Regulate Marijuana Like Wine CA 2012

[oceangrownkush]

I know there's a lot of people who think like me.. I don't think Cannabis should be regulated, at all, ever. It has been marginalized and criminalized for too long, it would be a slap in the face to me to have gone from criminal to revenue stream. I don't want to see it bastardized, I'd prefer there remain a few free markets and for all intents and purposes (what with patient to patient donations being protected) that's exactly what we have here already and I don't want to fix something that IMO aint broken.. I know that won't be popular with some of you but thats the way I see it and I know that's the way A LOT of other patients see it.

 

[Hammerhead]

Cali does not have any Initiatives on the Nov Ballot. I'm sure there are just as many that do want cannabis legalized. The only way for that to happen is with regulation. any substance that alters your brain chemistry will 100% need to be regulated. its up to you whether you want big pharma to take it or fight to keep it with the people.

 

[oceangrownkush]

Ehh, I don't know who made their rules so I don't play their game. If they want to pretend Cannabis is hot lava they can have their fun, I'll still be tokin one way or another. Hopefully some semblance of sanity in law someday arrives but I highly doubt more regulation will ever change that.. If the US government operated by their own constitution there would be no dispute over the legality of State authorized medicinal Cannabis use.. Its a clear violation of the 10th amendment of the Bill of Rights for them to "trump" state law with their own federal policies. That is the point at which I lost my faith in Government to successfully regulate a damn thing, much less swallow their pride and admit that Cannabis prohibition is the most ludicrous law imaginable... Anyways, sorry for derailing your thread, there was a lot of earlier discussion which struck notes with me so I wanted to chip in my 2 pence. I particularly enjoyed the bit where it was mentioned that slavery ended abruptly and not in "baby steps", as current activists have been so proud to have accomplished...

I'll end the rant now, sorry about your Cannabis/Wine initiative HH. Peace.

 

[SCF]

OceanGrownKush, try buying Tobacco seeds...


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Bill Fails too bad. this would of been for the better.

Hammer I too am disappointed, and saddened. There is clearly a division between medical users and recreation users when it comes to full legalization and how we achieve that without harming the medical laws now in effect. I'm not really set in stone what I want either it is a confusing issue at times for me. With AB2312 passing committe in Cali yesterday, and if it passes the assembly, taxation will begin to happen and we will have to get involved in that issue. Be well..DD

Heres your answer. No

Legislative deadline brings mixed results for marijuana policy in Sacramento; Ammiano cancels committee vote on AB 2312

June 1 was the crossover deadline for the California State Legislature, meaning that bills had to be voted out of their chamber of origin or they would die. The deadline brought drama and mixed results.

Assemblyman Tom Ammiano's AB 2312 — which sought to create the Board of Medical Marijuana Enforcement within the California Department of Consumer Affairs to oversee and enforce medical marijuana in California — passed the Assembly by a vote of 41-30, with nine not voting. The bill, which would have clearly allowed for collective and cooperative growing, as well as storefront dispensaries, then headed to the Senate to go through the committee process.

On June 25, Assemblyman Ammiano cancelled the planned committee vote on AB 2312. Instead of voting on the bill, the Senate Committee on Business, Professions and Economic Development granted his request to study the issue of regulating the medical marijuana industry after the legislative session ends. The well-respected committee has a great deal of expertise in regulating professional industries and is expected to examine issues like whether regulation should fall under an existing agency or a new board. It is expected to issue a report and also hold public hearings.

The crossover deadline also brought an untimely end to two good drug policy bills authored by Sen. Mark Leno. SB 1506 — which proposed “defelonizing” simple possession of all drugs, including hash — received a Senate vote, but sadly, the chamber voted the bill down, 11 – 24, with six not voting. The other bill, SB 1182, would have removed criminal penalties for medical marijuana providers who act in compliance with the Guidelines For The Security And Non-Diversion Of Marijuana Grown For Medical Use, published by the attorney general’s office in 2008. Sen. Leno did not call this bill to a Senate vote.

 

[SeaMaiden]

I think that ASA involvement and in-fighting is going to do more to bring the cause to its knees than stuff like this not making the ballot. In the meantime, more and more states (hello, Arkansas!) are getting MMJ measures onto their ballots.

 

[SCF]

SeaMaiden, we thought this along time ago. they also thought with President Nixon they were going to legalize it... LOL