Most "Sativa" of hybrid strains?

[de145]

I really like Sativas for their effect (not to mention tastes) but they are tricky to grow indoors in non HID lighting and yield isn't great.

I'm doing it now but it's a struggle and I can't change to HID right now so I'm looking for the next best thing in a hybrid that will work for my conditions but give those great sativa highs.

Any suggestions?

 

[chefboy6969]

Jack Herrer, SAGE, F-13, C-99, Sour Diesel, Kali Mist, Super Silver Haze, La Nina, Bangi Haze,Panama, NepJam, just to name a few...good luck in your searches

peace
Chefboy

 

[joejusttyped]

SSSDH .

 

[WelderDan]

C99. Has that electric buzz, shorter structure, easy to grow and best of all, 7-8 week flower period. Most of the rest are pretty much all long flowering, tall lanky plants that would need major height control. Probably would still need some LST to control height, but it fits your bill nicely.

 

[humble1]

You didn't specify what kind of lighting you have. Is there any way for you to up the light saturation without adding HID? IE.... more fluoros, better fluoros, or LED etc...

 

[titoon29]

Doh !

Sativas are not more tricky to grow under non HID than HID, I've seen superb results in various Neons setup with 12+ weekers, stretch is much more manageable, or scrog for the stretchy ones ..

Yield can be as much or even more rewarding as indicas, I personally never manage to pull out anything heavy from indicas hybrids.

I do agree with chefboy, I would greatly recommend you to have a look at Ace Seeds (https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65554)
They carry outstanding genetics from Landraces, if you truely look for pure sativas high that's one of your best chance.

 

[de145]

You didn't specify what kind of lighting you have. Is there any way for you to up the light saturation without adding HID? IE.... more fluoros, better fluoros, or LED etc...

Heat is already an issue with the CFL's I'm using as summer approaches. I just switched over from 10 42watt to 10 23 watt and it's still too hot unfortunately so I'm experimenting but the sativas really don't respond well to anything less than the full 42watters.

I can do any sativa in winter under CFL's in my situation because I can bombard them with lights and still not go over temp but outside of the coldest 4 months of winter it's a no go.

Ultimately I'm going to get whatever the state of the art in LED's is when I have the money but it won't happen for a while.

 

[de145]

Doh !

Sativas are not more tricky to grow under non HID than HID, I've seen superb results in various Neons setup with 12+ weekers, stretch is much more manageable, or scrog for the stretchy ones ..

Yield can be as much or even more rewarding as indicas, I personally never manage to pull out anything heavy from indicas hybrids.

I do agree with chefboy, I would greatly recommend you to have a look at Ace Seeds (https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65554)
They carry outstanding genetics from Landraces, if you truely look for pure sativas high that's one of your best chance.

Well I guess we'll have to disagree that they are just as easy to grow under non HID lighting. I have personal experience growing landrace sativas, that's what I've been growing all winter. Even "jungle" wild ones that were super stretchy. The issue is yield more than anything when I have to cut the lighting.

Definitely interested in Ace seeds, the landrace sativas I grew were pretty raw, just collected seeds I guess, ACE seems to have done some selection and created their own seeds from the best candidates so sounds less hit and miss. That's a project for next winter when I can go full lighting again though.

 

[de145]

Thanks guys!

 

[igrowone]

interested in your cfl/sativa experience, not many do this
i had wondered if sativa's might respond better to the 5000+ kelvin temps, even in flower

 

[JazzMatazz]

I second C99 and Banghi Hazi.

Both grow relatively stout, but have a nice high.
Just LST or break em, if your using CFL.

 

[yesum]

I grew Panama Red from ACE under LED. It did not get over 18 inches at harvest and I vegged 7 weeks. Really good no anxiety buzz, have heard some bad of c99 on that.

LED will give a short plant btw. 12 to 15 weeks for the different phenos of Panama to mature. Cfl will work, you just have to have the lights an inch or 2 at the most off the plant. Reflectors will double the light or close. Hanging them vertical in between plants circled is about the best.

 

[komrade komura]

Second the nomination of C-99. Been growing it the last few months and the pineapple heavy phenom is just incredible. Very Strong, Sativa soaring high, No/Low smell during grow cycle, excellent taste. Short grow time. 54 days for as advertised. 60 days eliminates the racy effect.

Super Silver Haze and Neville's Haze definitely get a mention...if ya got the time.

 

[de145]

interested in your cfl/sativa experience, not many do this
i had wondered if sativa's might respond better to the 5000+ kelvin temps, even in flower

My experience ranges from utter disaster the first time to progressively better and better. I summarized the techniques I use now after a lot of experimenting in this post here:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5092834&postcount=278

I haven't experimented with more daylight leaning bulbs but I have been considering it just the last few days from some other info I ran into regarding terpenes.

 

[Aerosol]

Kali Mist and C-99 have given me good results indoors.

 

[igrowone]

My experience ranges from utter disaster the first time to progressively better and better. I summarized the techniques I use now after a lot of experimenting in this post here:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5092834&postcount=278

I haven't experimented with more daylight leaning bulbs but I have been considering it just the last few days from some other info I ran into regarding terpenes.

found the 12/1 lighting to be interesting, haven't tried pure sativa's yet, have to remember that when i try

 

[m314]

I'll vote for C99 too. I grew out a couple packs of Gypsy's C99 last year, and 4 out of the 9 females had absolute top quality sativa highs. I'm getting ready to start a new grow with clones of a short flowering pineapple pheno, the one that finished first out of the 9. It was done in 49 days of 12/12. It has an amazing high and a decent yield for a sativa dominant plant. I'm guessing it will finish even faster from clone. I also found an awesome grapefruit pheno that finished in 56 days. Same soaring high, not quite as potent but a bigger yielder. This one smells and tastes exactly like a grapefruit when vaporized.

Kali Mist, Sour Diesel, Super Silver Haze, and SSSDH are on my to-do list for this year or next.

 

[titoon29]

Sorry to insist, but did you grow the same sativas under HID ? and in which case what was your difference in yields ?

Because in any case if you re talking about heirloom sativas in most cases yield will sucks, it doesn't come from the lamps.
and stretch is mostly a lot more manageable under on HID because of lower W/m2.

Also CFL, neons, have many options regarding the spectrum color that HID do not have.

 

[de145]

Sorry to insist, but did you grow the same sativas under HID ? and in which case what was your difference in yields ?

Because in any case if you re talking about heirloom sativas in most cases yield will sucks, it doesn't come from the lamps.
and stretch is mostly a lot more manageable under on HID because of lower W/m2.

Also CFL, neons, have many options regarding the spectrum color that HID do not have.

I think it's pretty clear that if you have HID and want to grow Sativas you use the HID. If you don't then you have to be more creative.

The landrace Sativas are grown for hash production originally and I've seen pictures of them in their native crops, they look pretty good and dense under those conditions. But yeah, any landrace sativa as far as I know is going to be less dense on average than any sativa that's heavily selected for indoor growing.

 

[Fuzz420]

"Jack" Herer. Ive grown it under cfl's in a couple PC's and now im growing it in my grow box under a 250w hps. She very manageable, but she can get way out of hand if you let her. Yields are always consistent. I can pull her at 10weeks but at 12 weeks she brings it home. Frosty lemony spicey hazey buds, always a crowd pleaser.