possible to find a good commercial strain in cali-conn. or DNA's lineups?

[banana buds]

So I've decided to go on a bean popping mission - i want to germ 50-100 of a single thing in the search for a great cut to monocrop in my shop. I've got DNA Genetics and Cali Connections seeds available locally, as well as "Sin City Seeds" and TGA subcool gear.

I'm not intimately familiar with their lineups and while I've been reading up on the stuff I figure maybe starting a thread asking this direct question will get better results.

Is there something that y'all would say is worth popping 100 of, with the following goals:
-no hermie-prone stuff
-no OGs (too much of it in my area)
-no more than 9 weeks of flower, preferably more like 8
-yield would be nice, but balanced against good quality.

If I can't find anything suitable, my other choices were stuff like critical mass or ak-47, so that is the measuring stick here. I just am not sure what the word is on these locally available breeders' reps currently, and whether I'm just better off ordering something from the boo or the bay...

 

[banana buds]

and since i've noticed people differ in their definitions on these things, when i say commercial i mean 12kW of flower. not big to a lot of people, but it's my day job and so this is a huge decision for me.

 

[bobman]

good question. i think you are better off with one of theirs than crital or ak47. i messed around with ak 30 seeds and it just does not cut it. i am kind of in the same boat. looking at a lot of different stuff.

 

[banana buds]

good question. i think you are better off with one of theirs than crital or ak47. i messed around with ak 30 seeds and it just does not cut it. i am kind of in the same boat. looking at a lot of different stuff.

care to elaborate on why? and what were your issues with ak-30? never seen thatone around...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

never enough OG!!

i would check out cali conns chem4 x OG....

 

[bobman]

no i went through 30 ak 47 seeds. just nothing special cant compete. i just believe a lot of original parents have been lost from those 90 strains. my list includes dna and cali but also schnazz from chimera, some bohdi seeds along with many others. its hard to cut through the hype but i think newer stuff with fresh parents are the way. just my 2 cents

 

[Ganja Maker]

I think he meant 30 seeds of AK-47 But yeah, I was also wondering what he didn't like about the AK. I always hear good things about it.

 

[banana buds]

never enough OG!!

i would check out cali conns chem4 x OG....

i was hoping you wouldn't say that... already know some folks near me working on finding a pheno to blow out.

the thing with og - i am 99% inexperienced with it. not only that, it is getting to the point where 2/3 of the stuff around here right now is either being sold as OG or an OG cross - i'm trying to get away from that noise. on top of that, i've got some reserva privada og 18 flowering right now, and am very unimpressed with the cut that i was gifted.

overall i've just gotten really turned off on picking up clones. i don't know anyone cool that will share, and the stuff that can be had on the open market is of dubious origins. i recently trashed a cut from progressive that they were selling as rene, and then months later admitted it was not that at all.

i suppose this is also just a product of the fact that i don't *know people*, so of course i'm not privvy to the real good cuts that some folks in the know might have.

 

[irobot sd]

I'm confused with why you are trying to run dna/cali connect then turn around and say you're not interested with an og. Seems like BOTH of these are clearly og kush dom strains. Have you not watched their videos? They even say that they're more about quality then quantity in dna vidz. DNA uses their beloved og#18 for almost all their crosses. Cali connect seems to favor in og kush crosses hence the name. If all you know of thier rep is what you've "read" you may be buying into their marketing/advertising. I'm pretty sure there is a sister seed comp to IC and they have many strains that are 8 week or even less... Or buy 100 clones

 

[banana buds]

no i went through 30 ak 47 seeds. just nothing special cant compete. i just believe a lot of original parents have been lost from those 90 strains. my list includes dna and cali but also schnazz from chimera, some bohdi seeds along with many others. its hard to cut through the hype but i think newer stuff with fresh parents are the way. just my 2 cents

this rings with something another person was telling me recently about that - they were saying that the rumor was SS didn't keep good care of parent stock so that the gear available now wasn't really representative of the stuff that earned ak-47 its rep back in the past.

problem is, everyone has something to say about everything. i can find raving praises or mud slinging for every strain from every breeder for the most part. real hard trying to sort out the truth, and when this is a decision that has a huge bearing on my livelihood it becomes even harder to feel real solid on any choice.

 

[oceangrownkush]

If you can take the time to hunt for phenos I'm sure you can find an OG which trumps all the local garbage... Around my way there's tons of what people call OG which might actually be OG but isn't very high quality. There will always be a niche for truly spectacularly grown herb, especially OG's.. If you're adamant about NOT growing an OG I guess my recommendations would be amongst these;

HERIJUANA - S@NNI3
Mosca Seeds - OTM or any of the OTM crosses
Alphakronik - Alpha Dawg, Snowdawg
Top Dawg - Tres Dawg, Star Dawg
Tom Hill - X18
BOG - Sour Bubble

Take into consideration that I've only grown a handful of genetics, none which are these. These are just the selections that I've been salivating over for the past 4-5 years of lurking which I fully intend to grow once I'm up and running indoors again. I didn't notice til re-reading that you wanted something which flowers fast hence the X18 and Sour Bubble being at the bottom. I'm willing to bet that an X18 x SB cross (or vice versa) would be absolutely delicious and fit your needs perfectly, not to mention that the number of resulting seeds would give you PLENTY of genetic material to search through for your perfect pheno, also goes without saying the f2's would be extravagant as fuck. Both of them would seem to be on the less vigorous side of things so the cross would most likely give them some much needed vigor.... Again take it all with a grain of salt, I'm just a long time lurker with way too many ideas and much too much time on his hands. Peace.

-OGK

 

[banana buds]

I'm confused with why you are trying to run dna/cali connect then turn around and say you're not interested with an og. Seems like BOTH of these are clearly og kush dom strains. Have you not watched their videos? They even say that they're more about quality then quantity in dna vidz. DNA uses their beloved og#18 for almost all their crosses. Cali connect seems to favor in og kush crosses hence the name. If all you know of thier rep is what you've "read" you may be buying into their marketing/advertising. I'm pretty sure there is a sister seed comp to IC and they have many strains that are 8 week or even less... Or buy 100 clones

i have been trying to limit my research to things not coming from the people trying to sell the seeds, so for better or worse no i have not watched their videos.

i'm not averse to ordering seeds, the reason for this thread was to get opinions on whether the options available to me locally (as in i can walk to a store and get this gear right now) would be worth it for what i am trying to accomplish. i know we have a great thing with the boo and bay, it's just obviously much more involved for me to ship seeds in from a galaxy far far away and runs the risk of losing a lot of my hard earned money if something goes wrong. not to mention it is 100% legal for me to walk to a store and get local gear which is nice in its own right. but this is all worthless if the genetics are not up to my task.

 

[bobman]

its not a rumor he lost it. and i think a lot of breeders lost parent stock when adam got tough and started busting seed makers. i also think guys like simon, although a super nice guy caters to europe and really does not understand the usa market right now. chimera is probably the only breeder i have never heard a bad word about.

 

[Tony Sativa]

I've had good luck with a few Dna and Tga strains in the past but if your looking for something less grown in your area how about one of Mr Nice's NL crosses or Sogouda or Bogglegum they all yield and taste great. If you have to go with one of the one's you listed then Agent Orange,3-D,Vortex from tga or Chocalope,Martin's mean green from dna

 

[GET MO]

cali connection chem valley kush, or chem d X sfv og. I found multiple keepers, one was a mega yielding chem pheno with a hint of vanilla to it, dope ass plants, easy to grow, no hermis, and some real original phenos, not all a bunch of og or chem replicas.

 

[maryjaneismyfre]

If you are going to grow out a whole lot, I reckon chocolope.. Its my favorite smoke. Find a pheno that that the full sweet Chocolate Thai sour fruity bouquet, with a shorter flowering time. There are different flavor pheno's and flowering time pheno's.
Otherwise try one of the 2 cheese crosses, LA and Kush. I haven't grown either but have grown exodus and LA and reckon the combo will be an absolute commercial winner..
My 2 cents..

 

[growhi]

yes you can i think fundamentally you have to know your market and know what works in your country/town/city/neighbour hood ,

and then after that its simply down to your seed numbers and skill of growing , you have to realise each seed is an individual and you have to be willing to put the time and effort in to get to know your plants and test them thoroughly , the best from that sort of population (100 plus) should be something very nice!

a simple way would be to simply select for smell and bag appeal first ............... because lets face it if it doesn't smell nice and look good your gunna have trouble , then the ones that make it through that round , finaly test the high and taste

this would speed things up a bit than having to keep and smoke test 100 plus plants lol

good luck

 

[Hold Your Fire]

More mention of Chocolope!!!

Since smoking this strain not long ago, it has shot to near the top of my to do list.

I love that smoke!


Maybe it's because I grow indy doms, 50/50 hybrids, so my sativa experience is limited to, well, Chocolope.

 

[banana buds]

yes you can i think fundamentally you have to know your market and know what works in your country/town/city/neighbour hood ,

and then after that its simply down to your seed numbers and skill of growing , you have to realise each seed is an individual and you have to be willing to put the time and effort in to get to know your plants and test them thoroughly , the best from that sort of population (100 plus) should be something very nice!

a simple way would be to simply select for smell and bag appeal first ............... because lets face it if it doesn't smell nice and look good your gunna have trouble , then the ones that make it through that round , finaly test the high and taste

this would speed things up a bit than having to keep and smoke test 100 plus plants lol

good luck

precisely my plan. sex them sometime during my june-august cycle just to cull males, select for bag appeal during my august-october cycle, and then do the final selection for all the finer points an yield during my october-december cycle.

assuming i find something i'm really stoked with, i'd be able to monocrop that to ring in the new year!

and yeah i know what you mean about the first bit, and i know that is very important, but i also want to be very sure of the stock i am starting with.

although part of me wants to say fuck it and get the most wildly variable thing like some random pollen chucker's F2s or some nirvana gear. if the price is right i could pop 250 of something and the variation might work in my favor.

 

[greenpinky]

250 seeds? Yoou can plant almost anything and find a keeper or two... y not go for the variety and pick up different packs. Then u will have it all good smoke and something no one has