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Do commercial grower's you know FLUSH?

Do commercial grower's you know FLUSH?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 41.0%
  • No

    Votes: 18 29.5%
  • Sometimes

    Votes: 11 18.0%
  • Stop with the flush debate already!

    Votes: 7 11.5%

  • Total voters
    61

Hydro-Soil

Active member
Veteran
It's very well possible that you have a finer sense of smell and or taste, Hydro-Soil.
I do find it interesting how the taste of a good wine will change in flavor over a few minutes. My blueberry wine goes from a berry taste that gradually changes to a citrus orange/grapefruit and then leaves a berry aftertaste that's sweeter and more subtle than you can taste at the first.

Most folks can only taste the citrus. *shrug*

Your inability to open your mind to possibilities you don't think exist... is hamstringing your enjoyment and advancement in life.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 

TLoft13

Member
I do find it interesting how the taste of a good wine will change in flavor over a few minutes. My blueberry wine goes from a berry taste that gradually changes to a citrus orange/grapefruit and then leaves a berry aftertaste that's sweeter and more subtle than you can taste at the first.

Most folks can only taste the citrus. *shrug*

Your inability to open your mind to possibilities you don't think exist... is hamstringing your enjoyment and advancement in life.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:

I mean't it honestly, despite my jib at the winetesters. Why shouldn't you be one of the one's with an more accurate taste?!
But i also know "a few" coffeshops in Amsterdam sold basically any strain in stock as whatever is currently sold out- and rarely got called out for it. You're probably the outlier- like the ca. 10% of californian winetesters who really can smell these subtle differences.
 
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DHF

Dewd..........You NAUSEATE me cuz you think you`re special.....and....

Guaranteed you`re JUST as good as you SAY you are so.....that`s why I`m callin bullshit once again....

How can my logic , knowledge , and 30 + yr outdoor and indoor experience compete with your KEEN sense of BULLSHIT you seem to be all about basing your results on smell and taste regardless of actual ppm`s in said plants come end of proper dry and cure.......so.....

Go focus on your kid HS cuz you`re fallin deeper down the rabbit hole and I can help yas......but....

Yas gotta leave the Ego at the door....Trust me....Knowledge is Power....

I`m hereta help folks with no conjecture/hearsay bout the way things are supposed to be according to your lil world and not show the whole spectrum of how things can be , but you`re limiting or rather trying to limit what folks can do with their plants once dialed , and I`m against it 1000%.....Sorry but....

Deal with it....No more from me as well since folks can make their own decisions from false knowledge , hands on experience and doin this.....

Peace...DHF....:ying:......
 
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Hydro-Soil

Active member
Veteran
:laughing:

So funny ;)

I don't lie... I don't make shit up and I USED to have a ppm/tds meter at least 5 years ago.

Nah.. it ain't based on ego. LOL

So funny! :D

:tiphat:
 

oceangrownkush

Well-known member
Veteran
i know of warehouse's that grow "meds" for dispensaries , and there run off is in the thousands come harvest time!!!! YUKKKKKKKKKK

and thats why i dont buy bud from dispensaries except a few that i know have good meds...

which is pretty much 100 percent rare nowadays imo

:joint:

QFT
 
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DHF

:laughing:

So funny ;)

I don't lie... I don't make shit up and I USED to have a ppm/tds meter at least 5 years ago.

Nah.. it ain't based on ego. LOL

So funny! :D

:tiphat:
Then what`s it based on HS ?.....You said you were done and I agreed to disagree with you , but....

That`s as egotistical a statement as I ever heard.....and then.....

You wanna come back and taunt me ?.......You USEDTA have a meter 5 yrs ago , and your organic shit is all that and then some WITHOUT knowin what actual ppm`s are left in your plants come harvey ?....Trust me....

You`re showing your ignorance more and more with each post cuz regardless if you use soil ammendments OR synthetic juice DERIVED from the same shit you`re usin , as stated earlier ....

The plants don`t KNOW what they`re eatin , and synthetic nutes are readily available , cleaner , and assimilated/used waaaay easier than soil ammendments , so .....

Point blank yields from Coco/hydro versus dirt grows are very embarrasing for the dirt/organic folks ....so again...

Guaranteed my shit`s cleaner than yours come end of cycle cuz I KNOW what`s left in my bitches ppm wise before I kill and consume em , and I`ll also have twice to 3 times the amount of product runnin the same setup with coco and or fast hydro...

I triedta bow out gracefully , but you`re full of shit...

Taste the difference between R/O and tapwater grown and or flushed by end of cycle with either just shows your ignorance even further....and ....

.Not havin a clue what ppm`s are in your plants cuz you`re growin organic thinkin you don`t need to cements my decision even further....

PPM`s are ppm`s regardless of where they come from and they ALL needta be dwindled down toward Harvey to let em be all they can be AND swell regardless if they`re from soil ammendments or out of a bottle.....

The last thing I`ll post in this thread regardless if you come back with some more bullshit is this......

Flush/leach/starve dirt grows to make sure all the so-called organic shit`s outta the plants before chop cuz it`s un-processed soil ammendments with no knowledge of how long it takes ta get the plants clean....and then there`s........

ALL other setups from Coco to Fast Hydro ,Yas drop ppm`s till they`re neglible till end of cycle and let your bitches thrive and be all they can be ftw...and finally....

Not an ounce of bullshit in this old ass....Nothin but been there and done that , OR.....I`d keep my fuckin mouth shut...

Fuck with me in PM HS.....Don`t make this a pissin contest cuz I`ll make yas "Cry Uncle" ......Promise........

Peace...DHF.....:ying:.....
 
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poipu79

Actually.. that's called leaching.

Flushing in soil is simply switching to plain water, waterings.... the last few weeks.

CBM: I've run into literally THOUSANDS of tokers that have no distinction between flushed/un-flushed. Hundreds of growers too.
Bottom line is... I can tell, and if I can tell... your body sure doesn't need it. *shrug*
Hell, I can tell when you use tap-water instead of R/O. Can tell if you used tap-water throughout the grow and only flushed with R/O.
Line em up.. I'll sort em out, easy as pie.


Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:

if you can taste the ions in unflushed bud and notaste in flushed bud ...has the flushing metabolized the remaining ions and changed the flavor due to ripening or what ...I just do not understand the process within the plant to reverse uptake of ions

...poipu
 

Shcrews

DO WHO YOU BE
Veteran
I'm done here. People can believe the desensitized populace... or they can take the word of the labs and the rare peeps like myself that are that sensitive.:

wait a minute, is this real, or trolling?


are we to believe that 1 in every 10,000 people can taste the difference between whatever it is you guys are talking about? sorry didnt read the whole thread

IMO flushing is overrated. but maybe i'm not one of those "rare peeps"...
 
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DHF

wait a minute, is this real, or trolling?


are we to believe that 1 in every 10,000 people can taste the difference between whatever it is you guys are talking about? sorry didnt read the whole thread

IMO flushing is overrated. but maybe i'm not one of those "rare peeps"...
Said I was done but Sirtokesalot gave me the first Neg rep I`ve ever gotten for being "passive agressive" cuz I questioned that BULLSHIT taste HS claims he has Shcrews ...but....

What goes around comes around...Karma is as Karma does....

Thanks for the Neg Rep dewd....Catch yas later...

DHF....:ying:......
 

high life 45

Seen your Member?
Veteran
Less is more...DHF...:ying:.....

I see alot of folks with problem free grows never going above 800 ppm, and alot of folks with tip burn and lock out runnning 1000+ppm

The plants don`t KNOW what they`re eatin , and synthetic nutes are readily available , cleaner , and assimilated/used waaaay easier than soil ammendments ,

I like what you have to say dhf.

Its true that plants can only eat chemical nutrients.
When you grow organically the bennies and mycos are your ph balancing chemists.
They break down organic ammenments and nutes into chemicals making them available to the roots.
What nice organisms.
I have flushed in soil and coco before when I was using General Organics. I grew out some amazing herb.

I have grow dank in soil, coco, and H2o.
I never ph'd when growing organically in soil or coco.
I leave that up to the "things" that live in the soil.
I "flush" for maybe two or 5 days max in hydro.



I feel that the curing drying process is much more important than flushing, fading, starving idea as far as smooth clean smoke goes.

But thats just me,:tumbleweed:
 

Newd

Active member
^^^Im really high and that was super intense. :laughing:

No shit.

Damn guys, we are all on the same team.

I am a simple dirt farmer who grows for personal use.

Someone help me out. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I am very confused.

I use LC's soil recipe, but with my own home made compost.

All fruits and veggies, hot sun, oxygen and stirring until I have dirt.

No amendments.

Straight water (well water) from seed to chop.

I water until there is a small drip coming from the bottom of the pots.

I don't run water through my pots before I chop (aside from regular waterings). My plants fan leaves yellow until I decide they are ready to chop.

My weed is "clean" to the wife and I, but am I flushing or not?

Best regards,

Newd
 

RetroGrow

Active member
Veteran
Then what`s it based on HS ?.....You said you were done and I agreed to disagree with you , but....

That`s as egotistical a statement as I ever heard.....and then.....

You wanna come back and taunt me ?.......You USEDTA have a meter 5 yrs ago , and your organic shit is all that and then some WITHOUT knowin what actual ppm`s are left in your plants come harvey ?....Trust me....

You`re showing your ignorance more and more with each post cuz regardless if you use soil ammendments OR synthetic juice DERIVED from the same shit you`re usin , as stated earlier ....

The plants don`t KNOW what they`re eatin , and synthetic nutes are readily available , cleaner , and assimilated/used waaaay easier than soil ammendments , so .....

Point blank yields from Coco/hydro versus dirt grows are very embarrasing for the dirt/organic folks ....so again...

Guaranteed my shit`s cleaner than yours come end of cycle cuz I KNOW what`s left in my bitches ppm wise before I kill and consume em , and I`ll also have twice to 3 times the amount of product runnin the same setup with coco and or fast hydro...

I triedta bow out gracefully , but you`re full of shit...

Taste the difference between R/O and tapwater grown and or flushed by end of cycle with either just shows your ignorance even further....and ....

.Not havin a clue what ppm`s are in your plants cuz you`re growin organic thinkin you don`t need to cements my decision even further....

PPM`s are ppm`s regardless of where they come from and they ALL needta be dwindled down toward Harvey to let em be all they can be AND swell regardless if they`re from soil ammendments or out of a bottle.....

The last thing I`ll post in this thread regardless if you come back with some more bullshit is this......

Flush/leach/starve dirt grows to make sure all the so-called organic shit`s outta the plants before chop cuz it`s un-processed soil ammendments with no knowledge of how long it takes ta get the plants clean....and then there`s........

ALL other setups from Coco to Fast Hydro ,Yas drop ppm`s till they`re neglible till end of cycle and let your bitches thrive and be all they can be ftw...and finally....

Not an ounce of bullshit in this old ass....Nothin but been there and done that , OR.....I`d keep my fuckin mouth shut...

Fuck with me in PM HS.....Don`t make this a pissin contest cuz I`ll make yas "Cry Uncle" ......Promise........

Peace...DHF.....:ying:.....

My thoughts exactly.
HS is a legend in his own mind, which is miniscule compared to his ego.
 

serious6

Member
all the commercial growers i know in BC do a 3x pot container flush then run 2 weeks of pH'ed water only. this is for 10 - 25 light flip flops. bigger are O.C. and wise to stay away from
 

serious6

Member
i think having read this whole thread that it comes down to how you grow, how big your plants are and who your growing for.

when i grow indoor, in soilless, i have always flushed like below to rid the plant of the soil nutrients, salts and additives, then 2 weeks of pH'ed water only to utilize the STORED chemicals IN the plant. RO water by the way is 7.0 pH and i thus use pH down when using it.

i do this to get a smooth burning marijuana bud that leaves no black ashe and eliminates coughing or that dreaded after taste.
i have grown commercially and for medical reasons and always do it thus.

one thing that baffles me, is that my outdoor grows using the same method seem to burn clean as well. the roots go deeper and still i get the clean burning ashe which makes me wonder if it is something genetic when you grow seedless bud.

has anyone noticed this? compared to seeded bud? outdoor i use organic nutrients and humic acid as well as molasses and have taken 15 pounds dry weight off of some of my nepals, cambodians and cherrybombs; all sativa or sativa DOMS.

your thoughts?
 

TLoft13

Member
wait a minute, is this real, or trolling?


are we to believe that 1 in every 10,000 people can taste the difference between whatever it is you guys are talking about? sorry didnt read the whole thread

IMO flushing is overrated. but maybe i'm not one of those "rare peeps"...
I know of two test were proffesionell winetesters had to do "real" blindtests. Basically around 10% were all that what you expected of them, the 90% basically weren't able to discern between a bottle of 5 dollar and a bottle of 500 dollar wine. This out of a group of people who are probably already preselected for better taste.
I think it entirely possibly that he is one of them. It's really hard to qualify and communicate such things, you know?
Like with the Eskimos and their many words for snow, or the few people on earth who can see an additional colour. They went unnoticed for a LOOOOONG time.
 

Hydro-Soil

Active member
Veteran
I know of two test were proffesionell winetesters had to do "real" blindtests. Basically around 10% were all that what you expected of them, the 90% basically weren't able to discern between a bottle of 5 dollar and a bottle of 500 dollar wine. This out of a group of people who are probably already preselected for better taste.
I think it entirely possibly that he is one of them. It's really hard to qualify and communicate such things, you know?
Like with the Eskimos and their many words for snow, or the few people on earth who can see an additional colour. They went unnoticed for a LOOOOONG time.


Completely forgot that I said I was done with this thread earlier. LOL Never said I was perfect, just don't talk about things I don't know.

Interesting on the wine taster 'testing'... sounds about right when compared to my experiences with folks.

The people who can see additional color? They're called Tetrachromats and my wife is one. :D Color receptors in the eye that also pick up shades of orange. Unbelievable how that can make/break an outfit when you're talking fashion. Subtle color changes you don't notice individually if you're not one... but a big difference when everything you're wearing actually mathes with true colors.

Anyone want to pay the tab? I'll go head to head with random meds and a lab. R/O grown/flushed, R/O grown/non-flushed, Tap-water.... etc. etc. etc. I'll separate them or be damn close.

I have no doubts of my ability.... Do any of you? :D

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:

p.s. Being this sensitive isn't some godly thing or whatnot... it's mostly a curse. When you nearly vomit from the smell of a public laundry, can't walk down the detergent aisle at the supermarket, feel invisible dust on your skin, eyes, tounge and throat... smell *Bad* smells that no one else can... and so on, and so on and so on.... most of the time it really sucks to be me. *shrug*
 
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