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Living organic soil from start through recycling

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12ver

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Thanks to all of you for all the great info in this thread, I harvested my compost bin yesterday for my veg garden and there were thousands of red worm (lots of leaf mold), are these the same as used for a worm bin? Can I just harvest them instead of buying worms? and also bought some comfrey roots!
 

ClackamasCootz

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Thanks to all of you for all the great info in this thread, I harvested my compost bin yesterday for my veg garden and there were thousands of red worm (lots of leaf mold), are these the same as used for a worm bin? Can I just harvest them instead of buying worms?
Yes they are the same used for worm bins (Eisenia foetida) yes you should harvest instead of buying worms!

Great money saver with worms around $35.00 per lb. or more

That isn't to say that this is the only species used but it's the main one at least in the USA except Hawaii where there is a ban on importing this species and therefore the Malaysian Blues are permitted.

HTH

CC
 

ClackamasCootz

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Feel-good story of the day from Portland, Oregon - LMAO

A Portland man identified his stolen bike when the thief put it up for sale on Seattle Craigslist. So he wrote an email offering to buy the bike, and traveled to Seattle with backup and cameras. When the thief showed up to sell him his bike back, “Simon” confronted him and chased him down.

It’s pretty entertaining to watch the guy lie about where he lives, how he got the bike, how he thinks Craigslist works, and whether he’s ever even heard the word “bike” before. (“I don’t even know how you would steal a bike!” What?") It’s pretty entertaining to see a low-speed bike/walking chase. It’s pretty entertaining to watch the Seattle PD get baffled about concepts like “bike ownership” and “shorts.” And it’s really entertaining to watch this scumbag get put in the back of a cruiser.

The dude ended up getting arrested for trafficking stolen goods, which is pretty hilarious since from the video he clearly thought “I knew it was stolen, but people buy and sell stolen stuff all the time!” was a logical defense.

The videos at the link are funny as hell - dumbest thief ever!
 

ixnay007

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ixnay007

Thanks for the information - it does look like an 'ancient plant; - definitely a winter crop - well, you get the idea.

We saute it in olive oil with garlic and red pepper flakes over pasta. Pretty healthy dinner that actually tastes good.

Unlike tofu, alfalfa sprouts, etc. No thank you!

CC
That is a good way to eat em, we also sautee em like that, but they go in a piada with some prosciutto crudo and cheese :D

Plus the red pepper is good for the prostate :)
 

12ver

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Yes they are the same used for worm bins (Eisenia foetida) yes you should harvest instead of buying worms!

Great money saver with worms around $35.00 per lb. or more
HTH

CC

thank you for your Quick reply and help, ClackamasCootz! There is a farm here that sells them for $20 a pound but if I can have them for free:)
 

Gascanastan

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Day 1 of 12/12....Organic recycled living soil....lets see what happens over the next 65 days.

Will not be touching a ph meter,will be using well or rain water,might do some aloe foliars,barley sprout watering,proly a compost/ewc topdress and an ACT to kick the topdress off in mid-flower...and that's it.

These ladies are in their positions for flowering,all tops staked up to avoid heavy buds from falling down later in flowering,8 types,30 plants,6K watts,5 gallon pots,Hortilux bulbs.

May have to keep up with some heavy duty organic plant based mite sprays...which could damage tissue on some types leaves...that could get ugly....and considering the realistic legalities and security issues of indoor dungeon cannabis gardening....I hope this crop can reach harvest undisturbed by babylon BS.

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jerry111165

I heard you can turn your strain strawberry by adding some strawberry nestle quik to your nute regimen, but the secret is to use the powder, not the syrup

Well now that's just silly. Everybody knows you need fresh organic strawberries.

Sheesh.

J
 
Kale,.......I eat it raw daddy.

My wife took an amazing natural nutrition course as an undergrad - since then, I haven't been allowed to eat kale, broccoli, and other 'tough' plants without at least steaming them for 5 minutes - if eaten raw, your digestive system has trouble breaking down the plant walls fast enough to extract nutrients before it ends up in the toilet. You get the fiber either way, tho.
 
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jerry111165

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Have you grown a kale variety called 'Lacinato' - also known as Tuscan kale, Tuscan cabbage, Italian kale, Dinosaur kale, cavolo nero, black kale, flat back cabbage, palm tree kale, or black Tuscan palm - LOL

That's the one that I like as it doesn't have that acrid taste of the curly-leaf varieties (Red Russian as I learned this year!!)

Here's a photo and it definitely looks different...

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Sorry - this was always the curly as hell leafed variety that all the Portugese families used - but I will say that the soup was amazing - it "tasted" like it was good for you - like some foods will.

Speaking of food, Maine lobster is at an all time low out here - to the point where I feel pretty bad for the lobstermen. We are getting it off the dock for around $2.50 a pound.

I'm kinda irritated. I am renting a few houses for the men on a project. I had left around 30 lobster shells out back drying in the sun so I could bring them home for the compost heap only to come back and find them all gone.

Damn owner said they smelled too much so he threw them out on me.

J
 
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BlueJayWay

Alright Gascan! Lookin' forward to watchin you see this one through - fuck them mites!

Are you doing anything special to the ladies in this first week?

I'm perpetually perpetual, every other week is a first week for me, trying to condense down phases so maybe just a new start once a month, too much goin' on @ once, start forgettin' things!
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I went ahead and did my alfalfa sprout foliar (courtesy of the Cootz) on the whole gang, minus the batch that's two weeks to harvest.. yeah... they're prayin' :D haha. On the four Sour Grape that are one week into flower, you could have sit there and watched the "circular formed" set of leaves that wrap around the top cola go from maybe a 10deg. angle upwards to a 60deg angle upwards within a couple hours, NICE, K+++ my man.

We'll see what tomorrow brings, lights out for today -

Headed to the Botanical Gardens to pick up buckets and buckets of, get this, vegan worm castings, yeah, they're green waste fed only ha! The brand I was buying @ the garden center is chicken and horse shit fed, I do prefer the green waste fed, or at least the fact it's coming from a smaller more caring facility...
 
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YosemiteSam

Day 1 of 12/12....Organic recycled living soil....lets see what happens over the next 65 days.

Will not be touching a ph meter,will be using well or rain water,might do some aloe foliars,barley sprout watering,proly a compost/ewc topdress and an ACT to kick the topdress off in mid-flower...and that's it.

These ladies are in their positions for flowering,all tops staked up to avoid heavy buds from falling down later in flowering,8 types,30 plants,6K watts,5 gallon pots,Hortilux bulbs.

May have to keep up with some heavy duty organic plant based mite sprays...which could damage tissue on some types leaves...that could get ugly....and considering the realistic legalities and security issues of indoor dungeon cannabis gardening....I hope this crop can reach harvest undisturbed by babylon BS.

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I am kinda curious how many bamboos you put in a pot?

And no joke now...I read on the Nutri Tech site that insect attack is a response to the plant sending off infra red radiation and that radiation is influenced by sap pH.

I forget which way is which...but lower than 6.4 is suppose to attract either insects or fungus and vice versa. Supposedly influenced by the amount of alkalizing metals in the plant itself...Ca, K, Mg.

You don't happen to have a sap pH meter laying around do you.

(puts on flame retardant suit)
 

shmalphy

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I read on the Nutri Tech site that insect attack is a response to the plant sending off infra red radiation and that radiation is influenced by sap pH.

I forget which way is which...but lower than 6.4 is suppose to attract either insects or fungus and vice versa. Supposedly influenced by the amount of alkalizing metals in the plant itself...Ca, K, Mg.
I have always noticed the mites attack the hot spots in the garden. My theory was that the plants "sweated" some form of sap or stress signal which basically tells the mites "cleanup aisle three"

YS, are you saying overfeeding leads to mites?
 
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YosemiteSam

I will see if I can find the article. Overfeeding should not be the problem in this case for sure. It could have been in that free e book they give you for signing up...one of the interviews.

I was actually just curious if what Nutri Tech was saying is true or not. If someone has mites and we measured after a while we would know.

Although, not sure it would change a single thing.
 

Scrappy4

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I don't think that it's any great secret that bugs attack stressed plants. I read that in composting books written in the eighteen hundreds. In a way it's like a predator picking out weaker prey. And it's no secret healthy plants have a higher brix reading(simple sugars). That the mechanisms are being found for well known plant characteristics is interesting, but not earth shattering unless your selling testing equipment.....scrappy
 

Gascanastan

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I am kinda curious how many bamboos you put in a pot?

And no joke now...I read on the Nutri Tech site that insect attack is a response to the plant sending off infra red radiation and that radiation is influenced by sap pH.

I forget which way is which...but lower than 6.4 is suppose to attract either insects or fungus and vice versa. Supposedly influenced by the amount of alkalizing metals in the plant itself...Ca, K, Mg.

You don't happen to have a sap pH meter laying around do you.

(puts on flame retardant suit)

I put a stick on every budding site....no going back around to do it again ya know....doing it right the first time...no half ass shit.
 

ClackamasCootz

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The Edge...there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others - the living - are those who pushed their control as far as they felt they could handle it, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between Now and Later” - Dr. Gonzo
 

Gascanastan

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I think that what you need is some professional growing advice and boy do I have a tag-team for you to consider.......

No thanks.... lost and with little hope is what first comes to mind there. The guys that used to stand on the street corner babbling incoherantly and asking for something to eat now have followers on the internet. Crazy is crazy on or off the net IMO.....

I is bean down at the local swimming hole while all this heat is on......room temps at 9pm are a bit high at 90 degrees.....then dropping down to 85 as the night progresses......thank jumping jesus I'm no longer in veg during the heat of the day.

Possible application of barley watering 2nite...still planning before and after pix....
It's just too damn hot to hang around anywhere but the lake atm....
 
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