Girl Scout Cookies

[Yes4Prop215]

shiet man those are never fun..i got them from fox farms ocean forest last year, they barely do shit but they get stuck in your colas and gotta pick them off one by one with tweezers... at my outdoor spot i can heat treat all my bags but my indoors in the urban jungle its impossible...

my current run with royal gold tupur has had zero gnats...and friends grow with same medium is the same. maybe they fixed something..

time to top dress rockwool cubes? lol

 

[Highersolutions]

^Nematodes kick gnat ass. Bitch be gone!

 

[Z-ro]

all those pics are the same strain..

thats what i thought as well when i saw these pics on the other site and im no cookie expert


soil and coco are yielding the same for me but i dont run a sealed room, however to achieve those results i have to use twice as much soil per tray than i would coco, and coco takes far more nutrient, its a give and take thing. coco for production, soil for heads.

 

[Mr Celsius]

I used royal gold basement mix for about a year. It seemed good even had some friends jump aboard and start using that mix. ALSO came packed with the worst fungus gnats & or fruit flys this side of the mississippi. Not sure if it's the store these bags came from or their origin. Either way with those flys the CONS really outweighed to PROS. With my experience their coco sucks

Royal Gold is located in Humboldt and that area is endemic to fungus gnats and root aphids. Its always a possibility that contaminates will come along with your soil.

As for the company, extremely nice people. If you call they will answer any specific questions you have and if you ask how they run their medium and nutrients they are glad to answer.

IMHO basement mix is meant for outdoors and tupur is the indoor version. I don't like a medium that I only have to water once a week because it wont dry out. Roots can't actually uptake water unless the water vaporizes (why aeration is so important). So how are you suppose to increase the turgor pressure of your plant to transport nutrients in a quick manner if the plant can't uptake the water it needs? With all that said, Basement mix outdoors seems to dry out quicker because of the heat of the sun and I like it to start plants before they go in holes.

 

[NorCal]

Yeah amended coco is the way to go. I did it years ago in a closet and it was some of the dankest bud I've had to date. In soil my roots are never as fluffy and white as i get in coco. The roots almost seem to move slower in soil.

I Never went back becuase I always did recirculating from them on. Now that I'm back doing doing drain To waste I'm just waiting on my caps bennies and it's gonna be on. I'm gonna use canna so not gonna be fully organic, but the taste should be there.

 

[loyalty7]

I've tried roots organic coco mix I hated it, Went straight back to 100% coco, Maybe i didnt have the patience, But i believe the ph start to battle with each other, and if you allow coco dry too much salts (ppm) go nuts, That was my experience...I know a cpl ppl that are using the manna mix and swear By it. I'm biased to coco with the yields i have gotten. If i want the flavor i am really liking the Dr. Earth home grown mix, Very different then anything i've used.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

I don't like a medium that I only have to water once a week because it wont dry out. Roots can't actually uptake water unless the water vaporizes (why aeration is so important). So how are you suppose to increase the turgor pressure of your plant to transport nutrients in a quick manner if the plant can't uptake the water it needs?

Yeah amended coco is the way to go. I did it years ago in a closet and it was some of the dankest bud I've had to date. In soil my roots are never as fluffy and white as i get in coco. The roots almost seem to move slower in soil.
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yea this is one the main reasons im moving away from soil....stays soggy, gotta wait 2-3 days between waterings so they get extra days of sitting in their salt buildup...in coco if you see something bad they can flush and restart new nutes within half the time frame.....side by side tests show coco plants always had bigger, whiter roots in the coco based mediums....

all the homies are doing different things on their next runs with cookies...gonna be learning a lot over the next few months what she likes best...

 

[skull and roses]

I've been in straight coco for a while now, In my next run I'm going with beds and the chow mix. Probably 60% hydroton and 40% coco with full irrigation. Similar to jack. This will be 6k and one whole side with cookies, should be fun. I'm really thinking the chow is gonna be epic. I also got a free trial of heavy 16 for it too. Right now I'm 3 weeks in on all coco with smart pots. I just switched to heavy 16 after doing gh lucas with a touch of additives.

 

[NorCal]

Been eyeing that heavy 16 myself. Might do a side by side soon here...been eying that chow mix also but prob gonna have to wait until my next run to do it.

 

[UnknownProphet]

Reading up in the heavy 16 I see it has Molybdenum in the Veg A. That alone gets my punan moist. I'm all about those micro nutrients.

But after further research I'm noticing elements themselves can be purchased at relatively inexpensive prices, but making them into a form that can be fed to my plant is what I pay for I guess.

Sorry to rant off subject; I feel like Joe Rogan talking about Microphones, I know it works, but I don't know how to make it or why exactly it works.

I may take some pics before lights on to show my cookie process...hope all are enjoying their day, I know I sure the fuck am.

 

[LumpStatus]

I ran chow mix for a while and found straight coco to be the same result. I reuse my coco 5 times and when it comes time to get rid of it, it is a hell of a lot lighter to carry out without the hydroton in it! Nothing wrong with the chow but no benefits i can see, just more work. The tupur is working well but im getting somewhat less yield with slightly increased bud quality. I have been testing cannas boost and find my buds to be more dense and increased smell. In fact I think boost makes the buds taste more similar to soil grown organics. Imo the difference between "organic" and "chem" grows is due to more micro nutrients possibly being available to the soil grown bud, and not in the chem bottle. I personally believe if you dont overfeed your plants and you use additives that give you more of what soil is providing then you cant tell between chem and organic. Imo in a properly fed chem plant you cannot taste chems at all but it may taste different due to lack of certain elements that soil grown buds may have available to them. But if we can provide whatever were missing in our chem setups i think the quality would be the same. This is why i think the best way to grow is with a combo of chems and organics, the best of both worlds, but do not over feed your plants!

Go ahead, you can call me crazy!

 

[UnknownProphet]

Lump you so...

..crazy.

Sorry I just had to use that .gif, you're actully quite a sane fellow.

 

[skull and roses]

I ran chow mix for a while and found straight coco to be the same result. I reuse my coco 5 times and when it comes time to get rid of it, it is a hell of a lot lighter to carry out without the hydroton in it! Nothing wrong with the chow but no benefits i can see, just more work. The tupur is working well but im getting somewhat less yield with slightly increased bud quality. I have been testing cannas boost and find my buds to be more dense and increased smell. In fact I think boost makes the buds taste more similar to soil grown organics. Imo the difference between "organic" and "chem" grows is due to more micro nutrients possibly being available to the soil grown bud, and not in the chem bottle. I personally believe if you dont overfeed your plants and you use additives that give you more of what soil is providing then you cant tell between chem and organic. Imo in a properly fed chem plant you cannot taste chems at all but it may taste different due to lack of certain elements that soil grown buds may have available to them. But if we can provide whatever were missing in our chem setups i think the quality would be the same. This is why i think the best way to grow is with a combo of chems and organics, the best of both worlds, but do not over feed your plants!

Go ahead, you can call me crazy!

I totally agree with your organic chem example. As far as the chow did u water it more? From what I've seen people are yielding more than all coco due to more feedings oxygen etc..

 

[LumpStatus]

I definatley watered more because the medium dries faster but not more than once per day which i know isnt the norm for typical hydro grows. So that may be the reason i saw no difference. I hand water daily in my setup. No more reservoirs for me! I mix fresh nutes daily and hand water as needed. More work for sure but healthiest plants ive ever grown. Its not for everyone but it is working great for me...

LOL @ UP! Thats some nasty shit!

 

[skull and roses]

I do the same right now too hand water and fresh nutes

 

[guest8905]

got a cookie or two rolling them up to butte county to be with the nor eastern folks, hope you guys like her!

and I know she is around up there already, but im passin her on with a MAKE SURE YOU PASS THIS OUT FOR FREE attachment, so my fellow heads can enjoy her as well

Raspect

 

[NorCal]

Oh man that gif is whorrible! Yeah with chow mix you gotta water about 3x daily if not I don't think the results would be that much better than coco....,

 

[Norkali]

yea this is one the main reasons im moving away from soil....stays soggy, gotta wait 2-3 days between waterings so they get extra days of sitting in their salt buildup...in coco if you see something bad they can flush and restart new nutes within half the time frame.....side by side tests show coco plants always had bigger, whiter roots in the coco based mediums....

all the homies are doing different things on their next runs with cookies...gonna be learning a lot over the next few months what she likes best...

Solid info right there. Makes me consider moving to a coco based grow style...that sounds nice.

Keep us posted on how the Cookies react to the different medium balances and nute combos...

 

[Mr Celsius]

I've been in straight coco for a while now, In my next run I'm going with beds and the chow mix. Probably 60% hydroton and 40% coco with full irrigation. Similar to jack. This will be 6k and one whole side with cookies, should be fun. I'm really thinking the chow is gonna be epic. I also got a free trial of heavy 16 for it too. Right now I'm 3 weeks in on all coco with smart pots. I just switched to heavy 16 after doing gh lucas with a touch of additives.

I'm running 3 gal smart pots with straight canna coco at the moment but, like you, jackmayoff & Lump have inspired me to try a straight coco bed. I have a bunch of root cloth (same thing smart pots are made out of) sitting around and gonna bust the sowing machine out and make a nice 4'x8' bed liner for $0.

I agree with Lump on the hydroton. What is it actually providing? Better aeration? no. Better water retention? no. Better CEC (cation exchange capacity)? no. Coco is superior in all of these regards, so why fuck around with the little balls that you will be finding in your grow room for the next 499582374 years? You have to wash hydroton, just like you have to wash coco and hydroton costs more for volume.... my

 

[whadeezlrg]

I've been adding ewc and alaskan forest hummus to straight coco for the last year and a half or so, definitely keeps em happier throughout their growth cycle but go easy with it...too much will turn your coco into a more soil like mix and will get soggy and retain water more so than air thus rendering the coco ineffective as coco as far as it's ability to hold air.