To Vaccinate, or not to Vaccinate....?

[harold]

The symptoms of autism tend to become noticeable at around the time vaccinations are given-- the symptoms being differences in the mental/emotional development compared to "normal" children. This doesn't mean the jabs are the cause. The differences are not noticeable in the children until they develop to a certain stage and coincidentally they get the jabs somewhere around that time. Correlation does not equal causation--ever hear the one about cannabis causing schizophrenia.
Parents don't want to accept that sadly-to be blunt shit happens, its a cruel world, nobody ever promised everyone a "perfect" baby, people don't want to accept that it is just chance, or genetics or pure dumb luck that the baby they thought was "perfect" in earlier stages of development, now has this "defect", so they find a way to make it into something that was done to them.
I found that my cannabis plants tended to show their sex at around the time I put them into bigger pots--did the bigger pots cause them to express the sex, or was it just a coincidence of timing and development.

and i guess mercury in massive amounts is totally benign to a toddlers brain? im talking about an instant change in the childs behaviour, the babys starting to talk and trying to express itself, with that sparkle of life in its eye... bang! it gets hit with a toxic cocktail of all sorts of nasty chemicals that dont belong in a undeveloped body, instantly the childs not the same anymore, it crys all the time, it doesnt want to be put down, its startled easily, it becomes allergic to new things, the child is quite miserable.

children with austism tend to lack a certain chemical that detoxifys heavy metals, when heavy metals are found in the hair this is a good sign, it means the body is shifting them out of the body, you wont tend to find this with autistic children, the brain is holding on to it instead. But a massive dose will obviously be toxic to anyone, its when they're given an onslaught of several vaccines in one sitting... nobody was designed for that.

 

[HempKat]

The symptoms of autism tend to become noticeable at around the time vaccinations are given-- the symptoms being differences in the mental/emotional development compared to "normal" children. This doesn't mean the jabs are the cause. The differences are not noticeable in the children until they develop to a certain stage and coincidentally they get the jabs somewhere around that time. Correlation does not equal causation--ever hear the one about cannabis causing schizophrenia.
Parents don't want to accept that sadly-to be blunt shit happens, its a cruel world, nobody ever promised everyone a "perfect" baby, people don't want to accept that it is just chance, or genetics or pure dumb luck that the baby they thought was "perfect" in earlier stages of development, now has this "defect", so they find a way to make it into something that was done to them.
I found that my cannabis plants tended to show their sex at around the time I put them into bigger pots--did the bigger pots cause them to express the sex, or was it just a coincidence of timing and development.

I agree that the theory that autism comes from vaccines is kind of shakey but to say it's just random luck of the draw seems just as shakey because up until relatively recently autism was a somewhat rare thing and now-a-days it's fairly prevelent. So if not vaccines it's got to be something else in most babies' environments. Such as heavily processed foods.

 

[GET MO]

thats y ive decided to vaccinate, but to spread them out... and no damn flu shot.

 

[TripleDraw27]

Only been vaccinated when i was a little guy, all the standard stuff. Since 15, not one shot, not one sickness besides Galstones last yr.

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Only been vaccinated when i was a little guy, all the standard stuff. Since 15, not one shot, not one sickness besides Galstones last yr.

The most common surgery done in America is removal of the gall bladder. Its costly for some insurence, it leaves you with future digestive problems as it create bowle to lube your intestines, and most of all it is the biggest scam in medicine!

Why? Well for the price of epsom salt, pure lemon juice, and virgin olive oil, and a days worth on the toilet you get rid of em over night! Oh and keep your Gall bladder too. Its called a liver flush, and has been around for hundreds of years!

We have been over loading our livers, as the liver is the filter for air, water, and controls every major organ in the body. It takes 90 days for 1 pill to be filter thru the liver, and most ppl take up to 4 a day, plus all the other crap we eat, drink ie sodas, corn surups. Is it not funny that the supream medical field has not disclosed this information, at the least as a option to do it before a surgery since its all natural?

These are the same ppl who control information on vaccines. This medical field is not old at all, most of any technology, or knowledge came from the Nazi era, with all the testing being done on innocent Jews, it was not just bout massacering millions. Even the technology in warfare was supream of that time, and since as the aircraft sported BMW, engines, and England spoted Bentley engines, as America was still babies in the air.

Operation Paper Clip is public information now, and all it basically says, is that America had secretly taken all Drs of the Nazi's and spreading them out across the U.S, and South America. Again if someone chooses not to take vaccines, they put themselves at risk, not the ones who got the vaccines, so it is really not a reason to keep kids out of school, but home schooling is better, as All of us can pick up a school history book, and find so many lies.

Remember to do an annual flush like a oil change, my wife not as lucky she had already done the surgery. I may add that it is the key to loosing weight also as the liver controls the speed of your motabolism, the spped your liver works, is your motabolism.

Heres the link;

http://www.amaluxherbal.com/The_Liver_and Gallbladder cleanse.htm

 

[zymos]

The most common surgery in the US is Cesarian Section.
I'm sure cholecystectomies are in the top 10 though...

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Such as heavily processed foods.

After 2.5 years of NO processed foods... and strictly food by blood type... I can definitely tell, no doubt about it, any time my child eats processed foods.

Sorbates? Bloody Hell! My child acts like all the other children I can't stand to be around. For a few hours... to a few days.

Half of a Kit-Kat bar and she was completely illogical and emotionally unstable for 4 and a half days. Definitely not a treat for her or the parents.

Next to my child.... other kids look like their nutrition is off, just wrong. You know how a plant can look physically different when their elements are out of balance? I call the look "corn syrup kids". Puffy or gaunt.


Stay Safe!

 

[Don Treadonme]

Just say no

 

[anchient]

I'm genuinely amazed that people still feel they need to question vaccines. The benefits clearly far outweigh any risks.

I think like he does, the proof is there. All you have to do is do the the math.

 

[Tela]

Vaccinate!!! I just went through this with my kid. Our healthcare provider used all thermerisol free vaccines. Anyone who wouldn't vaccinate their kids is spouting wookie nonsense disproven around 2007.

 

[burns1n209]

ive got a 13months old and 2 1/2 yr old, both were vaccinated and both are healthy with no ill effects, oldest had a flu shot and everything went well for the yr, but we may be stopping those, to many questions.

 

[HempKat]

Another thing with Flu shots is that what they are, or more precisely what flu they're for is pretty much someone's best guess at the flu strain most likely to be a problem in a given year. So if one gets a flu shot they should understand that they are not protected from all flu because of that shot, just the one it was designed for. Which may or may not apply to you.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

It comes as no surprise to me that the majority votes are for vaccination.

The masses are programmed to believe. It's such a magnificent deception that I really can't blame you all. It's a much warmer and fuzzier place when you choke down the background confusion and just love your government. Destructive to mind and body... but falsely warmer and fuzzier.

Most of you have no truth in your lives.... why would this be any different? Most of you don't actively search for information on any subject... why would this be any different? You go through life repeating what others have told you to say, but you're not aware you're simply regurgitating.... why should this be any different?

Granted... there are probably more people who are 'awake' on these boards than else where. This is my explanation for the poll being approximately 35/65 instead of 10/90. LOL (edit: Should be 1:2 and 1:10)

Stay Safe!

 

[HempKat]

This is my explanation for the poll being approximately 35/65 instead of 10/90.

Or it could be a reflection of members who have kids versus members who don't. Chances are if you don't have kids you're not going to worry about vaccines because one it's not an issue for you and two you probably had vaccines throughout your life and they didn't harm you personally.

 

[skull and roses]

It comes as no surprise to me that the majority votes are for vaccination.

The masses are programmed to believe. It's such a magnificent deception that I really can't blame you all. It's a much warmer and fuzzier place when you choke down the background confusion and just love your government. Destructive to mind and body... but falsely warmer and fuzzier.

Most of you have no truth in your lives.... why would this be any different? Most of you don't actively search for information on any subject... why would this be any different? You go through life repeating what others have told you to say, but you're not aware you're simply regurgitating.... why should this be any different?

Ya right everyone's sleeping!!! For all the anti vaccine people why don't you round up all your kids who aren't vaccinated and go to the countries where they have no vacinnes and large death tolls because of it and then tells us how bad they are. Also read a history book and look at the death tolls of people in this country before vacinnes. The problem is the US is becoming anti science. By and large the science community are good people not some govt conspiracy bullshit.

 

[Green lung]

They can't wait to go back to the "Good ole days" when you had 10 kids and 4 of them died before they were 5 years old.




Paranoia and Ignorance is a dangerous combo.




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[Hydro-Soil]

Ya right everyone's sleeping!!! For all the anti vaccine people why don't you round up all your kids who aren't vaccinated and go to the countries where they have no vacinnes and large death tolls because of it and then tells us how bad they are.

What did I just post about repeating garbage without doing your own research?

The U.S. is "what" ranking in infant mortality? Better check your facts.

Stay Safe!

 

[skull and roses]

What did I just post about repeating garbage without doing your own research?

The U.S. is "what" ranking in infant mortality? Better check your facts.

Stay Safe!

Research??? There is no conflict in the science community. The anti vaccine crowd is a fringe movement. It's pseudoscience just like the crowd that thinks evolution is in question. Seriously just read history.
Just look at something simple like measles. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#section_4

 

[Funion]

@Skull and roses:
I tried to cut and paste a chart that shows SIDS rates around the globe.
Please take a look at the link I provided so you can see the countries that have large death tolls.
Have a great day and thanks for suggesting I just tuck my tail between my legs and run, versus try and make this country/world a better place for ALL living creatures.
Which is my softy attitude : )

http://www.nationmaster.com/red/gra...en-infant-death-syndrome&b_printable=1&v=1022

Mortality Statistics > Sudden infant death syndrome (most recent) by country


DEFINITION: Total for all ages and sexes. Database compiled January 2004. Total of figures for:
• Sudden infant death syndromel> The mortality statistics consist of deaths registered in national vital registration systems, as submitted to the World Health Organisation. Underlying cause of death is listed as coded by the relevant national authority. Death registration coverage and cross-national differences in coding practices, particularly in the use of codes for ill-defined and unknown causes, must be taken into account to validly compare mortality rates for specific causes across countries. Great caution should therefore be taken when doing inter-country comparisons. The "mortality" statistics listed here are therefore best thought of as an indication of the data being recorded by various nations, rather than as an accurate indicator of real causes of death.


***I am editing this because I feel that infant mortality rate would be a better term to research for the sake the sake of the arguement.
Here is a wiki link to recent statistical information on 194 countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Research??? There is no conflict in the science community. The anti vaccine crowd is a fringe movement. It's pseudoscience just like the crowd that thinks evolution is in question. Seriously just read history.
Just look at something simple like measles. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#section_4

(edit: Not that I find Wikipedia a profound reference or anything... but your link does back me up here... not you.)
Umm... slow down and read what's written?

I was pointing out that our infant mortality rate is abysmal... worse than a lot of, so named, "third world" countries.

Measles? In today's day and age of "reason", a danger? Wow... news to me. Used to only be a danger to people without access to information on how to deal with it.... the public dealt with it just fine before fauxccines. In fact... quite a few of the cases in the last few decades have been people that were previously vaccinated.

The mortality rate is also ridiculously low...

Stay Safe!