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Is Your Cellphone Under Surveillance?

that's how we located bin laden. tracking his couriers cellphone ;)

I heard that and the story where the CIA planted the doctor in pakistan and was able to get a DNA sample from the courier because he went in for a vaccination, they knew the courier was there and that was good enough to raid. I'm sure it suprised the shit out of bin laden, but he should have known not to get too comfortable and kept moving and changing shit up, he was the most wanted, plus you gotta kinda have a hunch when you have a guy in America in charge named "Obama" and your name is "Osama" there is bound to be some "BS" goin down in the next few years lolol don't get comfortable if you are one of these people, you can't stop moving until you are somewhere so obscure that nobody would know. He trusted the wrong people for too long that was all...


pre paid phones people, the older and more hood like the mexican el pre paido's will do..I laugh at all these "smart phones"...please keep my phone dumb I just need it to make calls and not really know what else to do..thank you


Also delete your texts, recent calls often. If you are really noid and you get stopped, you should have a key password lock on your phone to access it. The officers will only look at what they can get you keep in mind. If your extra extra noid, drop the phone into a cup of water you have in your cup holder at all times, phone fried, life possibly saved.
 

gaiusmarius

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funny how many people are not aware of the emergency battery that new phones have. you can take out the main battery all you want, there is still the back up there which can allow them to remote access your phone. you can actually look up the code to dial to show you the power reserves in the reserve battery. you are best off leaving your phone at home.
 

gingerale

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An alien from the future just popped in and told me that within two years there will be a smart phone introduced which will revolutionize the world. It will be marketed as a secure phone, meaning security is top priority and 100% in the owner's control. The entire operating system and hardware is designed from the bottom up to be secure, encrypted, and trustworthy. A phone that's on your side, not your enemy's.......what a novel concept.
 

m314

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If you are really noid and you get stopped, you should have a key password lock on your phone to access it. The officers will only look at what they can get you keep in mind. If your extra extra noid, drop the phone into a cup of water you have in your cup holder at all times, phone fried, life possibly saved.

A password won't help if they want to see what's on your phone. When I was looking for a job in California, I did a phone interview with a company who's main product was a device that plugs into a phone (IOS, Android, and Windows Mobile / Windows Phone). In a few minutes, all the data stored on the phone is copied off to an external flash drive. Password or no password. Their main customers were law enforcement and military. I said "no thanks" to a follow up interview once they told me about that.

I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be confident that a cup of water would destroy the stored data on your phone.
 

trichrider

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...sim card? isn't that like a storage device? i would be wary of any new phone regardless its sophistication.

...and i foil RNM with REM sleep. I shit you not!
 

Stoner4Life

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think they're really snooping your whereabouts by tracking your phone? send it for a ride. charge it up, leave it on, pack it up and ship it to a friend then have them ship it back a few days later.

it's a win-win for you. first it will confuse your antagonists, secondly it will allow you to live w/o an electronic tether even for a short while.

get a disposable to use while yours tours parts of the country you could only dream to visit.......

 

the gnome

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hate to say it buts the technology to monitor your cell phone remotely has been available to local police depts and lay users for sometime now.
http://pickyguide.com/electronics/cell_phone_scanners_guide.html

I read a few months ago that police have whats called
a spider net?? or something like that.
with no warrant necessary they can tap into any cell and listen to everything said and they can even access any info stored in the phone.
any phone at all and do it while you drive down the road to pick up a loaf of bread or go rob the bank with you budz.

they carry it in the car and it is basicly a portable cell phone tower that catches and overrides any signal any phone from the real one in its range of operation, it has a 1/4-1/2 mile coverage i think.

Ok, i did some searching and this is what I got.
this is from a police website called police one
here is the search page ,
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7n2_EgdQpncAHS5XNyoA?p=police%2C%20portable%20tower%20%20cell%20phone%20system&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701
at the top look for the police one website titled:
Really portable cellular service - Police Officers, Cops ...
in this article it is pushing this as a great tool for cops who have spotty signal in thier area but as acting like a cell tower it can also capture *other signals* mmmmm like you cell phone?

this what its really more about in this article
in the UK article and its use as a counter surrvielance tool.
there are several types of these things and costs range from $2400 for the local barney fife's up into the $200,000 plus dollar range for the big dogs, DEA FBI and CIA-NSA
the article i read a while back and can't find now,
said its definitely used to let LEO hack into other cell phones and eavesdrop.
no warrant needed because like radio waves it public accessable.
not sure if they can intentionaly target a certain phone but the capability to do it it at their finger tips and I'm sure the official story would run like this... police scanning accidently caught your signal while you were involved in illicit activity...
blah blah blah...

here's the article from the policeone site
Most of us have ceased to awe over the miracle of the cell phone. Within one generation, we’ve gone from bricks, bag phones, and car-mounted cellular phones to devices smaller than a pack of cards with the computing power of a desktop machine of yesterday. Many people have ditched their hardwired phone service in favor of a cell phone, but what happens when the cell tower loses power, is underwater, or just stops working? That’s inconvenient for most people, but it can be life and death in public safety.

AT&T’s Remote Mobility Zone
There are a couple of solutions to have a backup plan when regular cell service goes out or even when you need to bring service to an area that has a poor or nonexistent signal. First, the big guns: AT&T’s Remote Mobility Zone (ARMZ) can replace or substitute for a cell tower in any locale where AT&T has some licensed spectrum. If there’s no AT&T service in your county, chances are this isn’t an option for you. The hardware is dependent on having an AT&T-licensed wireless channel to use.

An ARMZ unit can be installed at a fixed location, mounted on top of a command vehicle, or shipped to where it’s needed in two or four hardened suitcases. There are two models: one that communicates with an overhead satellite, and one that connects to a hardwired local area network (LAN). In the case of the satellite, the system can use an AT&T bird or one you already have access to.

ARMZ can be set up by non-technical people in a few minutes. Depending on terrain and location of the transceiver, it will provide cell phone service for a radius of about half a mile. It will support 7 to 14 full rate or 14 to 28 half rate concurrent calls, the difference being whether you configure the system with one or two radios,. The distinction between full rate and half rate is one of clarity and sound quality; half rate also uses less power from the handset.

If you need cell service in an area that isn’t served by a cell tower, but has broadband internet access, the LAN option may be a good one for you. In this configuration, the “backhaul” (the data traffic between the cell tower and the hardwired network) goes over your internet connection. Bandwidth requirements aren’t especially high, with 256 Kbps for a single radio and 384 Kbps for a double radio unit. Pricing is set at $2,500 if you “bring your own” satellite or LAN service, and $2,700 when you use AT&T’s satellite.
Satellite time, of course, will be extra.


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...er cell phone system&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701

you can scroll down that page and see its already being use in the UK
Britain’s largest police force has been using covert surveillance technology that can masquerade as a mobile phone network to intercept communications and unique IDs from phones or even transmit a signal to shut off phones remotely, according to the Guardian.

The system, made by Datong in the United Kingdom, was purchased by the London Metropolitan police, which paid $230,000 to Datong for “ICT hardware” in 2008 and 2009.

The portable device, which is the size of a suitcase, pretends to be a legitimate cell phone tower that emits a signal to dupe thousands of mobile phones in a targeted area. Authorities can then intercept SMS messages, phone calls and phone data, such as unique IMSI and IMEI identity codes that allow authorities to track phone users’ movements in real-time, without having to request location data from a mobile phone carrier.

In the case of intercepted communications, it is not clear whether the network works as a blackhole where intercepted messages go to die, or whether it works as a proper man-in-the-middle attack, by which the fake tower forwards the data to a real tower to provide uninterrupted service for the user.

In addition to intercepting calls and messages, the system can be used to effectively cut off phone communication, such as in a war zone where phones might be used as a trigger for an explosive device, or for crowd control during demonstrations and riots where participants use phones to organize.

The Met police would not provide details to the Guardian about where or when its technology had been used.

According to the company’s web site, Datong “develops intelligence solutions for international military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies for use in all operating environments,” and sells its products in the U.S. as well.

Between 2004 and 2009, Datong won over $1.6 million in contracts with the U.S. Secret Service, Special Operations Command, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other agencies. In February 2010, the company won a $1.2 million contract to supply tracking and location technology to the U.S. defense industry. It also sells technology to regimes in the Middle East.

A spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service verified to CNET that the agency has done business with Datong, but would not say what sort of technology it bought from the company.

The FBI is known to use a similar technology called Triggerfish, which also pretends to be a legitimate cell tower base station to trick mobile phones into connecting to it. The Triggerfish system, however, collects only location and other identifying information, and does not intercept phone calls, text messages, and other data.

Last year at the DefCon hacker conference in Las Vegas, security researcher Chris Paget demonstrated a low-cost, home-brewed device that mimics the IMSI catchers that U.S. law enforcement agencies use.

The device spoofs a legitimate GSM tower and emits a signal that’s stronger than legitimate towers in the area to entice cell phones to route their outbound calls through the spoofed tower, allowing an attacker to intercept and record calls before they’re routed on their proper way through voice-over-IP.

Photo: zoonabar / Flickr
 
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RetroGrow

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I have a police scanner, and can listen to cell phone calls all day long. The first day I had it, I heard conversations about drug deals, gambling, and prostitution. One dude was betting thousands on a dozen or so NBA games. If you're in a city, you can listen to drug deals all day long. Peope just "forget" that anyone can listen to your cell phone calls.
Personally I hate them, and own a jammer to shut down those obnoxious calls others are making within earshot.
 

Elsweeto

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Your phone remembers numbers when you drop the battery because it has backup power, I don't know If it's enough to pick up but it's there
 

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