bobblehead overtakes

[nameless]

DO THE DAMN THING BOBBLE!

glad your back.
so am i.
good energy to you bro.

 

[bobblehead]

i saw the pics. i was just trying to figure out how you were making it work. i think the ceiling in my rez room is just low enough to make it so i can't get a third row in.

It sounds to me like you need to lower your rows? Is that possible? Angle the pots to squeeze more plants in there?

Looking good bro, nice to see things coming along for you.

Question - what is your reasoning/source behind the "plants can't process more than 5K FC"?

It's science... Lol apparently at the equator at noon the sun produces 10kfc. Scientists long before me came up with the 5kfc being the max usable for photosynthesis. So basically anything more is a waste... So get a light meter... cause you don't want to use less either.

Chloroplasts are chloroplasts no matter what type of plant they're in... They're designed to produce chlorophyl. The 5kfc thing is pretty universal.

DO THE DAMN THING BOBBLE!

glad your back.
so am i.
good energy to you bro.

Welcome back.

 

[DHF]

Gravity rules with blumats as Bobbles has well taken care of cuz.....Constant down pressure and even distribution of tubing just like on any feed manifold is required or air bubbles develop and causes vapor locks that in turn causes the cones to dry out and then runaway juice goes all over the floor or racks/shelves if not dialed down up front to a cling and watched for performance .....

Bobbles...Glad yer head`s back in a good place....Anytime yas need a pep talk , I`m around....I KNOW about the lonely life and wish I`d had somebody ta talk to back in the day , cuz frustration and fatigue takes hold when yas can`t trust nobody but yourself....

Step up....I know you will....

Peace...Freds........

 

[TommyTwoColas]

Doing some reading seemed to confirm my suspicions - that 5K number was out in the field using 300ppms of CO2.

I only asked because I do have a pretty a nice light meter and have found I get my most explosive growth in the 7-8FC range (although as a compromise I try to stay in the 5-7 range for a larger canopy size).

I also supplement with lots of CO2 and run my temps in the mid to high 80s, which may explain why I can get use out of higher light intensity than others.

Sorry if this is mucking up your thread, just thought you may find it interesting - if not let me know and I'll delete it.

 

[greenmatter]

i don't think i could get a new top row low enough even if i moved present top row down

the blumat system works kick ass, but i had to put the rez shelf under a soffit, which cost me about 8"-10" of drop (of course i was staring right at the damn soffit when i was planning everything and i fucking forgot it was there). that 8"-10" makes the math for the top row just fuzzy enough that i don't know for sure if it would work.

the top row was not really part of the plan so everything i needed to work does work, but the option would be nice .......... too bad i shot myself in the ass.

live and learn right?

 

[bobblehead]

Doing some reading seemed to confirm my suspicions - that 5K number was out in the field using 300ppms of CO2.

I only asked because I do have a pretty a nice light meter and have found I get my most explosive growth in the 7-8FC range (although as a compromise I try to stay in the 5-7 range for a larger canopy size).

I also supplement with lots of CO2 and run my temps in the mid to high 80s, which may explain why I can get use out of higher light intensity than others.

Sorry if this is mucking up your thread, just thought you may find it interesting - if not let me know and I'll delete it.

Well damn... Sounds like a good observation. Your post is the reason i got a light meter in the first place. How else can i accurately compare light measurements with other growers? . Don't delete anything... The only peeps allowed to do that in my thread are me and HGO when i'm violating the Tou... lol

i don't think i could get a new top row low enough even if i moved present top row down

the blumat system works kick ass, but i had to put the rez shelf under a soffit, which cost me about 8"-10" of drop (of course i was staring right at the damn soffit when i was planning everything and i fucking forgot it was there). that 8"-10" makes the math for the top row just fuzzy enough that i don't know for sure if it would work.

the top row was not really part of the plan so everything i needed to work does work, but the option would be nice .......... too bad i shot myself in the ass.

live and learn right?

So it sounds like you need to tear down and rebuild?

 

[greenmatter]

..... and i mean that with the utmost respect bobble

what i need to do is stop smoking when i am in the planning stage. to tell the truth the top row would be one of those things that would tempt me to push the limits on my numbers ......... not a good idea to give a two year old a razor blade to play with if you know what i'm sayin'.

sometimes i need to shoot myself in the ass because i lack the adult supervision that i probably should have ........ evens things out

 

[bobblehead]

So every week I'm trying to make some improvements... No more spending days at a time busting my ass... I think about what needs to be done, and try my best to do it right the first time. I've made enough mistakes by now to have a good idea of what works and what doesn't... lol

So remember that hole I cut in the floor a while back? Well I needed to add an intake to my lung room now that it's getting warm outside... I'm pumping all the air through a HEPA furnace filter to catch the mold spores... and it's on a cooling controller b/c overnight it got way too cold... Welcome to Michigan.

over the winter I found that the best way to control temperature is on the intake... b/c the air in the room is already being sucked out, right? My intake and exhaust are equal sized 435cfm fans... So I created an intake room containing the 24k btu AC in the lung room. More intake boxes with HEPA furnace filters... the dehuey controller is in there too. I think I'm going to hang a heat exchanger in there too... cause it's gonna get hot.

 

[bobblehead]

Sour Amnesia @ 9 weeks

 

[RespectGreen]

Nice to see everything coming together... Isn't that place next to a laake? Let's run it, ur single n' out the game I'll gladly come help you get the hunnies! Gotta love summer, if only it'd get a tad warmer.

 

[Bonzo]

oh ive got questions! gonna figure out a way to show you a floor plan of my space....tryin to figure out how my intake/exaust is gonna finally work...may need temp contollers of some sort as well...where do you get the hepa filters and how much are they? sour amnesia looks awesome!

 

[bobblehead]

Nice to see everything coming together... Isn't that place next to a laake? Let's run it, ur single n' out the game I'll gladly come help you get the hunnies! Gotta love summer, if only it'd get a tad warmer.

lol... We'd have to get a hotel or something... No crazy bitches at the grow house. I sleep in the kitchen anyway. I was actually thinking about spending some time on Lake Huron this summer... I'm back in the gym too bro.
I'll hit you up later...

oh ive got questions! gonna figure out a way to show you a floor plan of my space....tryin to figure out how my intake/exaust is gonna finally work...may need temp contollers of some sort as well...where do you get the hepa filters and how much are they? sour amnesia looks awesome!

The air filters are at Home DePot... I forgot the isle name, but it's full of furnace filters. Mine are level 7, and they go all the way up to 10. All I did was cut the side off a rubbermaid, and tape the filter on... attach ducting, a humidifier and voila!

That's not even my keeper Sour Amnesia...

 

[RM - aquagrower]

Whew... I made it thru all 55 pages.

Found this thread yesterday and made it a mission to get thru it. I'm thru the design phase and deep into equipment aquisition on my first vert grow. (gonna do a cascading bio-bucket/RDWC hybred system in a 78"x78" tent lit by 3 stacked 600 lumateks (and double it up with a flip if we ever get MMJ)).

Props to all that have contrubited!

 

[growyourboat]

Nice grow man....I like your style. +rep

 

[5th]

Sour looks sick bro. Still killing it I see. Good to see some shit don't change.

 

[bobblehead]

Whew... I made it thru all 55 pages.

Found this thread yesterday and made it a mission to get thru it. I'm thru the design phase and deep into equipment aquisition on my first vert grow. (gonna do a cascading bio-bucket/RDWC hybred system in a 78"x78" tent lit by 3 stacked 600 lumateks (and double it up with a flip if we ever get MMJ)).

Props to all that have contrubited!

Thanks for taking the time to read all 55 pages. I know it's a long thread, but I try to share as much information as possible.

I have 2 pieces of advise for you however... 1. Skip the cascading RDWC and go with coco/perlite in smart pots with blumats... It's bulletproof. If you have even 1 total crop failure in your RDWC, you've completely eliminated any gains you would have made over coco. 2. Why wait until you get MMJ to flip the lights between 2 rooms? If you're already illegal, what's the difference? Just my $0.02.

Nice grow man....I like your style. +rep

Thanks and welcome aboard... Stick around, cause I've already sorted out most of my issues... The show is about to get good.

Sour looks sick bro. Still killing it I see. Good to see some shit don't change.

lol, idk about killing it... but thanks 5th! Wait till you see all of my little Headband soldiers waiting for transplant... There should be some Chem D ready too...

 

[silver hawaiian]

At long last, the Headband!



Do me proud bobble

 

[RM - aquagrower]

Thanks for taking the time to read all 55 pages. I know it's a long thread, but I try to share as much information as possible.

I have 2 pieces of advise for you however... 1. Skip the cascading RDWC and go with coco/perlite in smart pots with blumats... It's bulletproof. If you have even 1 total crop failure in your RDWC, you've completely eliminated any gains you would have made over coco. 2. Why wait until you get MMJ to flip the lights between 2 rooms? If you're already illegal, what's the difference? Just my $0.02.

K+ for the advice, but I've thought about pretty good. There are a few reasons for me to play in the water.

My old aqua system (posted in an old thread named "Aquaponics Rocks" was a RDWC hybred systam and ran like a champ for years on end without so much as a rez change. I run air pumps on top of a water pump as a back up. Already have a chiller, so temps are handled.

Next, I just hate the idea of having to go to the hyrdo store regularly. Then gotta tote shit in, then tote shit out.

Lastly, and most importantly, around here if busted, they weigh the entire plant roots and all. If growing in dirt (or a "dirt like medium") they will give the root ball a mild shake, and toss it on the scale. It don't take too much dirt to go from a 5th degree felony to a 3rd.

On top of all that, crop failure don't scare me. I have a day job that pays the bills, and I ain't never not brought the harvest in.

I used to tell folks back on OG that the biggest mistake that new growers make is that they love the plants too much. We don't grow the plants, we just provide them with an enviorment in which they can thrive. They grow themselves.

I know that in here, that's preaching to the choir.

 

[InjectTruth]

Seriously, I got my house for $45k on 10 yr land contract. I was shopping for other properties, and I found one in the woods on 1 acre for $22k, and another 1 acre property that was nicer for $45k.... All in the same city as my current house.

Hey bobblehead, could you talk a little bit more about land contracts and the tax implications? Would this be a good avenue for someone with cash but no tax history to begin 'getting right'?

 

[DHF]

K+ for the advice, but I've thought about pretty good. There are a few reasons for me to play in the water.

My old aqua system (posted in an old thread named "Aquaponics Rocks" was a RDWC hybred systam and ran like a champ for years on end without so much as a rez change. I run air pumps on top of a water pump as a back up. Already have a chiller, so temps are handled.

Next, I just hate the idea of having to go to the hyrdo store regularly. Then gotta tote shit in, then tote shit out.

Lastly, and most importantly, around here if busted, they weigh the entire plant roots and all. If growing in dirt (or a "dirt like medium") they will give the root ball a mild shake, and toss it on the scale. It don't take too much dirt to go from a 5th degree felony to a 3rd.

On top of all that, crop failure don't scare me. I have a day job that pays the bills, and I ain't never not brought the harvest in.

I used to tell folks back on OG that the biggest mistake that new growers make is that they love the plants too much. We don't grow the plants, we just provide them with an enviorment in which they can thrive. They grow themselves.

I know that in here, that's preaching to the choir.

Environment`s everything RM , and you know this....

Nuthin wrong with bein a Water Dawg if yas got a copy of the rules...Ran 3 setups in well over 20 yrs inside and 2 of em were fast hydro.....Respect...but....

Coco set me free once dialed for hydro growth and swellage and.....

Bobbles has been swayed by my insistence on K.I.S.S movin into automated feed and then blumat`s after all the kinks have been worked out of em along with upgrades...so....

Welcome and come start a thread so we can see yer stuff.....

We try ta keep folks informed down here as to how ta do it right....but....folks opinions vary....

Maybe they`ll step up and take more notice when he gets all his ducks in a row and starts pumpin out the gpw`s perpetually like he knows how to , and I know he will...anyways.....

Peace...DHF........