HEADY BLUNTS' LIVING SOIL EXTRAVAGANJA

[dank.frank]

hahaha...

Could one buy aloe vera gel and use it? I don't have fresh or forageable ....

We are talking the same thing by doing this or no?


dank.Frank

 

[heady blunts]

others have recommended "lily of the desert" brand aloe concentrate.

they grow well in containers, too.

 

[BlueJayWay]

^^^ I've been using Lilly of the Desert, get's my :thumbsup:

 

[BlueJayWay]

Since when does :thumbsup: not = lame LOL

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Lily of the Desert is the largest packer of Aloe vera products in the USA. But they're not all equal - read the label and bypass those that have Sodium Benzoate as a preservative.

The other preservatives that are used are fine - just this one should be avoided.

CC

 

[handyandy]

could you add aloe to ACT with ewc and molases and bubble. or would aloe alone work best?

 

[John Deere]

I found a relatively local aloe juice at Whole Foods. Citric acid and potassium sorbate are the only additives.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I found a relatively local aloe juice at Whole Foods. Citric acid and potassium sorbate are the only additives.

That's the type of preservatives you want to see - good product.

It isn't Aloe Vera Farms out of Texas is it? That's a really nice product that a couple of the organic food markets carry around here.

CC

 

[dank.frank]

Thanks for the specifics folks!



dank.Frank

 

[BlueJayWay]

FWIW - I noticed on the store shelf they (Lilly of the Desert) have both "inner fillet" and "whole leaf" juices and for each type they have "traditional" and "preservative free."

Traditional contains potassium sorbate as a mold inhibitor, they both contain citric acid (PH stabilizer)

Potassium sorbate is produced by neutralizing potassium hydroxide with sorbic acid, an unsaturated carboxylic acid that occurs naturally in some berries

Potassium sorbate is produced by reacting sorbic acid with an equimolar portion of potassium hydroxide. The resulting potassium sorbate may be crystallized from aqueous ethanol.

herbal dietary supplement products generally contain potassium sorbate, which acts to prevent mold and microbes and to increase shelf life, and is used in quantities at which there are no known adverse health effects, over short periods of time

Lilly of the Desert states:

Lily of the Desert's Preservative Free aloe vera juice product line has set a new standard in the aloe vera industry by providing consumers the first and only USDA Certified Organic aloe vera juice. These products contain the full range of health benefits found in Lily of the Desert aloe vera products while not having the preservatives. Without preservatives, the juices have a cleaner, and lighter taste

I would like to think this is a new product and will replace the "traditional" type - but most likely they will continue to make "traditional" type where a longer shelf life is needed. ***Not to say that the amount of Potassium Sorbate used has any ill effect on our purposes*** Just interesting to note, and that the option is there.

 

[John Deere]

Nope. Not a Texan.

It's good stuff. Cold processed, not made from concentrate, no water added, gluten free. (reading the label) IIRC it was around $8/qt.

 

[heady blunts]

aloe must grow well in texas i'd imagine...

 

[chief bigsmoke]

We have the Lily of the Desert aloe vera product and its great. for plants and humans.. but be warned.. it tastes super gross.

 

[silver hawaiian]

We have the Lily of the Desert aloe vera product and its great. for plants and humans.. but be warned.. it tastes super gross.

Glad you mentioned this - it's also been on my radar a bit lately, mostly because of you two..

I recall having read somewhere (your thread maybe?) that there's a substantial difference between the product and the raw deal itself..?

I need to learn more about this. Off to read. Will probably get distracted by bikinis or fark or something.

 

[heady blunts]

oh yea here's the top studmuffins:

blush


fbpk


i chopped them and put them in a vase to collect the pollen. now i call them "ZOM-BOYS" har har har har

 

[sunnydog]

oh yea here's the top studmuffins:

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i chopped them and put them in a vase to collect the pollen. now i call them "ZOM-BOYS" har har har har

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[ClackamasCootz]

Glad you mentioned this - it's also been on my radar a bit lately, mostly because of you two..

I recall having read somewhere (your thread maybe?) that there's a substantial difference between the product and the raw deal itself..?

I need to learn more about this. Off to read. Will probably get distracted by bikinis or fark or something.

Silver Hawaiian

Fresh aloe vera leaves (fillets - whatever) are sold at Mexican food markets. You can save a ton of money by calling the wholesale produce supplier and buy a case which is 30# and should run about $17.00

You can also grow this plant obviously just remember that it originated in Africa so anything below 50F will usually kill the plant so containers can be used and you move the plant inside the house near a window and let it 'winter over'

The next option are the concentrated powders which is how the overwhelming majority of aloe vera is processed. It comes in either spray-dried (Mexico & China) or freeze-dried (Australia). Both of these are available in pharmaceutical grade (which also means food grade). These powders come in 50XX, 100XX and 200XX which means that if you take 1 gram of the 200XX and mix that with 199 grams water then you end up with 200 grams of pure aloe vera extract. Same with the 100XX and 50XX. A kilo of the 200XX will make something like 50 gallons of pure extract and the price is $250.00 for the premium stuff so that works about to be about $5.00 per gallon of pure, unadulterated aloe vera extract.

Read BlueJayWay's description on the Potassium Sorbate and a similar process is how you end up with Sodium Benzoate. Aloe vera contains high levels of Benzoic acid which begins to ferment within a few minutes once it's exposed to air so salt is added and that's creates Sodium Benzoate. Since salt is cheap this is the preservative that you see most often on bottled products.

The freeze-dried and spray-dried are not tweaked at all so that when you mix the powder & water you have the same issue about the Benzoic acid as you do when you use fresh aloe vera juice.

If you're mixing just the amount needed to water your plants then you don't need to be concerned but if you're processing a large amount of leaves that would give you a sizable amount of extract then this should to be taken into consideration. Even then you still have to keep the juice refrigerated.

CC

 

[heady blunts]

hey everyone

finally got over to my friend's place to give those dry pots a treatment of aloe.

btw immersion blenders are amazing.




here's heady's source of aloe:

 

[heady blunts]

took pics of everyone, too.

shall we start w/ the youngins again?

KM x B/CB 1

KM x B/CB 3

and my little mutant NL5/N.HAZE

these pots were suffering pretty badly from the hydrophobia. i'm gonna observe how the mutant reacts before i pull it. it's kinda cute anyway!

 

[heady blunts]

here are the BOG plants.

the blush looks really beautiful. has a nice stinky kush/skunk thing going on too. the male i posted about last week had a similar stink and produced a nice amount of pollen, so they are definitely getting matched up at some point.



I wish i could say the same about the sourbubbles:

sb 1

sb 3&4