, the real yield increase will come October 9th, when my next run is done, and also my outdoor done on the same day, should frosts hold back.

here are some pre harvest pics, i'll show you a few pics of my smell proof drying box a little while...also i just re-moistened a bed of soil for my next round and my clones are all set so i'll document that process later tonight, right now i'm waiting for the excess water in the bed to drain out into my tub.

 

[señorsloth]

ok so i took a few pics of my drying box, it has a small gap at the bottom, so that i can push it up against my grow cab like shown in the pics. the air intake for my cab is the bottom front of the box, so the drying box covers the intake perfectly. this means air has to get sucked through the drying box to get into the cab, and is then filtered, making my drying box ventilated and filtered. i generally put a piece of linen over the top of the box, to ensure the air is pulled through the box and doesn't leak upwards.

anyway the next set details my cloning procedure, i got really lucky this round 100% of my clones were rooted in 9 days, even the skunks that usually take longer were ready...on top of that i didn't lose a single leaf, no yellowing, the clones looked just as fresh as the day they were taken...i'm pretty proud of myself, because just a year or two ago i was pretty terrible at it...

anyways fitting 39 clones in a 15" by 20" inch bed of soil can be a bit tricky, it's hard to keep lines straight and spacing even...i learned the hard way last round, and i had a plan this time that worked quite well. basically i made a grid pattern with diatomacious earth, just like those string/chalk lines carpenters use. i plant a plant at every intersection of the lines and also in the center of every open square...

it worked quite well and i was able to go from 24 plants to 35, then 35 to 39 without even changing the spacing...this round is gonna be epic, i'm going to be doing my best to not pick any early so i can establish what kind of grams per watt i'm getting...

also, since i put the clones in 10 inches from the bulb, and they were previously under just 100w of t5 in the veg room i need to harden them off... the way i do this now is to tape a sheet of paper to the glass, right along the midway point, so the left side gets full light and the clone side gets like half strength light for the first day or two...it's a really easy way to do it...lot easier than trying to pull that whole bed in and out of the cab to harden them off the traditional way.

 

[señorsloth]

well we are back to the boring part of my grow...after harvest i generally don't even look at my plants much for the next 2 weeks, i water, and defoliate, then ignore it for two days, then come back and do it again...so i only open the cab every 3-4 days during this part of my grow. basically half the cab is clones and half are at day 30 of budding, i don't find that very interesting personally...this part of my month is generally a bit of a relief...nothing to do all day but smoke some sweet cindy while watching hulu...being self sufficient is pretty nice...

i do defoliate, although because it stresses the plant a little, i do it as little as possible. however, i recognize that indoors, a plants sun leaves have one main purpose, to collect light, outdoors the sun leaves not only collect light but they serve to block out light for the plants around them, weapons of sorts, to allow them to grow faster than the plants around them...thats why sun leaves are much bigger than bud leaves and they are held from the main plant stem by a long leaf stem, so they can reach out and block other plants, around it...the bud leaves do not serve this process...but it's in the best interests of cannabis to win the race to the top of the canopy...be it against other cannabis or not, the taller the plant the more light it gets and the farther the seeds spread...

indoors with wide spacing the sun leaves are fine, they don't get in the way and shouldn't be trimmed unless humidity becomes an issue...but with a tight spacing the sun leaves encourage the plants to stretch and fight each other for canopy space, to block out the ones around it. my plants grow ten nodes, so ten sun leaves, i am shooting this round for them to end up at week 7 with half of their sun leaves on, i don't touch the smaller leaves. so basically, starting week 4 i start adding koolbloom to my maxibloom, and i start trimming one leaf from each plant, each week, to make it less stressful than if i were to just cut 5 leaves off each plant in one day on week 4. also this way the sun leaves are gradually reduced as the bud leaves gradually increase, meaning the plants aren't losing their main power source in any significant way.

with tight spacing and minimal sun leaves you can max on yeild per square meter better, with WIDE spacing and maximum leaves you can max out on yeild per watt a little easier...if you are really good you can max out both yeild per meter and yeild per watt...but right now space is more precious than wattage so i'm shooting for that.

anyways i wanted to post at least one pic...nobody reads my rambling anyway lol but at least i can include a pic and somewhat redeem myself...this is a few grams of bud i quick dried last night, i'm all out cause ive been smoking way too much...this probably wont last me till dinner though i'm gonna be taking a break soon.

anyways i quick dried this last night by putting it on top of my old school non-flat tv, right where the heat vents, then i put a small dry hand towel over it so the heat builds, moisture evaporates off the buds, soaks into the towel, and then i have my ceiling fan blowing gently on that to evaporate the towel moisture, and basically wick the moisture off with low heat and wind, it takes about 12 hours. basically it's like a food dehydrator on low, that uses 10 times as much electricity...someday i'll just buy a food dehydrator...it's better than leaving a 250w tv on all night long, and a ceiling fan that i don't even know how much uses...

 

[señorsloth]

well dry buds are a lot harder for me to capture than wet ones but here are a few i took, the buds aren't 100% dry, they have only been drying for 3 days but i think at day 5 they will be fully ready to jar...

also here is a pic of some sole hash i made, just keifed some leaves in a kief box(i used to make and sell them on ebay), then i puf the kief in a cigarette cellophane, folded it up really small and wrapped in tape, then i taped the little package to the heal of my foot, and walk on it all day long...by the end of the day you go from yellow dust to a rock hard junk of black hash, the heat and pressure carboxylizes it somewhat and makes it better than the kief it came from, imo...

when i'm lazy i do the same thing but i microwave the little package for 25 seconds, then let the hash cool for a minute(it will be super soft when hot)put the little package between two quarters and stick in a vice for an hour or two...

anyways this weekend i'll post a few pics of my cab, things should be more colorful this next round...i started to get a little purpling last round, more like pinking...because it's been like 60 degrees at night and 75 during the day. now that winter is approaching i can crack the window and work on some REAL coloring.

i'm starting a bog medley soon and am hoping for some extra colors in there...

 

[5th]

I'm certain my yields last round were deminished because of defoliating to fast to soon. I'm going to try your way next time. Being more gradual.

So many options now...400w or 600w....190cfm fan or 420...lol... I gotta get off my ass n' get to building a box...

 

[señorsloth]

i always try to defoliate as little as possible, it has a place, it can allow you to stuff more plants in a smaller area and gain yeild...but you can also over do it and end up with a lot of fluffy buds and stress hermies... depends on the strain really, hermie prone ones are worse.

i treat defoliation as part of lst, which is just another tool to keep an even canopy...i crush the stems on the taller ones, strip the first 3 nodes(the ones from the orig clone), and defoliate them a little heavier than the smaller clones, so that i baby the small ones and am a little rough on the biggest healthiest ones, they all end up more uniform...but just like with other forms of lst if i were to go in every day and crush all the stems of my plants arbitrarily for no reason they wouldn't be too happy, a little can be good, but too much just hurts the plants...defoliation is the same way, and the less stress the plant receives the higher it will yield.

anyways buds are cut off the stems now, and sitting in paper bags, ive never tried it before but it seems to be evening things out better...in the winter especcially when it's really dry the outside of my bud will be toast and the inside will be soaking wet, jarring them is too much, cause they still have too much moisture inside them but the outsides are too dry for their own good, the paper grocery bag seems to be an in between thing...not as dry as just hanging in a box, but not as moist as going in the jar early...the bag gives them a little moisture so the outside doesn't get so crunchy but the inside can still dry, it seems to even things out...kinda like putting a pipe in a kiln after it's been blown...

 

[señorsloth]

well things are going slow...here is a little wax i'm smokin' with the ol vapor globe...yeah thats right, lol i got a wax guy...

very rarely this dude will bring back 2-3 grams of whatever when he is bringing back weight from Colorado...i paid 60 bucks for this gram of wax...says it's 84% thc...did i get ripped off? lol it does the trick...though i cracked the package 9 hours ago and it's almost gone...

 

[Henrik]

hey, thanks for the reply! have read almost every thing in the thread now. It seems like you have a nice setup going on. almost the same im putting up now... Helped a lot to get see something alike!

I just still wonder, do you have holes in the plastic inside the frame??? When i was a kid i really fucked up with not making drainage holes in some pots and are a bit unsure about this one... even you mentioned that its not usual to water in beds untill runoff water...

I ran a inside seedgrow with erdpurt-HFH a year ago and like it very much. Still have some stuff. Cant smoke to much from it, then it will turn me into a zombie or something like that... I dont keep records, but i think it was very fast flowering with some thight buds on most of the pheno`s. So Im doing it indoors once again. Have around 20 seedlings to select moms from, also planing on the bonsai style.

 

[señorsloth]

I just still wonder, do you have holes in the plastic inside the frame???

you mean the plastic lining of the beds? yes i have holes, i haven't always, nothing ever comes out of them, it's mostly just a redundancy to avoid water logging the beds, i say redundancy because the shallow depth of the beds and the dense thicket of buds keep it from ever getting that moist, plus a careful water schedule that ive spent many harvests perfecting...in my opinion just because you don't water to runoff doesn't mean you shouldn't still have drainage holes.


anyways here is my next update, i pruned my bonsai moms root balls, i cut an inch around the entire balls, re-potted with new old soil, and watered, the leaves amazingly never drooped...i trimmed back the foliage too, there were parts were growth was so thick it was knotting together and turning whitish yellow. just tons of tiny growth tips growing into each other, cutting off all the dozens of tiny stunted growth tips greatly speeds up growth. at the rate they were going they wouldn't have made enough healthy clones for next round. they were showing signs of root bind and probably a bit of a salt buildup, the c99 was phosphorus deficient and the skunk was nitrogen toxic...both seem to be recovering well and should hopefully give me another 39 clones in 2 weeks...

the 35 plants on the left have 3 weeks left till harvest, the 39 plants on the right are at week one of budding and just starting to sprout hairs.

the density seems to be ideal for this strain, based on the left side, i would think i can't go any denser without the buds touching each other by the end of harvest, as of right now i'm looking at 35 plants averaging about 5 grams a pop...i should be pretty close to the gram per watt this round so im going to try really hard not to harvest any early, although i do still have like 3 runts in this bed and it's about 4 plants short of total so i'll probably have a better chance of making 200 grams next month...i'm not really that concerned though because my outdoor crop should be ready around the same day as my next indoor harvest.

 

[señorsloth]

well i'm bored so here is another update...i think the left side is at 5.5 weeks and the right is at 1.5 weeks. the left side is plumping up nicely, although i'm still a little worried that i wont make my 5 gram per plant goal with my new denser sog beds...i guess even at 4 grams i'll still be outyeilding my old beds..i don't think i will have an issue making 5 grams per plant on the left side, because the canopy is super even compared to the other side...no stunted clones

i hate killing clones as you see so my 3 extra are sitting in a solo cup, my next run i will transplant them in with my new clones, so that they will get at least 10 weeks...this is really a 9 week skunk but i have to pick it at 8...i hate skunk either way though so it makes no difference to me...i can't wait till i can afford to get a few more moms...

i'm beginning to think a few higher yielding moms would make getting that gram per watt a lot easier...i'm almost certain id be blowing the gram per watt away if i had the opportunity to run 1000 watts...i would keep the same density but go for a deaper sog...so more grams per square foot...

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

wow, not only did you start this thread on my B-day but we seem to have similar grow styles. difference is i like to flower out big plants. i had a cab for flower and have a cab that i use for veg and moms. like the sig says . . .

i normally have a shitload of plants, since im in love with that whole "turnkey' style of growing. had at least 3 runs worth of plants (1 in flower, 2 in waiting)/ 2xNL moms all totally zapped by 2 days of hot/humid weather so needless to say i needed to re-vamp my whole shit!

i had to stop to get things together with my space and while doing all of that have decided to take time to review what i do,have done, can change and need to change going forward.

im waiting the cold season out and hope to be in full swing after winter is over (its easier to vent heat out than it is to heat up a cold area).

you type a hell of a lot!!!! lol, dont feel offended, i do the same thing aswell in my threads, so i honestly dig it.

anyway, i think what you could do, if you got teh funds to buy some lumber (lol, not working right now so yes loot/funds are a problem for me too) is just frame the cab out with 2x4's on the outside. mdf +(moisture+weight) will never equal to anything good

i'll try to keep up and keep watch on your thread aswell, yoru doing fine so happy growing. ive gotta couple "half-assed" grow diaries on here if you wanna check em out

be seein ya around, i just troll these days.

 

[señorsloth]

thanks for taking a look!

ya the mdf isn't ideal, i mean it's not bad, mdf is really strong, in a way, the cab is like bomb proof, but if you over turn screws in mdf it's so easy to just strip out, and mdf is soooo much heavier than plywood. but my cab has lasted 2 years, and i have been pretty half assed with it. with a little upkeep it could easily last a decade i think...

i spent a whole day putting in a new plywood bottom the other day, it took a ton of work cause the cab weighs at least 400pounds, i can't tip it over by myself...the problem was actually that i missed the board when i was screwing it in place with about half the screws! i know, i am a dumbass, professional cabinetmaker can't even build a wardrobe...lol half the screws not actually being in the bottom plate was a mistake, since that bottom plate holds the entire cab above wheels, and once the mdf got wet and soft the 400 pound cab just sunk, so the bottom plate rose up inside my veg cab and made even less room.

anyways fixing the bottom got me thinking about making a whole new cab, out of strong light plywood, reinforced like hell and designed down to the tiniest detail to be strong, light, and most of all actually look common enough to not attract attention during my once every 4 year apartment inspections...the plan is to seal the hell out of it with several layers of clear coat. that way i can keep things from molding and swelling, ive been kinda thinking about lining it with fiberglass resin and making fiberglass beds that fit in perfectly. ive got lots of ideas, and a few weeks to design it...ive got a ton of ideas to improve the old one, plus somebody willing to buy the old one off me for the price of supplies for a new one...

i wont be able to afford to do any of that however unless my outdoor grow pans out and i have learned the most important part about guerrilla growing is to not plan on a harvest, it's too easy to get your hopes up and leverage money against a harvest, only to have it stolen the day before your cut date, but if all goes well and i get that harvest i'll be building a whole new cab, with a new filter, fan, light bulb, ballast, and bigger veg light...bigger veg area and smaller budding area...seal the whole thing super well so it never molds...ahhh pipe dreams...at this point i think pulling off my outdoor harvest will be like winning a mini lottery...

 

[supermanlives]

looking good ss. i too hate killing plants . luckilly i can toss em outside at will.