HEADY BLUNTS' LIVING SOIL EXTRAVAGANJA

[ClackamasCootz]

One of their 'best & brightest' was detained and arrested at John Wayne Airport when it was discovered that his luggage contained 20 cans of kernel corn except there wasn't any corn - just hits of Orange Sunshine. Thankfully for his goat-stinkin' ass this was before the draconian drug laws passed in the Reagan years - he never would have seen the light of day. As it was he only did 2 years (probably rolled-over) and disappeared from Laguna forever. Good idea!

The claim was made in the early days that the reason these guys were so successful is that they were 'enlightened' and 'had the juice'

Yep - enlightened was my first thought

 

[Gascanastan]

One of their 'best & brightest' was detained and arrested at John Wayne Airport when it was discovered that his luggage contained 20 cans of kernel corn except there wasn't any corn - just hits of Orange Sunshine. Thankfully for his goat-stinkin' ass this was before the draconian drug laws passed in the Reagan years - he never would have seen the light of day. As it was he only did 2 years (probably rolled-over) and disappeared from Laguna forever. Good idea!

The claim was made in the early days that the reason these guys were so successful is that they were 'enlightened' and 'had the juice'

Yep - enlightened was my first thought

Crazy ass shit right there...2 years for what a lot of human beings are doing life for.
....'had/got the juice' is a term still used in the joint.

 

[ixnay007]

Hybrids...in S. America...perhaps hhhmmmm. Spanish stuff crossed with Thai??? That would possibly explain some of the similar effects from some types of 'Mexican' as compared to Thai...

One of these days it'll all come crashing in and people will probably poop.

I think most south american strains were brought over by the slaves, and by people who had passed through asia/india/surrounding areas..

It doesn't take that long for an annual to acclimatize, and with a bit of selection, and the large genetic variety in what were open pollinated plants, I'd imagine it wouldn't be hard to have all those strains come from seeds smuggled in..

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Dagga: The History and Ethnographic Setting of Cannabis sativa in Southern Africa

We also know that it spread down the east of Africa with Arab traders. The terms Bangalah and Bhang were names for Bengal and the word bhang, used for the herb, could thus have spread into east Africa centuries ago to refer to its Indian origin. The spread of its use was compounded with more recent Arab trading from Saudi Arabia, and it was almost certainly used in the southern part of the continent in pre-Portugese times, i.e. before A.D. 1500.

What gives me pause on this essay (opinion) is that the author completely blows off the importance of The Silk Route and The Spice Route in the transfer of many plants.

The author completely blows off the importance of the Portugese traders that moved plants all over the world. They were responsible for introducing chili peppers from the New World to China in the 16th Century for example. The chili pepper then moved, as usual, to the surrounding cultures.

Then the author seems to have a couple more gaps in this history - Goa, located on the coast in Southeast India is a major trading point and has been going back to 2000 BCE. Nigeria was trading with India (Kerala & Goa) dating back to this same period, i.e. 4,000 years. Nigeria was the shipping point for much of African slaves shipped to the New World. Nigeria has a long cultural history of cannabis cultivation and use. It remains one of the world's largest producer of cannabis sativa.

Given the historical importance of The Spice Route (specifically) and then consider perhaps that both sides of this business were involved in buying and selling plants, you have several other options to consider.

 

[ixnay007]

Is nigeria where the touareg are located? Lots of interesting connections come from them, for example listen to traditional touareg guitar playing, then orginal blues from the earliest recordings you can find..

There were also a lot of big trading points in what is now afghanistan, and surrounding areas, that being a meeting point between india and china..

 

[ClackamasCootz]

There were also a lot of big trading points in what is now afghanistan, and surrounding areas, that being a meeting point between india and china..

Correct - the Trans Sahara Route

 

[DARC MIND]

I think most south american strains were brought over by the slaves, and by people who had passed through asia/india/surrounding areas

i really kind of think this is false,we forget how dope & wide the trading routes of america was before all the BS..
myans for example used hemp to build one of the biggest brigdes ever built (at that time) & they rose and fell before the scum came across the pond..
http://zzco.org/chris_bennett/split.html
i like to believe the canna heirloom strains preserved in s.america are from some of the best cultivators dating back from the bering land bridge times....
this plant has been close to us alot longer then most like to believe
http://www.forteantimes.com/strangedays/archaeology/1618/ancient_pot.html

 

[MrSterling]

They're not sure about the Bering land bridge anymore. They needed it as a theory when they thought no one but white dudes in frigates could cross the oceans. Now they're quite sure Polynesians make the trip by boat, and DNA research is showing humans who became the native americans arrived in the Americas in three waves of immigration, and interbred with the previous immigrants. I'll try to find the link when I'm on a better platform.

 

[MrSterling]

The Tuareg had the transsaharan route if I'm not mistaken as well, Afghanistan was part of the east-west silk road. Ship trade was an important part as well - from India west to the horn of Africa. So many avenues for trade and movement. We always underestimate how much things moved around. Like that guy from 4th century BC Ireland found preserved in peat. He was wearing hair wax make from oils and bee wax in Spain.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

The Japanese were on the Oregon Coast as early as the 5th Century as well as a group of Buddhist monks from China around 200 AD.

Hard to say......

 

[ClackamasCootz]

The Tuareg had the transsaharan route if I'm not mistaken as well, Afghanistan was part of the east-west silk road. Ship trade was an important part as well - from India west to the horn of Africa. So many avenues for trade and movement. We always underestimate how much things moved around. Like that guy from 4th century BC Ireland found preserved in peat. He was wearing hair wax make from oils and bee wax in Spain

Word!!!

MrSterling - do you have the Netflix streaming service?

CC

 

[Gascanastan]

The Nigerian 'landrace' currently in my line up finishes around 65 days...it purple's up quite a bit as well...the sleepy eye effect also.....leads me to believe that it picked up some indica along the way.

 

[MrSterling]

The Japanese were on the Oregon Coast as early as the 5th Century as well as a group of Buddhist monks from China around 200 AD.

Hard to say......

That's really awesome! I hadn't heard that before.

And yes, CC, I do have Netflix.

 

[DARC MIND]

They're not sure about the Bering land bridge anymore. They needed it as a theory when they thought no one but white dudes in frigates could cross the oceans.

non the less my point was cannabis had been part of american culture before the trade of slave workers for the "savages" who would not participate in the insanity of destroying ones land & natural resources...
DNA does not address if there were any previous failed colonization attempts by other genetic groups, as far as i know, genetic testing can only address the current population ancestral heritage

 

[ClackamasCootz]

MrSterling

"The Story of India" - a 6-part series from the BBC

You'll know after the first 15 minutes why I highly recommend it

 

[TB Gardens]

 

[BlueJayWay]

MrSterling

"The Story of India" - a 6-part series from the BBC

You'll know after the first 15 minutes why I highly recommend it

Adding that to the queu, thanks!

There's one on there about China, and their history of rice cultivation, amazing what they've done....

 

[BlueJayWay]

Mr Blunts! Hope it's turnin' out aaallll good on your end - FYI, the picture in my avatar - Sour Bubble or is it OG ?!?! LOL don't know don't care, she's a mean bitch either way! It's TITS man! as I heard a young lady with greendreamz say to describe her plants hehe

 

[heady blunts]

BJW, welcome to the thread!

call me heady; i'm not much of a mister

 

[warthog]

wasup heady? bout time for an update eh..