D-Train (white domina x qrazy train)

[Mister_D]

It's not certified organic, but it's just a coriander oil suspension. The myth about it killing beneficial bacteria/fungi is widespread, but simply isn't true. A well respected member here at the mag (dongle69) confirmed it with a microscope, and the company that makes it has also tested it with their bennie product. Smells great, non-toxic, plants love it, cheap, time tested, and most important it works.

 

[Greeco]

Mosquito dunks from what I understand are mainly bacillus thuringiensis israelensis based. A bacillus strain known for attacking larvae. So although it might not be OMRI listed, it's save to use in your reservoir,soil, and coco and won't have any negative effects on your plants. To be honest with you brotha endo mycorrhizae really aren't benificial for our plants unless you are using organic fertilizers that have the wrong forms of P in them. Other then that. They take 6 weeks to finally form symbiotic relationships with your roots. Once these relationships are made most growers are usually in flower and are using a lot more then 30ppms of P at which point they become dormant and cause carbon drain on your plants. They need food . But if you are using organic nutrients and want to make sure your P is the correct form then their good to use. Only Endo though since ecto can't form relationships with cannabis. Oh btw the babies are so cute... Look at their little leaves. Aww

 

[budman678]

I am cooking a completely organic living soil for at least 6 weeks. I will be training these little girls and then transplanting into my super soil so mych is important to me. I will buy some new dunks and top dress my pots and water as normal

Thanks for compliments on my baby girls. They are so cute...I'm a proud papa!

Fungus gnats don't affect the plant right? Just more of a nuisance correct?

 

[silver hawaiian]

It's not certified organic, but it's just a coriander oil suspension. The myth about it killing beneficial bacteria/fungi is widespread, but simply isn't true. A well respected member here at the mag (dongle69) confirmed it with a microscope, and the company that makes it has also tested it with their bennie product. Smells great, non-toxic, plants love it, cheap, time tested, and most important it works.

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I've seen you and lots of others I respect swear by the SM-90 for gnats.. But when I'm looking at the product/description, it seems that it's marketed as a surface tension reducer -- nothing about preventing critters..?

I did the dunks last round too (some top dressed, some in the rez), .. Mixed results. Success, but not total success, which then shortly looks like no success.

Maybe I oughtta just say to hell with it and get some SM90 for the next batch.. When you get to "flush"/end of cycle/whatever, do you continue to use the SM-90 in your rez?

 

[Greeco]

Silver that sucks you got gnates. They can be a pain in the ass to completely wipe out. I would recommend using more the one product since these bastards can become immune to things quickly. Gnatrol is going to be your best bet IMO. Not only does it wipe out the adults, it is a larvaeside as well. Then pick another product of your choice and use it. Take turns using the two products so they don't become immune to anything. Also get those cheap yellow sticky traps and put them near your medium and hang them by the lights. They will take out a lot of adults. They also bread nematodes for attacking them. You can find them at your local hydro shop. They usually come on a sponge. Store them in the fridge before use. While doing this make sure your not overwatering. Let that medium dry out. Fungus gnates don't like dry environments to lay their eggs in.

Some products to use are:azamax,SM90,SNS-203,goGnages,gnatrol and nematodes, and much more. But these are the ones I have used and each one works great. Azamax and gnatrol are my personal favorites. Gl buddy I hope you wipe me out.

 

[silver hawaiian]

Silver that sucks you got gnates. They can be a pain in the ass to completely wipe out. I would recommend using more the one product since these bastards can become immune to things quickly. Gnatrol is going to be your best bet IMO. Not only does it wipe out the adults, it is a larvaeside as well. Then pick another product of your choice and use it. Take turns using the two products so they don't become immune to anything. Also get those cheap yellow sticky traps and put them near your medium and hang them by the lights. They will take out a lot of adults. They also bread nematodes for attacking them. You can find them at your local hydro shop. They usually come on a sponge. Store them in the fridge before use. While doing this make sure your not overwatering. Let that medium dry out. Fungus gnates don't like dry environments to lay their eggs in.

Some products to use are:azamax,SM90,SNS-203,goGnages,gnatrol and nematodes, and much more. But these are the ones I have used and each one works great. Azamax and gnatrol are my personal favorites. Gl buddy I hope you wipe me out.

Good call greecster - .. I'm sort of lucked out in the sense that I'm about to wrap up this run, and they were never more than an unsightly nuisance.. (Though, I've noticed some spider-mite-y looking evidence/stippling on a few very random leaves here and there, but no evidence of SM..?)

I've used Azamax, but I generally don't go past week 3 or 4 with it - I try to limit my sprayage once the buds take shape..

Excellent info on the environmentals for the gnats. My spot has good bugs, though I've not been aware of the benefit for fungus gnats - good spot, again!

I'm going to sort of let things ride out this run (damn near done), but going forward, this'll be a specific attention of mine..

 

[budman678]

so are predatory nematodes the best route? i need something that will be completely organic and no something that just kills all bacteria...i want something to attack the gnats and that gnats only

i feel like a whiner...just toked some critical+...got me good and zooted. super good stuff

 

[Greeco]

so are predatory nematodes the best route? i need something that will be completely organic and no something that just kills all bacteria...i want something to attack the gnats and that gnats only

Gnatrol and azamax are your best bet. Both are OMRI listed!! Oh and btw BT will not effect any of your micro organisms you have colonized in your medium. Nor will it effect any other bugs like lady bugs for example!

Azamax- has azadirachtin in it which makes the bugs restarted,stops them from eating,and shuts down their reproductive system. Azadirachtin is naturally found in neem oil.

Gnatrol- all I know about this product is that it contains BT vI. A bacillus strain that targets gnat and mosquito larvae. BT makes proteins called Delta Endotoxin which reacts with the cell lining of the gut causing the larvae,gnat,or mosquito do die of starvation.

Now that you understand what the products do. I would suggest looking up the life cycle of fungus gnates so you get a better idea of what your dealing with. BT vI can even be sprayed on your leaves for adults. However reapplication will need to take place more rapidly since BT degrades in light. They last a lot longer in water or your medium. I will post resources later to confirm my information. Feel free to ask away if you have further questions. I love helping

 

[killerweed31]

beautifull bro, so green so nice..promise healthy !!

 

[budman678]

more baby pics

more baby pics

more distinct phenos of the d-train

white domina leaning

qrazy train leaning

dna genetics "connie chung" (la confidential x g13)

dinafem "BLUE WIDOW" **very very slow

unhealthy d-train that i will prolly cull soon if i dont perk up

i have the feminized strains with the dna and the dinafem, and i have 8 dtrains in there...i really only need 3-4 dtrains to be ladies....cull the weak and less vigorous, dont waste time and resources

 

[budman678]

group shot!!

group shot!!

sexiest d-train up close

i am going to have to do something for these gnats. i have top dressed with dunks. and will prolly be watering tomorrow...they are really adjusting their new homes and starting to take off. i

i will be dumping my supersoil tomorrow, re mixing and then cooking for another 3-4 weeks. i will top at node#2 after there is about 5-6 true sets of leaves. i will train the two leaders and begin the "mainlining" technique to really focus and distribute the energy evenly...i am going for 8 even full tops on each finishing plant. the bottom will be used as clones to give out to friends....i am hoping to pull around 10-14grams on each cola..donkey dicks...

no larf, no popcorn. pure jar nug. i have never used a completely amended, organic soil..i am very very excited to see how this turns out...one things for certain, i will be puffing on some excellent grass for halloween

 

[silver hawaiian]

budman

When you transplant 'em up to the next pot, you oughtta trim the bottom few sets of leaves, and bury the plant up to the hilt of the stem, to the new growth. All of that stemmage beneath the surface becomes part of your root mass..

 

[budman678]

i will be burying her a little next time i put them in their final pots.

her second nodes is going to be her power node.

i also lollipop them around day 21 of flower. take almost 2/3 from the bottom. encourage single colas instead of larf. so i have have the plant spread out really well, i havent put that part of the puzzle yet but shooting for modified tomato cages. one ring about 16-18 inches from soil...i have four symmetrical even nugs on each side ...six colas will be soft tied on the outside of the cage with two inside. all about even power and even canopy...

i give all the credit in the world to nugbuckets...these are his pics

so top and bend of the stems hard, really bind em up. use the bottom two for clones in you want...

top each branch twice and you will have 8mtotal tops. spread those bitches out and defoliate. the idea is you get an equal energy push to each side. there are no leaders. even canopy. you can supercrop a little if they are big stretchers or one takes off. you get large consistent size nugs. 8,16,32,etc

EDIT: I AM SUPERSTONED, IF this shit dont make sense i totally understand...i will takes pics as i go...

:::leaves thread, reheats chili, chums hard:::

 

[Mister_D]

_D

I've seen you and lots of others I respect swear by the SM-90 for gnats.. But when I'm looking at the product/description, it seems that it's marketed as a surface tension reducer -- nothing about preventing critters..?

I did the dunks last round too (some top dressed, some in the rez), .. Mixed results. Success, but not total success, which then shortly looks like no success.

Maybe I oughtta just say to hell with it and get some SM90 for the next batch.. When you get to "flush"/end of cycle/whatever, do you continue to use the SM-90 in your rez?

SM-90 is labeled as a "wetting agent" simply due to labeling restrictions. It was originally developed for spider mites, but due to it's mode of action it works on many pests. It is also encourages root growth, and helps to protect against root rot.

Gnatrol is the same thing as mosquito dunks. Better chance of it being fresher/more active, but it's the same strain of bacteria in both.

 

[budman678]

super soil

super soil

its been sitting around in cans for 3 weeks. i poured it out, remixed and canned again. prolly going to water with a couple gallons of an ACT with Roots oregonism powder, ewc and molasses..

check coop

 

[budman678]

veggies/herbs/potatoes

urban farming

we eat fresh produce all summer. we have five (4x8)ft raised beds... and some other here and there...

tomatoes are nutzo

 

[heady blunts]

beautiful veggie gardens!

loving the polyculture.

 

[budman678]

thanks. the gardens are awesome. we prepare soil all year...those beds have been tended to for about 10yrs now. its some great soil. we def make the most of our space. and every year we add more and have more ideas. we are saving up to move out to the country but until then we make due with our space.

we have big plans for the next house. anyways, the seeds have been up for about 14-16 days....starting to take off.

 

[autoflowercup]

i rolled a joint of the chemdog x c99 sweet tarts pheno...smoked it at a wedding last night with like 12 heads. it got almost everyone blitzed out and most peeps only got to hit it 1-2 good times...

wow, organic cannabis gets people GEEKED...especially folks that dont smoke the good stuff regularly....i mean, i believe we often forget that as growers, we have a MUCH higher tolerance...

anyways, still little baby seedlings...all lookin great. i will take a few pics later for the thread...show you what 3-4 days from last pics looks like

Where did you get this strain? sounds Awesome!!!

 

[budman678]

chemdog x c99 was nabbed off the server fund last year...mooch775 i believe was the breeder. all different phenos but the sweet tarts in particular was a keeper...so delicious