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Very nice RJR!
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nicely done indeed RJR, kudos!
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Rolling J Ranch
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I was waiting for someone to notice that!
You know Smooth, I fretted over that exact thing. I had wanted to flush for seven days. In the end I flushed for five. I thought long and hard about holding off the chop for those final two days.
Notice those white pistils are on a heavily foxtailed top. That condition existed on three or four of the tallest tops. My trusty 50 year old Tasco microscope showed me cloudy to amber trichs on every sample taken from multiple sites across the screen. Even the foxtail's leaves showed a majority of cloudy trichs.
Here's another example.
Notice the change in diameter of the flower right at the 6 inch mark on the tape? That part of the bud was under the screen. Even those trichs were cloudy/amber.
What pushed me into chop mode was the discovery of bud rot. I found it on two tops on day three of the flush. I yanked those and lost very little, maybe a couple of grams at the most.
Since those foxtails and the rot seemingly appeared concurrently when I started flushing. I amped up the ventilation and added fans to increase air flow around the plants and decided to flush for two more days for a total of five. The DWC buckets ppm were already reading .02-.04 after three days of soaking in 5.8 water. That's what my water reads out of the tap.
Samples I'd taken a week before I started the flush smoked and tasted just fine after simple air drying. Thus I was more concerned about what I couldn't see regarding rot. By the end of the chop I had found one more little bit of rot in another bud sized equally to those pictured. That bit was completely invisible from outside the bud. I discovered it when I grabbed a fan leaf to pluck and it slid right out. Emergency surgery showed loss from that last bit of rot amounted to almost nothing.
So there ya go. In a 'perfect world' I would have liked to wait a bit longer for those newly sprouted 'tails to finish. In the end since the overwhelming majority was ready based on trich color, the chop decision was made simply because I was more concerned about what I couldn't see.
Rolling J Ranch
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smoooth
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Ahhh that makes more sense. Yeah don't ever want to mess with bud rot. Thankfully I haven't seen any in a couple years
good thing you pulled them down before it got worse.
I have also heard that a little to much N towards the end of flowering can cause some of that fox tailing. Maybe it's just the strain? Either way they look great
Hope to see another grow soon!
good thing you pulled them down before it got worse. I have also heard that a little to much N towards the end of flowering can cause some of that fox tailing. Maybe it's just the strain? Either way they look great
Hope to see another grow soon!
one of the new embellishments to my little grow op i'll be adding soon is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnetic-St...978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4605f79782
you throw this little white stick into the jar with your hot water, koolbloom, and maxi, then just let it run for ten minutes and forget...there is a spinning magnet in the base and the stick you throw in the jar is also a magnet so it stirs it without damaging the glass or your wrists!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnetic-St...978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4605f79782
you throw this little white stick into the jar with your hot water, koolbloom, and maxi, then just let it run for ten minutes and forget...there is a spinning magnet in the base and the stick you throw in the jar is also a magnet so it stirs it without damaging the glass or your wrists!
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...er, ahh, ...you're welcome, ...i guess.
...apparently a compliment coming from someone with no rep is either invisible or irrelevant.
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The 'jar' you use will have to have a perfectly flat bottom i.e. Erlenmeyer flask, for that to work. I use a stir plate on my yeast (I'm a brewer) and it does indeed work great.. I actually thought about using it for this purpose myself, but I'd have to buy a new flask as I don't want to use my yeast flask for anything but yeast... I'll probably look for a 5 liter cylinder for mixing nutrients.. You'll dig it once you get er goin..
mgk
edit: this is what I'll probably get, but I'm gonna try to find one used for 1/2 price or so.. This one is 4 liter which is close to a gallon.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GRIFFEN-BEA...ultDomain_0&hash=item4cea4ac80c#ht_1759wt_837
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UneeK
To get my ppm around 900-1000 I have to use half strength or approximately 3.5g/gallon. What am I doing wrong ? 7g/gal puts me at 2000pm. I'm using tap water that comes out at around 50 ppm.
i was the same when i used to use maxibloom
i would use the small side of the scoop that came in the bag
if i used the 7grams/gallon, it would start to burn my plants
no way id use anything close to 2000ppm, no matter what nutrient it was lol
That is weird, I use it at 7 grams a gallon and I get an EC of 1.4 which is only 700ppm with .5 conversion.
Yuno.Who
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I use 7g/gallon, never checked my ppm or EC as I don't have a meter but I haven't experienced any burning, even when I add LKB, I get no burning.
The only time I experienced burning was the 1st time I tried using powder KoolBloom at the recommended dose...that stuff torched my girls, so now I back off to a 1/4 of what they say to use and everything looks great.
Sloth, That mixer looks awesome man, can't wait to hear you're results with it. I would like to know if it actually works. Mixing nutes is the only thing I actually have to work at, everything else is pretty much set it and forget it.
The only time I experienced burning was the 1st time I tried using powder KoolBloom at the recommended dose...that stuff torched my girls, so now I back off to a 1/4 of what they say to use and everything looks great.
Sloth, That mixer looks awesome man, can't wait to hear you're results with it. I would like to know if it actually works. Mixing nutes is the only thing I actually have to work at, everything else is pretty much set it and forget it.
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Cool. Thanks. How does the conversion work ?
Most meters display a PPM or Parts Per Million reading but this number is just an EC or Electrical Conductivity reading that is then converted to PPM by multiplying the EC by whatever conversion number they are using. The problem is different manufactures use different conversion rates. So if your meter is using the 500 conversion and it reads 1.4EC it will display a PPM of 700.
Yuno.Who
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Same here man, As long as the PH was on point, so were the plants.
farmer jones
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I thought i would give the KISS a try so i bought the maxi bloom. At 7g/gallon in the spring water that i use gives an ec 2.0 or 1000 ppm. First time and so far looks nice.
burns1n209
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my ppms come out to 800 to 900 ppm with 7g maxi. ro water. never had 1 burn. i actually bump mine up to 1000 to 1200 for a couple weeks in the middle of flower and then cut back and add koolbloom towards the end.
