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Secret Ingredient?!?
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MrSterling
I guess by letting people talk you mean people who share your views? The rest of us can be accused of disrupting the conversation. Keep your talk, there's too much bullshit ego here lately. 
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BlueJayWay
coconut milk & rice milk - that's my secret ingredient...
...in my cereal this morning
...in my cereal this morning
No. I mean people who are discussing the topics, and not discussing other people.I guess by letting people talk you mean people who share your views? The rest of us can be accused of disrupting the conversation. Keep your talk, there's too much bullshit ego here lately.
coconut milk & rice milk - that's my secret ingredient...
...in my cereal this morning
Secret's out!
cereals in! Lol
I am sorry you feel that way Mr. Sterling--and I certainly hope you there is not one instant on this thread or anyother ICMAG thread where I ridiculed someone for the idea/concept/method. If there is...then I apologize! I know I may sound critical, or as you say...trolling, but my objective is to question authority and instigate more "out of the box" thinking.
Yes, I ridicule and poke fun at the few that "drive by" and call people names or think their "opinions" and "comments" are truly "facts". Hey, that's fun! Someone's gotta hold foolish feet to the fire and correct misinformation.
But when it comes to facts...people should be able to have an open debate and draw on resources/experiences to support their position. In the end a winner is declared (based on the presentation of argument and facts) and then everyone moves on with the loser buying the winners beer (at least that they way we did it in college). IMHO, the real knowledge IS what you learned to defend your views and what you learned to understand your opponent's position...everyone learns.
I think, Mr Sterling, we both agree: There are soooo many paths to the same destination--but to believe that one person, group, tribe, or clan has a monopoly on all the good ideas is rather narcissistic point of view...and a potential indicator a person might have issues with "insecurity".
Yeah...like I said, I am a 98% organic principled--and I admit the other 2% are chems. It has nothing to do with cost or easiness--rather it is all about this complication: When there is no "organic" alternative, should one do "nothing" or should one employ a "chem" alternative? I selected the latter and made disclosure that 2% is not "organic".
Cheers!
Well I have been gifted a compost made from recycled paper, EWC and coir...
...I've bought some Neem fertiliser...
...I'll let you know how I get on!
...I've bought some Neem fertiliser...
...I'll let you know how I get on!
OK....OK.....ok
I have had enough.
08-21-2012 04:28 AM
08-24-2012, 07:06 AM
AND ONE MORE...
08-22-2012, 09:15 AM
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5273657&postcount=49
You should be ashamed. Popping in and out of these threads like your the organic guru and complaining when no one agrees with your quackery. If you was really about the "organishisness" you would be educating yourself and others on using dangerous "man made pesticides"
We used to talk of organic concepts and practices round here but I guess times a changing........
Or we have invaders????
Kick rocks dude... Your organic pass is revoked...
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bajangreen
Hey EclipseFour20 you really like your raw milk, do you live in an apartment or farm type setting? or do you have a Cow? For me raw milk is hard to get, i like the taste though it taste so much different from milk bought from store. But it is sooooooooooooooo hard to get for even me and i live in the country. So my question to you is this. How much more effective is raw milk than the different milks from on the shelf. Please, i don't want a long list of links i cant read them and keep up with this treat at the same time. I just want your opinion i trust that (for now then you can send the links) would you say its benifits are as different as the taste or maybe like 10% better than evaporated milk. Or is there a better type of processed milk to use or one to stay away from.
Are the Other contents of raw milk found in my amendments like say compost? or is raw milk a great source of something you cant get from other sources and finally how does raw milk compared to coconut water?
I am no expert i just want to farm using natural means.
Are the Other contents of raw milk found in my amendments like say compost? or is raw milk a great source of something you cant get from other sources and finally how does raw milk compared to coconut water?
I am no expert i just want to farm using natural means.
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BlueJayWay
OK OK, my secret ingredient is the sap oozing from my flowers, I mix it 1ml to 5gal and soil drench everything:
or have him stick around and convince him otherwise. Nothing to fear here.
LOL....sounds like someone is a wee bit intolerant and does not like or is afraid of opposing views.
But seriously, sorry if I offended you...but thanks for the "guru" reference! Never really considered myself a guru, although I do have lots of alphabet soup behind my name--but nothing related to growing plants. I guess one advantage of "age" is when you have around 60 years old, besides having a license to be a "grumpy old man", your brain has around 60 years of life experiences to draw on for problem solving...not to mention the wealth of knowledge acquired from each success and failure, aka "lessons learned".
Thanks for emphasizing a point for me--from all the ICMAG posts you quoted, you can see that I freely shared what I knew and not never demanded others do what I do--nor ridiculed those that did not or had a different opinion.
My objective is simple--using all the tools and resources available to me, to responsibly grow and bring to market a superior product that is full of aromas and flavors (potency is always assumed).
I agree with organic principles about 98%, with biodynamic principles about 50%..."hydroponic principles" about 0%. To blindly following a specific principle, religion, school of thought or philosophy without questioning its authority, is not in my DNA.
I WELCOME opposing views, but please just back up your facts with good sound science...that way, we ALL can learn what you learned. I will always respect your opinion....since it is impossible to debate opinions, as they are individually formed.
Cheers and WITH RESPECT!
Breast milk and/yoghurt helps clear nappy rash right up!
I welcome 100 % organics solutions not made to fit my project plan mr alphabet soup. This forum section incorporates the philosophy of using 100% approaches to all means. Now don't get me wrong, I see points in portions of your methods but I do not respect you using the guise "organic" for which you are not. Your posts belong in the indoor soil threads not here. Over and out I'm done here....
Eclipse; I looked at your links. The first is an abstract which does not support what you said. If you've read my thread posted along with links you'll now know I said as much and more last year as your other links. It is actually superphosphate and triple superphosphate which have the highest levels of polonium 210 and lead 210. (AFAIK)
After I initiated the thread, my colleague, Spurr undertook a thorough research project on the subject and discovered only one form of phosphorus fertilizer which is 98% polonium 210 free. I do not know if I am at liberty to discuss this but it is a dry processing rather than the wet used with superphosphates. The price is sky high.
As I stated, why use phosphorus at all? There is some in plant based [vermi]compost, fish hydrolysate. I do use minimal amounts of soft rock phosphate in an initial soil mix (to last years) but I'm rethinking whether it is good in ACT. Instead of phosphorus fertilizers use [vermi]compost and Glomus intraradices.
I did have a source of mined soft rock phosphate which is relatively free of heavy metals and non-processed but it seems to have dissappeared recently.
After I initiated the thread, my colleague, Spurr undertook a thorough research project on the subject and discovered only one form of phosphorus fertilizer which is 98% polonium 210 free. I do not know if I am at liberty to discuss this but it is a dry processing rather than the wet used with superphosphates. The price is sky high.
As I stated, why use phosphorus at all? There is some in plant based [vermi]compost, fish hydrolysate. I do use minimal amounts of soft rock phosphate in an initial soil mix (to last years) but I'm rethinking whether it is good in ACT. Instead of phosphorus fertilizers use [vermi]compost and Glomus intraradices.
I did have a source of mined soft rock phosphate which is relatively free of heavy metals and non-processed but it seems to have dissappeared recently.
I think we are saying the same thing--the intent in the first link is to establish that uranium stripping does occur when manufacturing TSP--not that it was uranium free. You and your colleague Spurr know more about this topic than I will ever know!
Intent of the second link is to establish that uranium sources include a fertilizer "byproduct" as a result of a chemical stripping process. With the assumption that fertilizers processed with this chemical stripping process can not be called "organic", then logic says, if you two phosphate products, one "organic" and the other "non-organic"....wouldn't "organic" phosphate potentially have a higher uranium content?
So putting the two together--I assume fertilizer companies will want to maximize their profits and increase and capture more of the uranium being stripped. The old business adage, why give it away if you can sell it?
Why use phosphates? Four words: It works for me.
Am I wrong? Thanks!
The organic (soft rock phosphate) may(will) not generate as much radioctive material in the trichomes because it is less mobile and not taken up in as large amounts. [hypothetically stated]
four words back;
How do you know?
four words back;
How do you know?
He just explained how and why you were in fact, incorrect in your "potentially" scenario, ie link #2.
In my opinion, many of your links have little if anything to do with cannabis production or trials. General agriculture is use to formulate and copy said trials on our chosen plant, but until it is actually done, much of said blending the "facts", is NOT a fact, but merely as you said yourself, presumable via logic.
And yes, please do keep it STRICTLY organics in this sub-forum. Call me old fashioned, but I don't care to sort through your posts to deconstruct the polluted bits...
I'd listen and consider your information more valuable if you didn't still think you were "boosting" the plants processes with poisons, ie chemicals.
ALL organic folks view it as sacrilege - please be respectful of where you are.
No offense intended, but keep that 2% - which again is an abstract statement/percentage...to the appropriate sections of the site.
Kinda glad someone called you on it - I was about to myself!
dank.Frank
In my opinion, many of your links have little if anything to do with cannabis production or trials. General agriculture is use to formulate and copy said trials on our chosen plant, but until it is actually done, much of said blending the "facts", is NOT a fact, but merely as you said yourself, presumable via logic.
And yes, please do keep it STRICTLY organics in this sub-forum. Call me old fashioned, but I don't care to sort through your posts to deconstruct the polluted bits...
I'd listen and consider your information more valuable if you didn't still think you were "boosting" the plants processes with poisons, ie chemicals.
ALL organic folks view it as sacrilege - please be respectful of where you are.
No offense intended, but keep that 2% - which again is an abstract statement/percentage...to the appropriate sections of the site.
Kinda glad someone called you on it - I was about to myself!
dank.Frank
I live in surbubia southern cali...and I purchase Raw Milk at Mothers Market and they always have an ample supply. Never tried evaporated milk and probably would not--as Raw Milk is not homogenized (heated to kill bacteria). All other milk products are homogenized--everything is basically killed and milk producers must add back all the beneficial stuff they just killed (which in theory they could probably add to beer--causing beer to be just as nutritious as milk...lol).
I stumbled on Raw Milk benefits by accident while fighting a nasty battle of Powdery Mildew. Spraying 25% milk/water solution during the last few weeks in flower did arrest the PM without burning the hairs (like potassium bicarbonate). But more importantly I noticed the buds that were sprayed with Raw Milk had a deeper color, looked more plump and alive. Doing some research on Raw Milk I discovered the article about a farmer that got 27% boost in fescue grass production with a mere 3 gallons of raw milk per acre.
Did a test run (half with Raw Milk, half none) and after 30 days in flower it was real obvious which was which. The Raw Milk plants received 10ml (I now use 5ml) of Raw Milk every 21 days and appeared more healthier, buds were fuller, and the leaves stayed green all the way to harvest. The other plants did their normal thing with leaves turning that nice autumn color about a week before harvest.
Smoke report...at first (under 30 days) the aromas of both were about the same, but the Raw Milk herb had a more complex flavor and seemed more resinous (according to wifey--she does the manicuring and collects finger hash--said the Raw Milk plants had about half as much more finger hash).
After 30 days jar cure, both appeared similar--but distinctly different. The Raw Milk buds were slightly more heavier (after weighing 7 grams of buds from both batches, the pile of Raw Milk buds appeared smaller)
The stone effects (beginning, middle and end) were about the same, a little nuance here or there maybe, but the Raw Milk buds had a deeper flavor and slightly more complex aroma. When the collective received the flowers, they noticed the difference right away. Funny, they thought the Raw Milk batch flowered an extra week, since the knew I was experimenting with 80 and 90 day runs.
I recently cut some extra clones for some comparison runs.....like Raw Milk, Agrowinn Minerals, Sea90, time release 14-14-14, and what not. Not that it would be definitive, but at least I will have an idea of what each potentially contributes.
Hope the above helps, Baja.
