To Vaccinate, or not to Vaccinate....?

[joejusttyped]

Vaccinations don't necessarily guarantee your child's protection.

Studies show in most outbreak situations in school for example, well over half of the exposed population is vaccinated and not necessarily protected. For example whooping cough is more common in vaccinated children than non vaccinated children.


Its kinda hard to believe vaccines are there for our benefit when we have men like bill gates announcing vaccines will be a key part in reducing the population.


Breastfeed for as long as you can.

 

[GET MO]

Breastfeed for as long as you can.

I'll do my best....

 

[Sam the Caveman]

Oh FFS...
I'd really like some more details on that please.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/teen-abortion-high-school/story?id=10189694

 

[Sam the Caveman]

This is Ian Gromowski 9 days after the hepatitis b vaccination. It caused a serious reaction, which proved fatal.

Ian’s parents set up a website to warn other parents about the harm vaccines can cause.

Visit ‘Ian’s Voice’ here: http://iansvoice.org/default.aspx

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I hate getting shot, and they should not be mandated by the government, but you should get your vaccinations. why are babies getting a hep b vaccine? how many babies get hep b? maybe an allergy test first.

 

[Guest50138]

I am amazed at the amount of peeps that cite mercury as the reason that they are concerned about vaccines yet are quite happy to grow with hydroponic chemicals which are likely to be laden with mercury ? all agricultural fertilizer has heavy metals in it ! we are literally eating that shit, in some industrialized regions you are breathing it in the air..were all doomed ..I remember being shit scared about contracting polio when I was a kid, I gratefully accepted the vaccine..that all from me have yourselves a nice day

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

There are doctors that endorse not using vaccines for a number if reasons ..

I am amazed at the amount of peeps that cite mercury as the reason that they are concerned about vaccines yet are quite happy to grow with hydroponic chemicals which are likely to be laden with mercury ? all agricultural fertilizer has heavy metals in it ! we are literally eating that shit, in some industrialized regions you are breathing it in the air..were all doomed ..I remember being shit scared about contracting polio when I was a kid, I gratefully accepted the vaccine..that all from me have yourselves a nice day

I would be amazed I guess since I don't do that and there is an entire forum dedicated to organics...I just assumed the exact opposite that people worried about it would grow organic..I doubt I am the exception to the rule lotsa folks her grow without bottled nutes.

 

[Hammerhead]

There's going to be a risk I think we all know that.. There's going to be some that die from these vaccines. Having said that more have been protected by getting them.. Knowing who is at risk there lies the problem.. Talk to your Doc do what ever you need to do to be comfortable with what decisions you make.

As far as the School thing. I can only put forth my experience with the subject and we had 2 choices from what the school district told us. We had to get certain ones or we could not enroll our child into there school that's all I have to say about that ..

 

[Green lung]

Yeah great rub hash oil on your kid that will cure measles.







screw these doctors and there fancy smancy education, 100's of years of scientific, biological ,medical knowledge.


I get my medical research from jenny mccarthy and conspiracy websites.




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[Hydro-Soil]

I been doing some research, its comin to the 2 month old stage where the lil one is supposed to have his vaccinations... What do yall think? Yay or Nay with the vaccinations?

Ive heard some believe there are links between autism or sids and vaccinations, at the same time Id feal hella dumb if my kid died of miesels or whooping cough because I didnt vacciinate.

My daughter had ONE shot... for one specific thing after she was born. Half her face swelled up red for almost 2 days and to this day (2.5 years later) she has visible capillaries on her eyelids that she didn't have at birth.

Measles? Not a problem... actually desireable if you're interested in a celeb class complexion. (Your skin will have a lot fewer eruptions the rest of your life)

Mumps? Not a problem... ever hear of mumps or measle parties?

Hell, there's a TON of shit out there they vaccinate for.... that never killed any but the weakest babies and old folks.


Straight up... The culture process is disgusting and unsafe, the base materials they add the 'vaccine' material to is not safe for kids or adults... Why are you injecting your child with it again?

My child has a better immune system than everyone I know, including my wife, myself and my other vaccinated child. We all get coughs... she complains about a sore throat for an afternoon. We all come down with the flu... she has the sniffles for 2 days.

You ask me.... better to learn the homeopathic/naturapathic remedies for the various "ailments" that vaccines are created for.... skip the "modern doctor voodoo".

Stay Safe!

 

[Mr. Bongjangles]

Vaccinations don't necessarily guarantee your child's protection.

Studies show in most outbreak situations in school for example, well over half of the exposed population is vaccinated and not necessarily protected. For example whooping cough is more common in vaccinated children than non vaccinated children.


Its kinda hard to believe vaccines are there for our benefit when we have men like bill gates announcing vaccines will be a key part in reducing the population.


Breastfeed for as long as you can.

Whooping cough is NOT more common in vaccinated children.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-whoopingcough-idUSBRE8320TM20120403

This is what you're misleadingly referring to, and what it actually shows is that between ages 8-12 the instance was higher among vaccinated children during a recent outbreak, demonstrating that this vaccine wears off a bit faster than the cdc thought.

"Among fully immunized kids, there were about 36 cases for every 10,000 children two to seven years old, compared to 245 out of every 10,000 kids aged eight to 12.

"The longer you went from your last vaccine, the greater your risk of disease," Witt told Reuters Health."

And Bill Gates is a fuckin' hero - gonna save an insane amount of lives and has already given away the majority of his wealth. Funny that you believe he admitted to intending to use vaccines for population control at a public conference - dude didn't become the richest man in the world by being insanely stupid, come on LOL. I've seen the video - he clearly just misspoke.

 

[RidgeRebel]

You can fill out a waver form for public school entrance... ...Also I never recieved my vaccines.

Well living in an area where 17% of students have their waivers in, add that to the number of homeschool'd subaru/ridge kids and id say an outbreak of something or another is probably pretty likely. thats something to consider. And not having yours is something to consider... be careful, you put that kid in school around here and he catches the hee bee gee bee's, he really will be the death of you!! mwahahahaha

D'oh!

No, but really... This subject reminds me of South Park season 4 episode 7 "Chef Goes Nanners" for some reason...

 

[Funion]

Bless all babies vaccine damaged or not.


The litmus test is this.

When has the us government ever done anything for the greater good of the people that did not benefit big business primarily?
When has a pharm company ever acted in the people's best interest?
Have you not been shown time and time again the true colors of how the machine works?!
I would beg you to reconsider vaccinating.

What we tell everyone is that our children are on a delayed schedule.

Citizen rights are being removed state by state where religious and philosophical exemptions are being eroded. Check your state... to see where the closest congregation of Christian scientists are!

Vaccinations are like politics and religion.
You cannot really convince anyone, just show them both sides of the story and hope they make the correct decision.
The best place to get a critical look at the politics of vaccinations is the national vaccine information center. I highly encourage taking a look.

The only good news is that some of the vaccine damaged children and their environmentally identical cousins at the other end of the age spectrum, seniors with dementia can be treated with heavy metal chelation and dietary changes.
Oil pulling, coconut oil, and Chinese parsley are 3 things (that immediately come to mind) that either feed the nervous system
or assist in heavy metal removal.
Take a look at earthclinic.com regarding Alzheimer's, dementia, and vaccines.

On a side note, how did we do it for millions of years?
Survival of the fittest.
What happens when the natural checks and balance of the system get stimied by the hubris of one of its more evolved species? To try and improve on natures system is obviously counter productive.

Enjoy your powers of logic and reason and allow THEM to keep you along the fittest.

ps vitamin d3 rocks!

 

[HempKat]

On a side note, how did we do it for millions of years?
Survival of the fittest.

Well first off we haven't been around millions of years so we've done nothing for millions of years. For the time we have been around though, yes survival of the fittest. Which isn't necessarily efficient and goes a long way towards explaining why population growth took from the beginning of man until 1960 to reach approximately 3 billion. However after the widespread use of vaccines we've seen that population more then double in only 50 years.

What happens when the natural checks and balance of the system get stimied by the hubris of one of its more evolved species? To try and improve on natures system is obviously counter productive.

Just look around you. Overpopulation, dwindling resources, climate change, drug resistent viruses, etc.

I'm not saying vaccinations are necessarily good or bad but clearly they've helped to strip nature of some of it's natural ability to control population. Of course nature is fighting back and that's also why we have drug resistent viruses. In our arrogance I think we neglected to consider that people and animals are not the only things capable of evolving.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Bless all babies vaccine damaged or not.


The litmus test is this.

When has the us government ever done anything for the greater good of the people that did not benefit big business primarily?
When has a pharm company ever acted in the people's best interest?
Have you not been shown time and time again the true colors of how the machine works?!
I would beg you to reconsider vaccinating.

What we tell everyone is that our children are on a delayed schedule.

Citizen rights are being removed state by state where religious and philosophical exemptions are being eroded. Check your state... to see where the closest congregation of Christian scientists are!

Vaccinations are like politics and religion.
You cannot really convince anyone, just show them both sides of the story and hope they make the correct decision.
The best place to get a critical look at the politics of vaccinations is the national vaccine information center. I highly encourage taking a look.

The only good news is that some of the vaccine damaged children and their environmentally identical cousins at the other end of the age spectrum, seniors with dementia can be treated with heavy metal chelation and dietary changes.
Oil pulling, coconut oil, and Chinese parsley are 3 things (that immediately come to mind) that either feed the nervous system
or assist in heavy metal removal.
Take a look at earthclinic.com regarding Alzheimer's, dementia, and vaccines.

On a side note, how did we do it for millions of years?
Survival of the fittest.
What happens when the natural checks and balance of the system get stimied by the hubris of one of its more evolved species? To try and improve on natures system is obviously counter productive.

Enjoy your powers of logic and reason and allow THEM to keep you along the fittest.

ps vitamin d3 rocks!

Funion-please elaborate on how Wakefield has been "All but vindicated" as you claim in the rep system message you sent.
Survival of the fittest? So we should be leaving disabled children out in the cold night air to die when they are born huh, like we did in history? Stop feeding our elderly relatives once they cant produce for themselves and put the strong but stupid in all positions of power.
Do you know how much money all these new age natural wholemeal wooly hippy dippy bullshit merchants make, selling their books dvds, and touring around giving talks about colloidial silver and mung beans.

 

[elmanito]

Do vaccines help is still the question.Vaccine against the Swine flu was not necessary, against Measles is not working, even children who have the vaccine are caught by the Measles.New diseases are introduced in Uganda thnx to the Polio vaccination programme of the UN.Myself never had vaccines of Smallpox and Pertussis because of the side effect of getting Meningitis which i got just after i was born.Cells of fetus are used in several vaccines.What will happen when your body is contaminated with those strange DNA.

Namaste

 

[whodare]

When the last time you heard of polio?

How about large tuberculosis or measles outbreaks?

And though rare and localized outbreaks can and have happened the rates have certainly gone down with vaccinations. That is fact.

Are there going to be risks, yes of course, but then again breathing, driving, walking in public, drinking, smoking etc are all risk laden activities.

As has been pointed out, population has exploded since the advent of modern medicine and vaccinations...

Life span has risen drastically, outbreaks of many easily transmissible deadly illnesses have been drastically reduced.

But fear of science is prevalent in our society, just like the masters would like...

The one thing that will continue to offer the answers we seek in health, energy, space and so on is science...

Stop reading these tin foil fear mongering unscientific websites and go talk to an immunologist, or another real scientis.

 

[Suspect]

You can bet your ass that a cocktail of vaccines, GMO, other toxins will cause all the diseases you're so safe from. It's all about scrambling DNA and making it less likely to store photons hence you become sick and pull yourself to THEIR desk asking for more help..

 

[whodare]

You can bet your ass that a cocktail of vaccines, GMO, other toxins will cause all the diseases you're so safe from. It's all about scrambling DNA and making it less likely to store photons hence you become sick and pull yourself

to THEIR desk asking for more help..

What a bunch of fucking nonsense.

Since when does DNA scrambling cause bacterial or viral infections?

We are talking about vaccines not GMO or environmental toxins.

DNA stores photons? I want what your smoking.


I notice no one here who is against vaccines has posted data quantitatively proving the risk outweighs the benefit, yet I can point you to all the data that says rates of the diseases we vaccinate for being significantly lower since the vaccines were invented.

What happened to smallpox? Vaccines

What happened to polio? Vaccines

What happened to tuberculosis? Vaccines

What happened to gangrene? Vaccines

Why do more babies live past toddler years than before? Vaccines and modern medicine.


So fasten that tin foil on tight your gunna need it...

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Hey whodare, you can go look it up for yourself, but if you want data, how about THE FACT that among the amish incidents of autism are nearly NON EXISTENT...while in the general public it's much different..

also humorous how you give most all the credit to better and longer life to vaccines..nah it couldn't be simply the fact that we are more knowledgeable, and do more preventative measures, must be the vaccines...yeah right. Actually many of those diseases you listed do have outbreaks, they coincide w/ mass vaccinations..go figure. Try "Outbreaks linked to vaccines" I bet you might find a link that disagrees too, then you can come back here and post it up as if it were unquestionable fact and pretend like there aren't 10456 other links that say otherwise..just like bo...lmao..gotta love the internet, I bet I can find a link that says mercury in vaccines is actually really good for you...